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Laurina
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Re: AITKEN family, River View, St Ives, Huntingdonshire
« Reply #60 on: Tuesday 19 May 09 21:59 UTC (UK) »

The Kiddle's seem to have had their furniture business in Bridge Street, St Ives going back to the 1841 census

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Re: AITKEN family, River View, St Ives, Huntingdonshire
« Reply #61 on: Wednesday 20 May 09 18:28 UTC (UK) »

My second message! The India Offce Records at the Brirish Library in London says that you read more on Robert Aitken in Who was Who, Volume II page 11
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Re: AITKEN family, River View, St Ives, Huntingdonshire
« Reply #62 on: Wednesday 20 May 09 18:29 UTC (UK) »


 Smiley

Hello

Many grateful thanks to Laurina for her exceptional help with details of the Kiddle Family of St Ives.  Much appreciated!   Grin   Grin   Grin

Can anyone please help and post, when and where it was, that Norah Jean Kiddle married John Ellis Aitken?    Huh

Did the marriage possibly take place in St Ives, or in Bombay, India, the birthplace and workplace of John Ellis Aitken, although he and his younger sister, Marjory Grace Aitken, did at times, live with their grandparents, John and Grace Aitken, in West Linton, Peebles-Shire, Scotland.   Roll Eyes

Cheers

Danchaslyn

 Smiley

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JORGENSON, Hole, Ringerike, Buskurud, Norway
AITKEN,  Scotland, England, India, Island of St Helena, South Africa
LOBB,  India and London
WALSH,  India and England
SHORT,  Yorkshire, England, Island of St Helena
BATEMAN,  Island of St Helena, U.S.A.
YUILL,  U.S.A.
FIRTH,  Yorkshire, Engand
LIPTROT, various counties of England
SMITH,  various counties of England
LYNCH,  Yorkshire, England, Rhodesia and South Africa
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Re: AITKEN family, River View, St Ives, Huntingdonshire
« Reply #63 on: Wednesday 20 May 09 18:33 UTC (UK) »



 Smiley

Hello Weech

Welcome, welcome welcome, not only to RootsChat, but to our search for the Aitkens!   Cheesy

I am absolutely thrilled that you have appeared!   Grin   Grin

For many, many years, my family and I have sought info, some, now deceased even travelling 6 000 miles and more, in the days before the www to visit graveyards, to try to trace relatives.   Shocked

I was at the stage where I was about to go searching for the Lobb Family!   Cool

I will Personal Message you, also, please click on the blue messages at the top of this site.   Wink

Please can you tell me asap how many siblings Caroline and Ellen Lobb had?   Huh

And, their Dad, as Clerk of Works, in Bengal, I think, what did this job involve?   Huh

And where were the Lobbs from in the UK?   Huh

And when did they go to settle in India?   Huh

I know we have so much to exchange, but these questions, I'm burning for answers!  (and all the rest!)........ Roll Eyes

Cheers

Danchaslyn

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Hello again weech, welcome back

Please will you try to answer my questions from my post above...........I'm longing for the answers.

Also, weech, thank you for your post about Robert Aitken,.................

Cheers

Danchaslyn

 Smiley
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AITKEN,  Scotland, England, India, Island of St Helena, South Africa
LOBB,  India and London
WALSH,  India and England
SHORT,  Yorkshire, England, Island of St Helena
BATEMAN,  Island of St Helena, U.S.A.
YUILL,  U.S.A.
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SMITH,  various counties of England
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Re: AITKEN family, River View, St Ives, Huntingdonshire
« Reply #64 on: Wednesday 20 May 09 18:40 UTC (UK) »

My third message! I have obtined a copy of the marriage certificate of Theophils Lobb and Sophoa Virginia Gordon from the India Records office of the British Library. They were married in Rawal Pindee in the North West provinces, that would be near the Khyber Pass, in 1867. They were then living in Peshawar. WIll reply in length by email shortly.
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Re: AITKEN family, River View, St Ives, Huntingdonshire
« Reply #65 on: Wednesday 20 May 09 18:54 UTC (UK) »


Smiley

Hello weech

That's wonderful your third message, now you can receive and send Personal Messages.  What I don't know, if the one that I sent you yesterday, if you will have got it now, or if it was lost, because you hadn't yet posted 3x?  Please let me know if you have it, if not, I'll send it again.   Wink

Also, your India Records Office of the British Library is turning up trumps for you, well done!   Grin   Grin

So, Theolophilis and Sophia's marriage certainly took place in far flung regions of India, and I assume this was because of his Clerk of Works job?   Roll Eyes

So, Sophia was from a Gordon family, I wonder if they were Scottish?   Huh

Can't wait to receive your email...........

Cheers

Danchaslyn

Smiley
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JORGENSON, Hole, Ringerike, Buskurud, Norway
AITKEN,  Scotland, England, India, Island of St Helena, South Africa
LOBB,  India and London
WALSH,  India and England
SHORT,  Yorkshire, England, Island of St Helena
BATEMAN,  Island of St Helena, U.S.A.
YUILL,  U.S.A.
FIRTH,  Yorkshire, Engand
LIPTROT, various counties of England
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Re: AITKEN family, River View, St Ives, Huntingdonshire
« Reply #66 on: Wednesday 20 May 09 19:41 UTC (UK) »

The Kiddle Household in the 1911 Census - You'll have to pay to view it and check all the children belong to the family. I thought Decima was an interesting name - maybe a 10th child but unfortunately I can only find 9! If you paid too view you might see if other children had died.

Robert Kiddle b.1895 is with this family in 1901- don't know where he disappeared too - that makes 10 children


KIDDLE   EDWARD            M   1870                        41      St Ives   
KIDDLE   ELEANOR OSBOURNE      F   1871      40      St Ives
KIDDLE   WINIFRED OSBOURNE    F   1894      17      St Ives
KIDDLE   CHARLES EDWARD         M    1897      14      St Ives   
KIDDLE   HAROLD VINCENT         M   1899      12      St Ives   
KIDDLE    NORAH              F     1900                     11       St Ives
KIDDLE   GEORGE            M   1902        9      St Ives
KIDDLE   GEOFFREY WHITTNALL   M   1904         7      St Ives   
KIDDLE   ENA                                F   1907          4      St Ives   
KIDDLE   JOHN EDWARD         M   1909        2      St Ives
KIDDLE   DECIMA            F   1911        3 Months   St Ives

Opps I didn't line them up very well, sorry.

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Re: AITKEN family, River View, St Ives, Huntingdonshire
« Reply #67 on: Wednesday 20 May 09 20:49 UTC (UK) »

Check out the phone books . . . I've looked at a few years

R Kiddle and Son are in the 1911 Phone book - Furnisher removals St Ives

Still there in 1923 - R Kiddle & Son - Removal, Haulage Contractors - St Ives

Still there in 1932 - Removals

Still there in 1946 - Removals

There in 1957-1975 - Furniture, Removal & Storage at Bridge Street, St Ives
Also Kiddle's Coaches - Luxury Coach Hire - 10 East Street, St Ives

1975 Kiddle's Taxi's 10 East Street + several Kiddle private numbers in area

1984 All still there

Geoffrey W Kiddle appears in the phone book between 1951-1978

Laurina


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Re: AITKEN family, River View, St Ives, Huntingdonshire
« Reply #68 on: Wednesday 20 May 09 22:03 UTC (UK) »



SGT ROBERT KIDDLE

Sergeant 952, 1/7th (City of London Battalion, London Regiment.

Killed in action, 25 September, 1915, age 20.  Born, resident, enlisted St Ives.  Son of Edward and Eleanor o. Kiddle, River View, St Ives, formerly 44, 5th Battalion, Bedford T.F. Commemorated on the Loos Memorial, Pa de Calais, France


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LOBB,  India and London
WALSH,  India and England
SHORT,  Yorkshire, England, Island of St Helena
BATEMAN,  Island of St Helena, U.S.A.
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Re: AITKEN family, River View, St Ives, Huntingdonshire
« Reply #69 on: Wednesday 20 May 09 22:07 UTC (UK) »

That's brilliant, atleast you've found River View - I've been through all the 1901 Census and can't find this house. Bridge Street, where the Kiddle's had their business leads up to the river, but I wouldn't have thought you could view it from that property.

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Re: AITKEN family, River View, St Ives, Huntingdonshire
« Reply #70 on: Wednesday 20 May 09 22:16 UTC (UK) »



Hi Laurina

Yes, hi and thanks for both your previous posts.........so hooping that when you return to St Ives in the autumn that you will be able to find River View!!!    Roll Eyes

At least I know now that it wasn't a house that John Ellis Aitken bought, it was definitely a Kiddle house!   Wink

With regard to Decima, yes,  what an unusual name and I had such a  Grin  as I imagine its something like short for Decimal,  i.e.  10!!!!!  Grin   Grin   Grin

Cheers
Danchaslyn

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JORGENSON, Hole, Ringerike, Buskurud, Norway
AITKEN,  Scotland, England, India, Island of St Helena, South Africa
LOBB,  India and London
WALSH,  India and England
SHORT,  Yorkshire, England, Island of St Helena
BATEMAN,  Island of St Helena, U.S.A.
YUILL,  U.S.A.
FIRTH,  Yorkshire, Engand
LIPTROT, various counties of England
SMITH,  various counties of England
LYNCH,  Yorkshire, England, Rhodesia and South Africa
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Re: AITKEN family, River View, St Ives, Huntingdonshire
« Reply #71 on: Wednesday 20 May 09 22:28 UTC (UK) »


 Smiley

Hello All

Please check out:

  http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,370853.msg2453724.html#msg2452724

Cheers

Danchaslyn

Edited by Danchaslyn, thanks to Carol's advice, hope this link works now?

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JORGENSON, Hole, Ringerike, Buskurud, Norway
AITKEN,  Scotland, England, India, Island of St Helena, South Africa
LOBB,  India and London
WALSH,  India and England
SHORT,  Yorkshire, England, Island of St Helena
BATEMAN,  Island of St Helena, U.S.A.
YUILL,  U.S.A.
FIRTH,  Yorkshire, Engand
LIPTROT, various counties of England
SMITH,  various counties of England
LYNCH,  Yorkshire, England, Rhodesia and South Africa
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Re: AITKEN family, River View, St Ives, Huntingdonshire
« Reply #72 on: Wednesday 20 May 09 22:40 UTC (UK) »


The link doesn't seem to work- perhaps you could re-check and post link.
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Re: AITKEN family, River View, St Ives, Huntingdonshire
« Reply #73 on: Thursday 21 May 09 09:46 UTC (UK) »



Hello Aghadowey

Oh, third time trying to reply!!!!  Such pc battery problems this morning, and each time, I finished my reply and tried adding some smileys, whole message has disappeared!  No more smileys!!

Anyway, so sorry, a typo occured in the link, of course, 'ondex', should be index!

I originally erroneously started the thread on the England, Cornwall Board, as I thought that the relevant St Ives, was in Cornwall, and not the St Ives, in Doushire, Huntingdonshire.

Krisesjoint, the Moderator for Cornwall, very kindly moved this thread to 'General Completed Requests', I'm not sure if that is still in Cornwall, or in a general area?

It would be great if if could be linked to this thread in some way?

Cheers

Danchaslyn
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JORGENSON, Hole, Ringerike, Buskurud, Norway
AITKEN,  Scotland, England, India, Island of St Helena, South Africa
LOBB,  India and London
WALSH,  India and England
SHORT,  Yorkshire, England, Island of St Helena
BATEMAN,  Island of St Helena, U.S.A.
YUILL,  U.S.A.
FIRTH,  Yorkshire, Engand
LIPTROT, various counties of England
SMITH,  various counties of England
LYNCH,  Yorkshire, England, Rhodesia and South Africa
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Re: AITKEN family, River View, St Ives, Huntingdonshire
« Reply #74 on: Thursday 21 May 09 09:56 UTC (UK) »



Hello All

Have a burning curiosity to know exactly how fellow RootsChat Member 'weech' and myself are related, however distantly?!

I'm aware there are relationship calculators on the www, but I'm unable to download any due to ultra slow 'dial-up' only internet.

Please would some kind fellow member post the answer?

Myself, I'm the grandchild of maternal, great uncle's, younger brother.

Weech is the grandchild of my great uncle's, sister-in-law.

i.e.  my maternal grandfather, the Rev Thomas Aitken's older brother, Sir Robert Aitken's wife, Lady Caroline Aitken's (nee Lobb, India), younger sister,  Ellen Lobb's, son's offspring, is fellow RootsChat Member, weech.

Huh

Cheers

Danchaslyn

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JORGENSON, Hole, Ringerike, Buskurud, Norway
AITKEN,  Scotland, England, India, Island of St Helena, South Africa
LOBB,  India and London
WALSH,  India and England
SHORT,  Yorkshire, England, Island of St Helena
BATEMAN,  Island of St Helena, U.S.A.
YUILL,  U.S.A.
FIRTH,  Yorkshire, Engand
LIPTROT, various counties of England
SMITH,  various counties of England
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