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Topic: AITKEN family, River View, St Ives, Huntingdonshire (Read 2177 times)
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carol8353
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Mmm does sound as though it was the Kiddle family who came from St Ives.
Births Dec 1899
Norah KIDDLE St. Ives ref 3b page 295
In 1901 the family were at Carlisle Terrace,St Ives,dad Edward was a cabinet maker and upholsterer. Mum was Eleanor and there were 5 kids,Norah being the youngest at that time.
Carol
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Danchaslyn
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Hello Carol8353 .........Carol
Ok, so it looks like we have the family sorted out then from the passenger lists.........also, wish I did know if they married out in India, or in UK, assume, St Ives?
Thank you so much for finding the Norah Kiddle birth in St Ives, Dec, 1899, do you have a day, in Dec? 
Oh goodness, do hope this birth date matches up with the right Norah Aitken in the passenger lists?!!!!!!
Do you know of "Kiddles" in St Ives? And, so sorry to ask, but in 1911 Census, are they possibly at "River View"?
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Danchaslyn
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JORGENSON, Hole, Ringerike, Buskurud, Norway
AITKEN, Scotland, England, India, Island of St Helena, South Africa
LOBB, India and London
WALSH, India and England
SHORT, Yorkshire, England, Island of St Helena
BATEMAN, Island of St Helena, U.S.A.
YUILL, U.S.A.
FIRTH, Yorkshire, Engand
LIPTROT, various counties of England
SMITH, various counties of England
LYNCH, Yorkshire, England, Rhodesia and South Africa
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carol8353
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They are still in St Ives in 1911- but now they have 8 kids 
I cannot see the address-you would need to pay per view to see that.
Norah is now 11
Carol
PS by the way there is no one called Kiddle in St Ives on the 2002 electoral roll
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carol8353
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The Dec 1899,doesn't relate to the exact month of december,but to the quarter ending 31st December...ie any birth during Oct,Nov or Dec.
Carol
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carol8353
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Norah sailed out to Bombay in 1923 on a ship called the MARGHA.
Name: Miss Norah KIDDLE
Date of departure: 26 October 1923
Port of departure: London
Passenger destination port: Bombay, India
and blow me guess what her address was at that time 
Yep River View St Ives Hunts.
Carol
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carol8353
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They also gave that same address when sailing out to Bombay on 25 February 1927 as Mr and Mrs John Ellis Aitken.Strangely enough on the same ship-the Margha.
Also travelling with them was Robert Tennant Aitken.No address by his name.
John was 31 and a banker,Norah 27 and Robert 2 and a splodge,maybe an 8?
He has no job listed.Intended place of future abode - India.
Hope that helps.
Carol
Edited to add that Robert Tennannt above was a child age 2,and the splodge was a crossing out!
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« Last Edit: Monday 13 April 09 07:33 UTC (UK) by carol8353 »
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Danchaslyn
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Hi Carol8353 .................Carol
Wow, that is all so interesting! 
So, no more Kiddles left by 2002 in the area. Oh and thank you for explaining about Norah being born in I suppose the fourth quarter.
8 !!!!!
Perhaps the St Ives, River View address is John Ellis Aitken's but he only got it after the 1911 Census, to keep his family in when they weren't in India?! 
Also, how does little 11 year old Norah Kiddle in 1911, get to meet and marry John Ellis Aitken, a successful banker of Bombay, India?  And, where did they meet and marry??
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JORGENSON, Hole, Ringerike, Buskurud, Norway
AITKEN, Scotland, England, India, Island of St Helena, South Africa
LOBB, India and London
WALSH, India and England
SHORT, Yorkshire, England, Island of St Helena
BATEMAN, Island of St Helena, U.S.A.
YUILL, U.S.A.
FIRTH, Yorkshire, Engand
LIPTROT, various counties of England
SMITH, various counties of England
LYNCH, Yorkshire, England, Rhodesia and South Africa
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Danchaslyn
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Hi Carol8353
My goodness, again, how/why, a single English lady, of only 24, as she was b.1899, sails out alone to Bombay, India?!!!!
And, goodness again!!!! the River View address, do you think the whole Kiddle family could have been there then?
Wonder if she went to meet John Ellis Aitken, as if she had already met him in England, or if she met him in India.
It certainly is looking like they may have married in Bombay? Also, surely in those days, age 24 someone would have been quite old, and still not married, even, if about to be married? 
Just thought of something, I wonder if he was on the same ship in 1923??!!!!
cheers
Danchaslyn
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AITKEN, Scotland, England, India, Island of St Helena, South Africa
LOBB, India and London
WALSH, India and England
SHORT, Yorkshire, England, Island of St Helena
BATEMAN, Island of St Helena, U.S.A.
YUILL, U.S.A.
FIRTH, Yorkshire, Engand
LIPTROT, various counties of England
SMITH, various counties of England
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carol8353
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I really must go to bed soon!!!
NO Aitken is coming up as sailing on that ship in 1923.
Because they are listed alphabetically,you can't tell if she sailed with any other married sister or a girlfriend- maybe she too worked at the bank?
My gran was 24 when she marrried in 1923...on easter Sunday in fact 
And yes they must have married abroad as she sure isn't on any full index between 1923 and 1927.
night night
Carol
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Danchaslyn
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Hi Carol
Somewhere, I have a note that they had a daughter, Elizabeth, b, I think, 1931, as well as Robert Tennant, their son.
So, we know that Norah Kiddle married John Ellis Aitken, sometime between, 1923 - 1927, or at least before 1927, as Robert has been born by then.
Oh, just got your new reply and my partner is saying bedtime, bedtime..........we have family for a barbecue to-morrow, early!!!! 
Thank you so very, very much, what a joy to have everything you've told me.
So, your Gran was married the same age and this weekend!
Thank you for telling me that Norah and John Ellis Aitken married abroad.
Can't wait for Bedfordshireboy to catch up with all this!!
Night night
Danchaslyn
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JORGENSON, Hole, Ringerike, Buskurud, Norway
AITKEN, Scotland, England, India, Island of St Helena, South Africa
LOBB, India and London
WALSH, India and England
SHORT, Yorkshire, England, Island of St Helena
BATEMAN, Island of St Helena, U.S.A.
YUILL, U.S.A.
FIRTH, Yorkshire, Engand
LIPTROT, various counties of England
SMITH, various counties of England
LYNCH, Yorkshire, England, Rhodesia and South Africa
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carol8353
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I have found that Norah and the kids sailed back to Bombay again on 15 October 1930 traveling on the CASTALIA from Liverpool.
Norah Aitken 30 housewife
Robert T Aitken 5
Elizabeth Aitken 5 months
The address given was River View St Ives.
I am assuming that's where her parents lived?
Carol
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Danchaslyn
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Hi Carol8353 ..................Carol
Couldn't resist a quick look before the family arrive this morning!!!
And yipppeeee, some more info, thank you. I suppose it was usual for Colonial wives and their kids to travel back alone to their home countries from time to time?
Think you must be right, that possibly "River view", St Ives is the Kiddle Family home?
I know that John Ellis Aitken's parents eventually returned to the UK for good. When they died, (the father Robert first, followed by quite a few years later, by his wife) their obituaries appeared in the Times of London. 
I'm sure John Ellis and Norah Jean Aitken and their children, must eventually have also returned to the UK for good, so, if only we could find their last passenger shipping list trip from possibly, Bombay, to UK.
And, then, as my family think, that they went on to settle in Scotland somewhere?
We've got the most gorgeous, sunny day for a barbecue here in the Highlands!
Cheers
Danchaslyn
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JORGENSON, Hole, Ringerike, Buskurud, Norway
AITKEN, Scotland, England, India, Island of St Helena, South Africa
LOBB, India and London
WALSH, India and England
SHORT, Yorkshire, England, Island of St Helena
BATEMAN, Island of St Helena, U.S.A.
YUILL, U.S.A.
FIRTH, Yorkshire, Engand
LIPTROT, various counties of England
SMITH, various counties of England
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carol8353
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You're brave (or daft  ) a barbecue at Easter in Scotland
Have a good day.
Carol
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Danchaslyn
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Hi Carol
Must be a bit of both.....................
Can even see the snow further up above us!!!! But, SO warm, out of the coolish breeze, next to a white wall of the house.
Had a brill idea, will ask one of the youngster computer boffins visiting to-day, to please help me post links to you, from my other thread sites on RootsChat. I had a quick read and found the bits about John Ellis Aitken and Fam, on a trip.........also trying still to find the bit about the parents' obituaries.
Hee hee we tried to get a Salmon,...............no, not from the river, but from the nearest supermarket, 12 miles away, as a nice touch on the barbie, but, , they sold out!
Partner gone down the track to meet family and ferry them up as they won't drive their cars on our rough track, or the 5 ml single track, full of potholes public road! 
So, will say 'bye' till later, thanks again
Danchaslyn
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AITKEN, Scotland, England, India, Island of St Helena, South Africa
LOBB, India and London
WALSH, India and England
SHORT, Yorkshire, England, Island of St Helena
BATEMAN, Island of St Helena, U.S.A.
YUILL, U.S.A.
FIRTH, Yorkshire, Engand
LIPTROT, various counties of England
SMITH, various counties of England
LYNCH, Yorkshire, England, Rhodesia and South Africa
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carol8353
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Is this the link you wanted me to see?
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,370337.msg2485619.html#msg2485619
Carol
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