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Topic: AITKEN family, River View, St Ives, Huntingdonshire (Read 2133 times)
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Danchaslyn
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Hello Weech
Please may I prevail upon you to upload that marvelous Relationship Calculator and see if you can post how both yourself and myself are related?  !!!!
And,
how you are related to "baitken"?
and,
how I am related to "Baitken"?
Many thanks
Danchaslyn
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MOE, Norway, Swaziland, and Zululand, South Africa
JORGENSON, Hole, Ringerike, Buskurud, Norway
AITKEN, Scotland, England, India, Island of St Helena, South Africa
LOBB, India and London
WALSH, India and England
SHORT, Yorkshire, England, Island of St Helena
BATEMAN, Island of St Helena, U.S.A.
YUILL, U.S.A.
FIRTH, Yorkshire, Engand
LIPTROT, various counties of England
SMITH, various counties of England
LYNCH, Yorkshire, England, Rhodesia and South Africa
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Danchaslyn
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aghadowey
To clarify:
With the inevitable passing of time, both "Weech" and myself
have far more familial data to hand. With the currently
available facts it is NOT impossible to work our our relationship.
As stated many times previously, myself not having the luxury
of the availability of broadband internet facilities, it's not possible
for me to download and utilise the complex relationsip calculator
that "Weech" has at his disposable.
Hence the question, which I can assure you, was not posed again
through a lapse of my memory, although you deemed it necessary
to point it out, as if it was, and in public, not privately, as per PM.
Secondly, "baitken" a newcomer to RootsChat has an even closer
relationship to myself, than mine to "Weech".
I thank you for your interest and post, but would have appreciated some constructive and positive input, not your putdown.
Cheers
Danchaslyn
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MOE, Norway, Swaziland, and Zululand, South Africa
JORGENSON, Hole, Ringerike, Buskurud, Norway
AITKEN, Scotland, England, India, Island of St Helena, South Africa
LOBB, India and London
WALSH, India and England
SHORT, Yorkshire, England, Island of St Helena
BATEMAN, Island of St Helena, U.S.A.
YUILL, U.S.A.
FIRTH, Yorkshire, Engand
LIPTROT, various counties of England
SMITH, various counties of England
LYNCH, Yorkshire, England, Rhodesia and South Africa
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aghadowey
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I wasn't putting you down but just pointing out that the question of your relationship to weech had already been discussed. If you haven't internet access then the old-fashioned way of figuring out the relationship with pen and paper would work.
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Danchaslyn
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Go for it Gal!
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MOE, Norway, Swaziland, and Zululand, South Africa
JORGENSON, Hole, Ringerike, Buskurud, Norway
AITKEN, Scotland, England, India, Island of St Helena, South Africa
LOBB, India and London
WALSH, India and England
SHORT, Yorkshire, England, Island of St Helena
BATEMAN, Island of St Helena, U.S.A.
YUILL, U.S.A.
FIRTH, Yorkshire, Engand
LIPTROT, various counties of England
SMITH, various counties of England
LYNCH, Yorkshire, England, Rhodesia and South Africa
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weech
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Danchaslyn-As I see it, my father's aunt was Caroline and he is therefore a first cousin of Baitken' father. This would make Baitken and myself second cousins. Your mother's uncle was Robert which would make her also a first cousin of Baitken's father. Similarly, you and Baitken are second cousins. So we are both related as second cousins to Baitken but not to each other. QED! The OED definition of a second cousin is the 'a child of one's parent's first cousin'. Does that make it clearer or have I confused things even more?
Weech
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Danchaslyn
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Hello Weech
I knew I could rely on you to bring crystal clear clarity, where previously it was akin to peering through opaque glass.
Whilst I agree, that both you and I are second cousins to "baitken", I still maintain that you and I, also are cousins, to which degree I do not know, and how many times removed, I do not yet know.
Rest assured, we shall find the answer!
Cheers
Danchaslyn
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MOE, Norway, Swaziland, and Zululand, South Africa
JORGENSON, Hole, Ringerike, Buskurud, Norway
AITKEN, Scotland, England, India, Island of St Helena, South Africa
LOBB, India and London
WALSH, India and England
SHORT, Yorkshire, England, Island of St Helena
BATEMAN, Island of St Helena, U.S.A.
YUILL, U.S.A.
FIRTH, Yorkshire, Engand
LIPTROT, various counties of England
SMITH, various counties of England
LYNCH, Yorkshire, England, Rhodesia and South Africa
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Danchaslyn
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Hello baitken
You have posted in RC, Mid-Lothian, Grace Aitken, nee Tennant, with a small reference to the Kiddle family. As I'm aware that Norah Jean Aitken, nee Kiddle was your maternal grandmother, and there is so much "Kiddle Information" on this thread, I'm hoping you will read this here. 
Also, thank you for confirming you have a sister. I had discovered that she is Elizabeth Aitken and is five years younger than you are.
Also, confirmation from yourself, as I thought, that John Ellis Aitken, was left in the care of his paternal grandparents, and although born in India, 1896, was taken to Scotland, and educated in West Linton, then Edinburgh, whilst living with John and Grace Aitken and his aunt, Elizabeth Aitken.
Was his sister, Margery Grace Aitken, b, India 1898, also brought to Scotland to live with her grandparents, aunt and brother, or was she brought up separately, in India?
Cheers
Danchaslyn
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MOE, Norway, Swaziland, and Zululand, South Africa
JORGENSON, Hole, Ringerike, Buskurud, Norway
AITKEN, Scotland, England, India, Island of St Helena, South Africa
LOBB, India and London
WALSH, India and England
SHORT, Yorkshire, England, Island of St Helena
BATEMAN, Island of St Helena, U.S.A.
YUILL, U.S.A.
FIRTH, Yorkshire, Engand
LIPTROT, various counties of England
SMITH, various counties of England
LYNCH, Yorkshire, England, Rhodesia and South Africa
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Danchaslyn
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Hi Carol8353 My goodness, again, how/why, a single English lady, of only 24, as she was b.1899, sails out alone to Bombay, India? !!!! And, goodness again!!!! the River View address, do you think the whole Kiddle family could have been there then? Wonder if she went to meet John Ellis Aitken, as if she had already met him in England, or if she met him in India.  It certainly is looking like they may have married in Bombay? Also, surely in those days, age 24 someone would have been quite old, and still not married, even, if about to be married?  Just thought of something, I wonder if he was on the same ship in 1923??!!!! cheers Danchaslyn Per courtesy of baitken: JOHN ELLIS AITKEN during WW1 was in the Sappers & Miners, and after the war, he was sent to St Ives, to be demobbed. It was here he met Norah Kiddle, and later, after his return to India, they were married in India. Cheers Danchaslyn [/quote
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MOE, Norway, Swaziland, and Zululand, South Africa
JORGENSON, Hole, Ringerike, Buskurud, Norway
AITKEN, Scotland, England, India, Island of St Helena, South Africa
LOBB, India and London
WALSH, India and England
SHORT, Yorkshire, England, Island of St Helena
BATEMAN, Island of St Helena, U.S.A.
YUILL, U.S.A.
FIRTH, Yorkshire, Engand
LIPTROT, various counties of England
SMITH, various counties of England
LYNCH, Yorkshire, England, Rhodesia and South Africa
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Danchaslyn
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For the above post:
Please see new info, after mention of 'per courtesy of baitken'.........
Experiencing slight techno hitches 
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MOE, Norway, Swaziland, and Zululand, South Africa
JORGENSON, Hole, Ringerike, Buskurud, Norway
AITKEN, Scotland, England, India, Island of St Helena, South Africa
LOBB, India and London
WALSH, India and England
SHORT, Yorkshire, England, Island of St Helena
BATEMAN, Island of St Helena, U.S.A.
YUILL, U.S.A.
FIRTH, Yorkshire, Engand
LIPTROT, various counties of England
SMITH, various counties of England
LYNCH, Yorkshire, England, Rhodesia and South Africa
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Danchaslyn
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Posts: 596
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Per kind courtesy of baitken:
[b]Elizabeth Aitken[b, daughter of John & Grace Aitken, b. 3 Aug, 1865, left West Linton, and the drapers shop, after the death of her mother, Grace, and she, and her father, went to live in Edinburgh.
Margmo1 recalls as a child, shopping with her mother, in the same shop, which was now owned by Mrs Polly MacPherson, and run with her husband, son and sister-in-law.
The Aitkens drapers shop, which was at 9 Deansfoot Road, still stands to-day, and is a bookshop.
Cheers
Danchaslyn
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MOE, Norway, Swaziland, and Zululand, South Africa
JORGENSON, Hole, Ringerike, Buskurud, Norway
AITKEN, Scotland, England, India, Island of St Helena, South Africa
LOBB, India and London
WALSH, India and England
SHORT, Yorkshire, England, Island of St Helena
BATEMAN, Island of St Helena, U.S.A.
YUILL, U.S.A.
FIRTH, Yorkshire, Engand
LIPTROT, various counties of England
SMITH, various counties of England
LYNCH, Yorkshire, England, Rhodesia and South Africa
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