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Topic: DAVEY/DAVY Woolpit early 1700s onward? (Read 1288 times)
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krisesjoint
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Andrew I don't think you are really reading the information I have provided above. Samuel DAVEY and Mary BAKER had more children than the two Davids. They had Reuben, John, probably Thomas as well and possibly more. Both of the sons named David died quite young, as did Thomas. You will need to have a thorough look through the Woolpit, Elmswell and Stowmarket Parish Records.
The first son David was buried Woolpit 10 Feb 1804 (Infant) The second son David was buried in Elmswell 15 Nov 1827 aged 23. The same parish his parents were living in. I do not think he married or had children.
Apart from Reuben b Elmswell, and John unmarried Widowed b Stowmarket Woolpit there are no other Male Davey's or like appearing in the 1851 census listing a POB as Elmswell, Woolpit or Stowmarket. There is however a female Dorothy 29 unmarried b Stowmarket living in Ipswich with a son William. I am not spotting her in 1861 Please disregard Dorothy.......Kris
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Andrew_Webb
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Hi Andrew, Some of the earlier records you mention are listed here http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~pbtyc/Den/Woolpit/Index.html#topI think there must be some more generations to go in here to get back another 100 years. I am not really sure as tracing what you are saying gets us to this Reuben DAVEY born in Elmswell about 1813. 1841 censusHO107/013/7 Folio 15 page 25
Brick Lane ElmswellDOVEY Susan 75 Y (yes born in County) DOVEY John 25 Y Ag Lab DOVEY Reuben 25 Y Ag Lab JERMAN Elizabeth 20 Y I believe that is his future wife in the household  Dec 1/4 1841 Ruben DAVY = Elizabeth GERMAN Stow 12 863 1851 Census they are in Woolpit HO107/1794 Folio 312 Page 7
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WoolpitDAVEY Reuben Head 38 Mar b Elmswell Journeyman Brickmaker DAVEY Elizabeth Wife 30 b Drinkstone DAVEY Jane Dau 8 b Woolpit DAVEY William Son 3 b Woolpit I believe brother John is also in Woolpit unmarried a lodger in the home of Francis PALMER 73 a pauper brickmaker b Stowmarker his wife and grandson and another brickmaker lodger It looks like DAVEY Susan died Sep 1/4 1847 Stow 12 299 DAVEY Susan aged 84 was buried on the 4 Sep 1847 at Woolpit I also notice a 1 year old Samuel DAVEY was buried Woolpit 3 Nov 1846 (There no not appear to be any other Davey's in the parish so I suspect he was Reubens - he would fit nicely between Jane and William) 1861 Census
RG9/1145 Folio 184 Page 15
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WoolpitDAVEY Reuben Head 48 Mar b Elmswell Brickmaker DAVEY Elizabeth Wife 40 Mar b Dringstone (sic) DAVEY William Son 13 b Woolpit DAVEY George Son 8 b Woolpit DAVEY MaryAn Dau 6 b Woolpit Cheers Kris 
what was susans maiden name?
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krisesjoint
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Hi Andrew,
I suspect you were only aware of the 2 Davids as after their births the family move, possibly to Stowmarket and then Elmswell.
Dorothy's son was William Davey. I have no idea what Susan's middle name was if in fact she had one. There it is no middle name listed for Susan at second marriage, 1841 census, death or burial.
You will need to go through the parish records for these parishes to try to find these other baptisms to Samuel and Mary. If you are in Suffolk you may be able to visit the records Office yourself and go through the records. If not you can order the parish records in to your local Latter Day Saints Family History Library worldwide for a small fee to cover postage. A very good system.
Good Luck..............Kris
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krisesjoint
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Hi Andrew,
I have not been able to find a baptism for Samuel. First step is to go through the records for these parishes and see if there are any clues. Full entries often yield further clues. The parish records for Stowmarket and Elmswell may shed some light on how many children Samuel and Mary actually had. The only ones I have been able to prove are
David
David
Reuben
I suspect these were also the children of Samuel and Mary and there may have been others.
John - I would say pretty certain he is a son, as he is in the home in 1841 (although relationships were not listed in the 1841 census.) He also seems to have been a witness at Reubens marriage, adding to the evidence he is probably Reuben's brother. His place of birth is listed as Woolpit, he is a Brickmaker = Susan BARHAM 1844 Bradfield Combust. Son Samuel John 1845 amended to add correct information
Thomas - buried at Elmswell and there do not appear to be others in the parish, so he looks like another child of Samuel and Mary.
Dorothy - She listed her place of birth as Stowmarket in 1851 when she is in Ipswich. She is unwed with a 3 year old son William. She is a dressmaker. In 1841 I suspect she is up in Durham in a tailors employ. I wonder about her, purely because her place of birth is listed as Stowmarket, the same as John's. Dorothy Removed. Wrong assumption as initially had the wrong John.
There may be other girls, married by the time of the 1851 census so I am not seeing them.
Going through the parish records will clarify this.
Cheers Kris
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krisesjoint
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I have only proved 3 of the children were Samuel and Mary's. I suspect the other 3 were. You will need to go through the parish records to prove this.
Dorothy DAVEY was unmarried. Her son was William DAVEY
possibly a late baptism here (or first one died and she had a second William)
William Edward DAVEY was baptised 2 Sep 1851 St Matthews Ipswich mother Dorothy DAVEY
Kris
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Kris,
Well done to you for finding so much valuable information for Andrew 
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Every time I find an ancestor, I have to find two more !
SUFFOLK - Pendle, Stygall, Pipe, Fruer, Bridges, Fisk, Bellamy, Sparham - all with links to Framlingham
DERBY - Bridges and Frost (originally from Framlingham/Parham)
NOTTINGHAM - Lambert and Selby
BERKSHIRE/then Hammersmith/Barnes LND - Fulker
LONDON/MDX - Murray, Clancy, Broker, Hoskins, Marsden, Wilson, Sale
Gt-Gfather Michael Wilson born in Cork, lived Fulham London - arrived Boston USA 1889 alone - what happened next?
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suffolkmawther
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As Kris has explained the next step would be to check the Parish Records, which for all the above mentioned villages and town of Stowmarket, will be at all three branches of the Suffolk Record Office - although if you wish to check on other things in the villages, such as school log books to see if any of the Davey's attended the village schools, you will need to research these at the branch at Bury St Edmunds.
Woolpit and Drinkstone and Elmswell all very close together, within easy walking distance.
You can see the parish churches at www.suffolkchurches.co.uk
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Every time I find an ancestor, I have to find two more !
SUFFOLK - Pendle, Stygall, Pipe, Fruer, Bridges, Fisk, Bellamy, Sparham - all with links to Framlingham
DERBY - Bridges and Frost (originally from Framlingham/Parham)
NOTTINGHAM - Lambert and Selby
BERKSHIRE/then Hammersmith/Barnes LND - Fulker
LONDON/MDX - Murray, Clancy, Broker, Hoskins, Marsden, Wilson, Sale
Gt-Gfather Michael Wilson born in Cork, lived Fulham London - arrived Boston USA 1889 alone - what happened next?
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krisesjoint
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Thank You Pat,
Always fun to revisit Woolpit and Elmswell where my family hail from. 
Andrew you need to start consolidating some of this information into order. I see you are talking about your Davey family on this thread also
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,371450.from1238450249/topicseen.html#msg2462292
Please make sure you link things so that we are not duplicating information on more than one thread. This becomes very frustrating.
These pieces of information you are being given are all very important. Your BMD's all the census records etc are what we call proof of ancestry. They are very important in the tracking of our families. It would be best if you got this all together and then start separate threads on the appropriate boards to try to get bmd's, census records etc for particular people - one at a time, as you need them. Trying to put everything into one thread I am afraid just does not work.
At this stage we have not proved Dorothy to be Reubens sister. It would be best to try to prove this before attempting to track her movements and those of her son.
All the Best............Kris
PS: More very good advice from Pat, Andrew.
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