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'Trish'
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My 3x Great Grandmother was a Maria Elizabeth Weeks born 1805 died 1846 age 41. She is buried with her infant son John Henry Weeks at Baptist Church Wokingham. I believe her parents were John Weeks born 1777 (who died Dec 1846 and is buried next to his daughter at Wokingham Baptist church). John Weeks was married to Rebecca surname unknown born 1782 died 1836 and who also is buried at Baptist church Wokingham. I believe also that John was a Deacon at Above bar Church, Southampton in 1811. John's father was Henry Weeks and his wife Sofia.
I am trying to find the wive's surnames for Henry & John Weeks, and to find more information on this family.
I have been in contact with an Estate agents & Auctioneers who took over the business just after the second world war, which was run by Henry Weeks, James Weeks & James Watts, all my relations they ran Weeks & Watts Estate agents & Auctioneers in Broad Street in Wokingham. Could anyone help with Census reports & the possible surnames of John & Henry Weeks?
I am also hunting a photo of the said Auctioneers Weeks & Watts or maybe an advertisment.
Regards Trish
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Daisypetal
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Hi,
Have you seen these?
Rebecca Maria WATTS
Birth Date: 16 Sep 1832
Christening Place: Bracknell, Warfield, Berkshire
Father's Name: James WATTS
Mother's Name: Maria Elizabeth
Maternal Grandfather's Name: John WEEKS
Maternal Grandmother's Name: Rebecca
Agnes Sophia WATTS
Birth Date: 8 Mar 1836
Christening Place: Wokingham, Berkshire
Father's Name: James WATTS
Mother's Name: Maria Elizabeth
Maternal Grandfather's Name: John WEEKS
Maternal Grandmother's Name: Rebecca
Pallot's Marriage Index has (indexed at Anc... as 1809) but looking at the image I think it looks like 1803,
John WEEKS
Rebecca WINKWORTH
S and Holborn B 1803
I have also found these,
Elizabeth Mary WEEKS
Christening: 03 Jun 1804 Saint Andrew, Holborn, London
Father: John WEEKS
Mother: Rebecca
Henry WEEKS
DOB: 05 Jun 1805
Christening Place: St.Clements Danes, Middlesex
Father's Name: John WEEKS
Mother's Name: Rebecca
Maternal Grandfather's Name: Thomas WINKWORTH
Maternal Grandmother's Name: Elizabeth
James WEEKS
DOB: 16 May 1809
Christening Place: Reading, Berkshire
Father's Name: John WEEKS
Mother's Name: Rebecca
Maternal Grandfather's Name: Thomas WINKWORTH
Maternal Grandmother's Name: Elizabeth
These birthplaces seem to match Henry and James in the censuses 
Regards
Daisy
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'Trish'
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Hi Daisy thanks so much, only one thing I dont understand is
'Pallot's Marriage Index has (indexed at Anc... as 1809) but looking at the image I think it looks like 1803,
John WEEKS
Rebecca WINKWORTH
S and Holborn B 1803'
Ok this is their marriage? What does S and Holburn B 1803 mean?
I didnt know of Elizabeth Mary, but I do have another son John but with no birth date, all I have is St Pancras and that comes from a family diary. Do you know who Henry married all I have is Sophia? Also do you know the parents of John Weeks born 1777? He died in Wokingham Dec 1846 and is buried at The Baptist Church. It seems a great many of the family died in 1846
Maria Elizabeth Weeks died 1846 with her infant son John Henry. (wife of James Watts)
John Weeks Dec 1846 (Father to Maria Elizabeth)
Rebecca Weeks died Nov 1846 (granddaughter of John & Rebecca Weeks), dont know who is her parents?
So to ask so much, but do you have access to Census?
Regards trish
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Daisypetal
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Hi,
About Pallot's Marriage Index for England: 1780 - 1837
"Pallot's Index to Marriages is essential for researchers with London ancestry, as it covers all but two of the 103 parishes in the old City of London. The dates span the time from 1780 to the onset of General Registration in 1837. The more than 1.5 million marriage entries come mainly from London and Middlesex, but also include entries from 2500 parishes in 38 counties outside of London-many not available in other sources. Also included are several records from counties in Wales. With indexing begun in 1813, several of the registers transcribed in Pallot's index no longer exist, having been destroyed or lost in the time since.
The index slips were handwritten on paper, and indexing continued regularly over a period of more than 150 years. Each slip identifies the church or chapel in which the marriage was celebrated, the names of bride and of groom, whether spinster, bachelor, widow or widower and sometimes other detail along with the date of the event.
The original paper slips of the Pallot Index are owned and held at The Institute of Heraldic and Genealogical Studies, Canterbury, England. The Institute may have access to fuller details that may have survived among the original parish records. (www.ihgs.ac.uk) The Institute is a not-for-profit educational organization and researches in the records themselves can be arranged. Please visit their website for additional information about the services they provide."
Ancestry has transcribed and indexed the marriage as 1809 but when I looked at the image (at Ancestry) the date looks more like 1803.
The image shows,
S.AND. HOLBORN ß 1809
I think it could be St Andrews Holborn, the B is written in a different script looking at other entries I think it might be that the marriage was by Banns as the other letter I find is L which I think is marriage by licence.
This could be the birth and death registrations for the Rebecca, grandchild of John and Rebecca,
Birth
Rebecca WEEKS Sep Q 1845 Wokingham 6 284
Death
Rebecca WEEKS Dec Q 1846 Wokingham 6 261
I'm confused about Henry WEEKS and Sofia/Sophia 
It looks like John's son Henry was married to a Sophia but from your first post you say "John's father was Henry Weeks and his wife Sofia. " so are there two pairs of Henry and Sofia/Sophias?
Unless you have any further info findng John WEEKS b.1777 baptism could be very hard, all I know from the 1841 census is that he wasn't born in Berkshire.
I do have access to the censuses and am quite willing to help you further, but it will have to be tomorrow. Unfortunately my 'genealogy time' has nearly run out Life keeps interfering 
Daisy
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Daisypetal
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Hi,
Sorry I couldn't get back to you yesterday.
So to stop myself getting confused let's recap,
John WEEKS born abt 1778, birthplace unknown,
in 1803 at Holborn marries
Rebecca WINKWORTH, born abt 1782, birthplace unknown, parents Thomas WINKWORTH and Elizabeth.
Christenings found for their children,
Elizabeth Mary WEEKS 1804 Holborn
Henry 1805 WEEKS St.Clements Danes, Middlesex
James 1809 WEEKS Reading, Berkshire
I can't find a christening for Maria Elizabeth abt 1805.
1829 Maria Elizabeth WEEKS marries James WATTS in Southampton (member submitted entry on IGI).
1836 Rebecca WEEKS (nee WINKWORTH) dies.
1841 HO7/28/14 f.3 p.1 Wokingham
Market Place
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John WEEKS 63 Shoemaker N
Henry " 36 " N
James " 32 " Y
Sophia " 42 Y
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Samuel GROVES 19 Shoemaker N
Eliza WINKWORTH 27 Milliner Y
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1846 John Weeks died.
Which child would you like me to for first?
Daisy
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Daisypetal
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Hi,
In your first post you say,
"John Weeks was married to Rebecca surname unknown born 1782 died 1836 and who also is buried at Baptist church Wokingham"
so I was going from that
The child Rebecca was in 1846, I think you will need to get her birth cert. to check her parentage unless someone can find a baptism for her.
Sorry, I'm having a busy few days so will have to get back to you tomorrow
Daisy
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'Trish'
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Yes I did say John Weeks who married a Rebecca surname unknown. You were able to obtain her maiden name of Winkworth? But would love to know who John Weeks parents were? As I have Rebecca's. You were able to find their marriage which was great! Please do go from there, would love to take it back a generation or so, whatever comes easier. I am truly grateful for you help, as I have been stuck on this for sometime and was getting tied up with the number of Rebecca's in the family tree!
My Great Grandmother was Agnes Weeks Voysey nee Quick, her mother was Rebecca Maria Watts, her mother was Maria Elizabeth Weeks, and her mother was Rebecca Weeks nee Winkworth. I have been trying to sort the weeks and watts family out, as my 4 x Great Grandfather James Watts (was James Watts who died 4.5.1863) but there are 3 including mine, James Watts & a Frank James Watts (who hasnt appeared on my tree yet, who is buried at Baptist church), my James was part of Weeks & Watts Auctioneers and Estate agents in Wokingham.
A relative went to the baptist church cemetery and found quite a lot of weeks and watts and so we are trying to tie them together which you have with the info you gave me, all except for a Frank James Watts who I presume must be a relative. However, I am trying to prove/disprove a theory that we are descended form Isaac Watts the hymnwriter, as yet I have three Isaac Watts in the tree but none being the famous one. John Weeks was a Deacon at the Above Bar Church in Southampton where Isaac Watts (Hymnwriter) preached, but have come to a stop, so trying to fill out the tree in the vain hope it may lead me to Isaac (Hymnwriter). Isaac never married or had family so it must be from one of Isaac's family that we may or may not be descended!
regards trish
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Daisypetal
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Hi,
I'm sorry but I can't help you trace John WEEKS b.1778 backwards as I have no idea of where he was born  but I will trace his children forward for you
First Henry b.1805, St.Clements Danes, Middlesex
I can't find a marriage for Henry and Sophia, it looks like they are already together by the 1841 census, I also can't find any christenings for any children for them. I think you will need to contact Berkshire record office or Berkshire FHS or hopefully someone local to the area will be able to look them up for you.
1851 HO107/1693 f.470 p.28 Winnersh, Berkshire
Hurst
Liberty Winnersh
Henry WEEKS Head M 45 Grocer & Baker Middlesex P N K
Sophia Wife M 51 " " wife Berks Hurst
1861 RG9/750 f.47 p.12 Wokingham, Berkshire
Broad Street Grocers Shop
Henry WEEKS Head M 56 Grocer Master Middlesex St Clement Danes
Sophia Wife M 63 Berks Sindlesham
1871 RG10/1285 f.51 p.7 Wokingham, Berkshire
Broad Street
Henry WEEKS Head M 65 Retired Grocer Middlesex London
Sophia Wife M 72 Berks Hurst
Mary Ann MAYNARD Servt U 35 General Servt domestic " " Reading
Ellen PERRY Boarder U 30 Milliner " " Hungerford
Death
Sophia WEEKS age: 73 Jun Q 1871 Wokingham 2c 270
Marriage
Henry WEEKS Sep Q 1873 Easthampstead 2c 735
Caroline Elizabeth ROSE with same details.
1881 RG11/1310 f.51 p.8 Wokingham, Berkshire
The Terrace (Terrace Point)
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Henry WEEKS Head M 75 Retired Grocer Middsx London
Caroline E " Wife M 66 Oxon Bix
John " Bro W 81 Retired Bookmaker Devon Totnes
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George C DANIELL Lodger U 73 Retired Preceptor Bristol
Caroline C " Lodger's sister U 66 Tutress Teacher Bristol
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Deaths
Henry WEEKS age: 77 Dec Q 1882 Wokingham 2c 248
Caroline Elizabeth WEEKS age: 72 Mar Q 1887 Easthampstead 2c 280
So right at the end we find another brother John WEEKS abt.1800 Totnes Devon 
Daisy
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Daisypetal
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Hello again
This is the best I can find for John WEEKS abt.1800, Totnes, Devon, and you did mention a son John and St Pancras
1841 HO107/685/12 f.9 p.13 St Pancras, Middlesex
Johnson Street
John WEEKS 40 Scourer? N
Ann " 45 N
Mary FELLOWS 20 Laundress N
Charles MILLER 40 ? N
1851 HO107/1496 f.119 p.52 St Pancras, Middlesex
72 Chalton Street
John WEEKS Head M 52 Scrivener Devon Totnes
Ann Wife M 65 or 68 Laundress Lincoln Penny Bridge
Mary FELLOWS Niece U 38 Laundry Maid Worcestershire Brockham
Caroline " " U 21 " " Monmouthshire
Death
Ann Fellows WEEKS Dec Q 1859 Pancras 1b 62
1861 RG9/109 f.95 p.38 Pancras, London
72 Chalton Street
John WEEKS Head W 60 Laundry Man Devon Bridgetown
Mary FALLOWS Niece U 48 Laundress Worcestershire Genchall?
Mary Ann FREMAN Niece U 17 " Surrey Blackfriars
1871 RG10/221 f.87 p.83 St Pancras, London
72 Chalton St
John WEEKS Lodger W 72 Launderay Man Devon Totnes
Mary FELLOWS Lodger U 54 " Woman Monmouthshire
1881 with his brother in previous post.
Death
John WEEKS age: 83 Jun Q 1883 Wokingham 2c 251
Now if John WEEKS b.1800 Devon is the son of John WEEKS b.1778 then he was born before John WEEKS Snr's marriage to Rebecca WINKWORTH.
In 1861 John WEEKS Jnr gives his birthplace as Bridgetown, Devon. Bridgetown was in Berry Pomeroy township/parish,
http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/BerryPomeroy/
I found this marriage and christening,
John WEEKS
Susanna GREGORY
Marriage: 02 JAN 1799 Berry Pomeroy, Devon
John WEEKS
Christening: 23 JUN 1799 Berry Pomeroy, Devon
Father: John WEEKS
Mother: Susanna
For this to be correct then Susanna WEEKS (nee GREGORY) must have died before the 1803 marriage, but where and when 
Ok enough for today my eyes are starting to cross
Daisy
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'Trish'
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You are amazing, that is fantastic, I cannot believe what you have found out! I was really struggling. If I can return the favour at any point please dont hesitate to contact me.
regards Trish
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Daisypetal
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Oops! I forgot about James 
http://www.brazell.net/genuki/BRK/Easthampstead/index.html
Elizabeth Ann FOSTER
Birth: 22 SEP 1803 Easthamsted, Berkshire
Christening: 14 JUL 1826 London
Father: William FOSTER
Mother: Elizabeth
James WEEKS
Spouse: Elizabeth Ann FOSTER
Marriage: 06 APR 1837 Warfield, Berkshire
Birth
Elizabeth WEEKS Jun Q 1840 Wokingham 6 307
I don't know why James wasn't with Elizabeth in 1841 maybe he was spending the night with his family, or she was visiting friends/family.
1841 HO107/35/2 f.9 p.12 & f.10 p.13 St Lawrence, Berkshire
131 Friar St
Mary ROUND 70 Ind Y
Mary BAGGS 45 Needle woman Y
Elizabeth WEEKS 36 Y
Elizabeth WEEKS 11months Y
Birth
Mary Rounds WEEKS Jun Q 1843 Wokingham 6 284
1851 HO107/1693 f.247 p.25 Wokingham, Berkshire
Broad Street
James WEEKS Head M 41 Auctioneer Berks Reading St Lawrence
Elizabeth A Wife M 46 Berks Bracknell
Elizabeth Daur U 10 Scholar " Wokingham
Mary R Daur U 8 " " " " "
Mary ROUND Cousin W 82 " Reading St Giles
Sophia BAILEY Serv U 18 House Servant Middlesex Uxbridge
1861 RG9/750 f.45 p.8 Wokingham, Berkshire
Broad Street
Auctioneers Office
James WEEKS Head M 51 Auctioneer, Valuer House and Estate,
Fire and Life Insurance, and General Commission Agent Berks Reading
Elizabeth A Wife M 57 Berks Easthampstead
Elizabeth Daur U 20 " Wokingham
Mary R Daur U 17 " " "
Marriage
Elisabeth WEEKS Jun Q 1863 Wokingham 2c 639 (note, spelt with an s in index not z)
John ALDIS
1871 RG10/1285 f.49 p.4 Wokingham, Berkshire
None Such Lane
Hatton? Cottage
James WEEKS Head M 61 Estate Agent & Auctioneer Reading Berks
Elizabeth Ann Wife M 67 Bracknell " "
Mary Round Daur U 27 Wokingham " "
Annie Louisa EDWARDS Serv U 14 Servant Domestic Cambridge Town Surrey
Marriage
Mary Round WEEKS Mar Q 1874 Wokingham 2c 555
Joseph FOSTER
Death
Elizabeth Ann WEEKS age: 71 Dec Q 1874 Wokingham 2c 249
1881 RG11/1310 f.48 p.1 Wokingham, Berkshire
Broad Street
James WEEKS Head W 71 Retired Estate Agent Berks Reading
Maria GROOMBRIDGE Housekeeper U 43 Housekeeper Sussex Horsham
Catherine J PORTER Boarder U 21 Grocers Daur Berks Twifford
Death
James WEEKS age: 78 Dec Q 1887 Wokingham 2c 245
I expect you have already looked at this site, but just in case, you might find James here,
http://www.historicaldirectories.org/hd/
Daisy
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'Trish'
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Thanks so much Daisy, I cannot believe what you have unearthed! I am truly amazed. If you need help at any stage please dont hesitate to ask, I'm in Dorset, although its a bit tricky for me to go to Record office as this is in Dorchester, however if anyone wants photos etc....
regards Trish
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Daisypetal
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Hi,
Thanks for the offer of help
I might take you up on it at a later date as I have a 3x Great Grandfather from Piddletrenthide, Dorset. I'm working on a different part of the family right now but when get round to him I might ask you for some 'local' knowledge
Daisy
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