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peter drylie christina mcpherson
james hynd/elizabeth muir
« on: Sunday 29 March 09 17:08 UTC (UK) »
hi chatters

i am looking for info on james hynd and elizabeth muir.

their daughter euphemia hynd's marriage and children.

this is one of 3 euphemia hynds that i am sorting out.

any help appreciated

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Re: james hynd/elizabeth muir
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 29 March 09 23:56 UTC (UK) »
Hi beans

Would this be Euphemia Hynd born 16th February 1817 in Dalgety?

Do you have anything at all on this family? (just to prevent duplication of effort)

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Re: james hynd/elizabeth muir
« Reply #2 on: Monday 30 March 09 00:04 UTC (UK) »
hi kristy all i have for her she is the daughter of james hynd and elizabeth muir.  i

have had some problems with euphemia hynds in my file i have 2 different ones

connected to the same husband one i was able to eliminate as a kind sole on

roots chat sent me the death cert and she died in scotland.  now the one i am

still looking for immigrated to the usa.  there is another thread on that topic but i

am not sure how far back it is.    yes she was born feb 16th 1817

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Re: james hynd/elizabeth muir
« Reply #3 on: Monday 30 March 09 00:09 UTC (UK) »
I will have a dig and see if I can't link to the other thread.

She didn't marry a Beveridge did she?
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Re: james hynd/elizabeth muir
« Reply #4 on: Monday 30 March 09 00:13 UTC (UK) »
Was this the thread you meant?

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,287692.0.html

and this I suppose

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,285595.0.html
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Re: james hynd/elizabeth muir
« Reply #5 on: Monday 30 March 09 00:15 UTC (UK) »
hi kristy

yes she supposedly married a james beveridge which is where the original

confusion came into it.  the one set of james beveridge and euphemia hynd

lived and died in scotland however someone sent me beveridges and had

them listed as immigrating to the usa.  the death cert i was sent is proof that

they had the wrong james and euphemia and since famillies repeated names

it is extremely difficult to trace and here in the us you need to be a relative to

request a complete copy of birth marriage and death records.  i sent a request

over a year ago for james naturalization records and have never gotten a

response  beansgram
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Re: james hynd/elizabeth muir
« Reply #6 on: Monday 30 March 09 00:17 UTC (UK) »
yes kristy thats the right thread as you can see there was some exstensive help

done on the original problem verifying and eliminating people

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Re: james hynd/elizabeth muir
« Reply #7 on: Monday 30 March 09 00:20 UTC (UK) »
Does that mean that the Marriage in Dumfermline 1844 is of the family that stayed in Scotland?
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Re: james hynd/elizabeth muir
« Reply #8 on: Monday 30 March 09 00:26 UTC (UK) »
kristy the second thread in your above post has the children from both sets of

james and euphemias mixed together i have since then been able to sort the

children to right set of parents buti am still not sure about the immigrated james

wife being euphemia hynd his american relis are positive but have nothing to

verify it.  to the moderator sorry if i am over lapping threads was not sure since

this is a different james and euphemia  yes the 1844 marriage is the couple who

remained in scotland.   and the ones that immigrated had 2 of their children in

scotland  alexander in 1846 and james in 1849/50 then they are on the census for

1860 in mccandless twnshp not to far from where i am beansgram

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Re: james hynd/elizabeth muir
« Reply #9 on: Monday 30 March 09 00:32 UTC (UK) »
I'm glad I managed to work that much out correctly. My head is spinning from rereading those old threads, I got lost somewhere around the Penmans I think. I don't think anyone will object to a new thread on this - since it does turn out to be a different family!

It might be a good idea to lay out clearly what you have now verified as being "your" James and Euphemia's family, maybe starting with the 1920 death and working backwards through census records and then it will be easier to see where there are gaps that might be filled in.

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Re: james hynd/elizabeth muir
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 02 April 09 11:04 UTC (UK) »
Looking at the IGI I can see a submitted entry for Alexander in Aberdour March 1846, and another for James, in Dumfermline October 1847. In both cases parents James Beveridge and Euphemia Hynd.

There is an extracted birth entry 10th October 1847 Dumfermline for James. Is he yours?

The Alexander born 1857 Dalgety I presume will belong to the Other James and Euphemia.

There is no extracted record showing on the IGI for Your Alexander. Did you get his birth details from SP or are you relying on the submitted entry?

Have you viewed the census records for 1851 on SP? There are 7 hits for James Beveridge with second person Euphemia. I am aware that some Fife census records are not in the records so your family might not be there.

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Re: james hynd/elizabeth muir
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 02 April 09 12:54 UTC (UK) »
hi kristy

my james and his euphemia are on the 1851 census with their two sons who

were born in scotland alexander born march 16-1846 and james born in 1850.

they are on the us census for 1860. with their daughter agnes who was born 

in the us.  i guess it is possible that this james is married to a euphemia hynd   

as i have a few in my file born in the right time frame.  i have been unable to

find where they are buried or i would just go to the cemeteryand see if it is in 

the records .  once again i am stuck on this couple.  i am trying to find out if it

really is euphemia hynd daughter of james hynd and elizabeth muir but i dont

know where else to look.  alexanders birth date came from his american relis.
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Re: james hynd/elizabeth muir
« Reply #12 on: Friday 03 April 09 21:21 UTC (UK) »
Hi Beansgram,

This site may be helpful www.seathfamily.co.uk it has OPR births for the parish of Dalgety. It contains births for children of James Hynd and Elizabeth Muir
 
Hynd Catherine,lawful daughter to James Hynd and Elizabeth Muir, in the colliery, was born 14th April 1821

David lawful son to James Hynd and Elizabeth Muir in the colliery was born 29th March 1823

Grizel Hynd,lawful daughter to James Hynd and Betty Muir,Colliery, was born 27th August 1825

 The births are under resources. 
 
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Re: james hynd/elizabeth muir
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 05 April 09 02:13 UTC (UK) »
Hi grada

thank you for the reply and i have those children but i also have Euphemia an

extracted record not submitted Feb 16 1817 and suppose to be married to a

james beveridge but i have not been able to verify that part. 

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