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Hello Forum
I have found that there could be (so far) as many of 15 to 25 burials for my Namesake (Searing) located within the confides of St.Mary the virgin in Cheshunt from data based on the NBI but how would I be able to find plot numbers and/or plan of how St.Mary's church yard is laid out.
would any such information be held within the church records or would it be stored at HERTFORD (HARS) I would be interested to visit the Church and locate any burials associated with me and my family.
With there many many of my relatives who lived and died in Cheshunt I would have thought that a plot within the churchyard may have been used as apposed to scattered locations.
what thoughts please.
Very best regards 
Paul
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Rick
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Hi Paul
The Hertfordshire Family History Society have produced a number of booklets containing Memorial Inscriptions from many Hertfordshire Cemeteries. St Mary's Cheshunt has been transcribed. I do not own this particular volume, but I do own several others and they all contain detailed maps showing the locations of all the graves. I would have thought that it would be well worth purchasing the BS volume in case it is similarly laid out.
http://www.hertsfhs.org.uk/hfphs30.html
http://www.hertsfhs.org.uk/
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psearing
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Thankuou Rick
I have pinged an Email to the sight and await details on how to obtain the books on the inscriptions.
thanks for the reply
Paul
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Rick
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Hi Paul
It seems that if you want to order online then you now have to go to GenFair.
"Ordering Publications
All publications are for sale at the Society's meetings. Publications may be ordered by Mail using the publications order form or by Credit Card using the site operated by GenFair. See below.
For enquiries contact our Booksales Officer at postsales@hertsfhs.org.uk. New publications are appearing all the time. You can place a standing order with our Booksales Officer. "
http://www.genfair.co.uk/
http://www.hertsfhs.org.uk/hfphs6.html
Just a thought, but if your rellies didn't have an MI then they won't be listed in the booklet. You would then probably have to contact HALS to see if they have the burial plot information for the parish.
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,292382.0.html
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psearing
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Thanks Rick
I did email the link you sent me but they have not replied. Could be I was asking in the wrong location.
Thankyou
Paul
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Rick
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Paul
If you want to order online you have to do so via GenFair.
http://www.genfair.co.uk/
To order by post - fill out the online order form, print if off and send to;
Book Sales
C/o 24 Ashurst Road
Barnet, Herts.
EN4 9LF, United Kingdom
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psearing
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Just done a on line order (yep by myself not the wife) using my card
and Britgen have confirmed it, bit of a milestone for me never done any online ordering on my own (big boy now)
Just hope what I have ordered is has the right details
thanks for you help
Paul
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Good for you! Be careful though, once you start ordering online you might get the bug! 
If your rellies aren't showing up in the booklet, then it may be that they didn't have an MI or their MIs were not legible when the MIs were transcribed.
Here's hoping you'll find what you want.
Rick
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psearing
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It would be interesting to see if any rellies are listed
I know that there are many interred in the churchyard find where any plots are would be the icing on the cake for me after many years of searching and re-searching not least I could not have done it without Rootschat.
I had joined findmypast and paid full subscription of £89.95 but very disappointed with the results.
Thank goodness for rootschat
as for getting the bug
I dought it but hey who knows
Paul
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psearing
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OK
Thanks Peter any leads what so ever are helpful
I will indeed be dropping them a Email.
I am plaining to visit over a few day Cheshunt and Hertford(Shire) and able to put together a good productive visit to put meat on the bones after so many years
would be a thrill (oh I am sad) and achievement as well as a personal goal.
many thanks
Paul
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Gutted or what 
I sent for and just got Hertfordshire Monumental inscriptions for the Parish Church of St.Mary the virgin in Cheshunt as I know that many of my late relatives had been interred there
Well
Having checked the said receive book there are NO (apart from a couple by Gerish) monumental inscriptions,
I have in front of me a list of 25 Searing's who I NO know to be buried in the Church yard CIRCA 1800 to when the church yard was closed for burials.
So
Am I missing something or am I just unlucky talk about disappointed so where can I go a phisically trawl the documents that will show the location of a long lost relative?
I can understand if there was only one buried there but 25 come on there must be something hidden away
at this rate I'm going to get a shovel and do-it-yourself DNA test
I'm determin to have reason to carry on.
Very disappointed
Paul 
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Paul
I did intimate that if your ancestors didn't have a MI or if their MIs had weathered to a point where they could not be easily read that they would not appear in the volume. 
Anothe possibility might be that the burial services was held in the church (hence the NBI entries) but they were actually buried elsewhere.
So sorry that you are disappointed.
Rick
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Thanks Rick
I would guess that this would be the case and inscriptions being unreadable but how strange that out of all them listed not one would be visible.
I guess I could ping and Email to the church and ask if they have any information at least for burial plots.
give up
Never!
Paul
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Lady Di
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Oh Paul - how disappointing for you
I was also looking for a headstone that should been in a specific church but it failed to be recorded there. In reading the actual Parish Records at HALS for the burial I found that a burial service was in one church but the actual burial was in another place. (just as Rick suggested for you)
When I found the headstone there were 4 generations buried all together in the one grave. 
My suggestion is to check the Parish Record for burials at HALS, in case there are further details provided, and then have a look at the actual churchyard yourself. You never know what may have been missed when MI's were recorded as quite often more than one family member is in the same grave. Check for the names of in-laws and grandparents etc as well, both at the church and in the MI's.
Of course these always the possibility that they may not have been able to afford a headstone
Good Luck
Di
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