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orkrad
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North Uist ancestry
« on: Monday 30 March 09 03:41 UTC (UK) »
Hi

I have recently learned that one of my ancestors John Mc Phail (born 1845) died in 1899 in Greenock Scotland may have come from North Uist. His parents were Charles Mc Phail and Margaret  Mackay.. I can't find the parents on Scotland's people nor can I find  any record of John in the 1851,61,71,81or 81 Scottish censuses. Can anyone help? Thanks in anticipation.
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Falkyrn
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Re: North Uist ancestry
« Reply #1 on: Monday 30 March 09 13:00 UTC (UK) »
This a possible family from North Uist in 1881

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Margaret MACPHAIL, Age 65, Widow,Crofter, born North Uist

Son
   
Donald  MacPhail ,age 29

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Catherine MACKAY age 24 born North Uist

Also present

Mary MACLEOD age 22 general servant.
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Falkyrn
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Re: North Uist ancestry
« Reply #2 on: Monday 30 March 09 13:01 UTC (UK) »
PS Welcome to Rootschat.
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sancti
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Re: North Uist ancestry
« Reply #3 on: Monday 30 March 09 15:22 UTC (UK) »
From SP

1851 MACPHAIL JOHN Male aged 7 NORTH UIST /INVERNESS
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orkrad
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Re: North Uist ancestry
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 31 March 09 00:31 UTC (UK) »
Thank you Sancti.

Am new to this rootschat stuff so am not sure about exactly how to reply.

Have sent you a personal message. Hope I  am not infringing some protocol!
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orkrad
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Re: North Uist ancestry
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 31 March 09 00:35 UTC (UK) »
Thanks Falkryn.

Will try to follow up this family. are they on the Scotlands people site?
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Re: North Uist ancestry
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 31 March 09 11:16 UTC (UK) »
They should be on the SP site although I searched the 1881 Census Cd's for them.
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Re: North Uist ancestry
« Reply #7 on: Monday 06 April 09 07:05 UTC (UK) »
Why do you think he was born in Uist?

There is 1 record on SP 1841 census for Charles and 2nd person Margaret

1841 MCPHAIL CHARLES Male 29yrs at  PAISLEY HIGH CHURCH /RENFREW
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sancti
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Re: North Uist ancestry
« Reply #8 on: Monday 06 April 09 07:16 UTC (UK) »
Where and when did John marry?

Were his parents still alive at the time?
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Re: North Uist ancestry
« Reply #9 on: Monday 06 April 09 21:41 UTC (UK) »
Simply on the question of why a MacPhail should be born in North Uist, the family was descended from Paul na h'Eile, the man responsible for killing a couple of half brothers with claims to the chieftainship of Clan Donald North, the MacDonalds of Sleat in Skye. There is a settlement in North Uist called Baile MhicPhail.
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orkrad
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Re: North Uist ancestry
« Reply #10 on: Friday 05 June 09 03:32 UTC (UK) »
Thanks to everyone who helped in the search for John MCPHAIL. He still eludes me! He appears to have married an Anne Jane MCKILLOP at Ramoan Ballycastle,  Rathlin, Antrim in 1868. He doesn't appear to be from Rathlin though the name MCFALL is found there. Was there a migration from North Uist to parts of Ireland in the early 1800's? Or  am I still chasing red herrings.?

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Re: North Uist ancestry
« Reply #11 on: Friday 05 June 09 07:58 UTC (UK) »
There is a death record on SP for

1931 MCPHAIL ANN JANE   MCKILLOP Female aged  75 at GREENOCK EAST /RENFREW

If the age is correct it would give a birth year around 1856
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Re: North Uist ancestry
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 20 June 09 22:57 UTC (UK) »
Death of John McPhail on Inverclyde site
he died at 24 Dalrymple street Greenock on the 17th January 1899 aged 54
wife Ann Jane
http://www.inverclyde.gov.uk/GetAsset.aspx?id=fAA1ADcAMwAxAHwAfABGAGEAbABzAGUAfAB8ADAAfAA1
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Re: North Uist ancestry
« Reply #13 on: Monday 22 June 09 02:20 UTC (UK) »
Thanks Elaine.  I already have this death certificate from Scotlands people site. However I  am no closer to  the information as to where he was bornwas born than before.! At the moment it is an unsurmountable brick wall.

Regards   Orkrad
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