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Topic: 1861.. cant find family and 1871 (Read 466 times)
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John Arthur born abt 1821 Whitwell
Eliza Milner " abt 1824 London
John Edward born abt 1845 Barlbor.
Bernard George " " 1851 "
Found the Bernard Geo in Chesterfield in 1871
and possibly John Edwards wife Elizabeth also Chesterfield
John marr in 1866 in Barlbor. to an Elizabeth Goacher born abt 1847.
Picked up John with his parents listed as marr in 1881 Barlbor. Eliza's middle name as Matilda ( easily confused with Milner I guess)
Also have George with his wife and children in 1881
n 1891 Worksop
Hope someone is cleverer than I.
Ta muchly
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AMBLY
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Hi
I thought John Arthur was his fore/middle names too....but the surname is ARTHUR (John ARTHUR being the groom in marriage to Elizabeth GOACHER, Worksop district 1866)
1861: Village - Parish of Barlbro, Derbyshire
RG9 / Piece: 2422 / Folio: 63 / Pg 16
Head: Rebecca STORY 62, widow, Grocer, b Barlborough, Derbyshire
Son-in-law: John ARTHUR 40, married, Grocer, b Whitwell, Derbyshire
Dau: Eliza ARTHUR 37, married, b London
Grandson: Berned George ARTHUR 9, Scholar, b Barlborough, Derbyshire
1861: 41 & 43 Wicker, ShOp Grocers - Brightside Bierlow, Sheffield, Yorkshire
RG9 / Piece: 3494 / Folio: 46 / Pg 1
Head: John DODSON 35, unmarried, Grocer & Tea Dealer, b Sheffield, Yorkshire
Sister: Elizabeth DODSON 55, unmarried, b Sheffield, Yorkshire
Ap. : John E ARTHUR 15, b Barlbro, Derbyshire
Servt: Harriet SMITH 23, unmarried, b Driffield, Yorkshire
(They in a row of shops - after them comes: Butchers, Confectionery, Iron Mongers, Plumber, Brass Foundry)
Cheers
AMBLY
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1871: 50 New Square, Star & Garter, Chesterfield (the Star & Garter being the name of the establishment/inn)
Household Schedule 42,
RG10 / Piece: 3611 / Folio: 86 / Pg 9
Son: Bernard Geo. ARTHUR 19, Unm, Publican's son, b Chesterfield, Derbyshire
Serv: Sarah WHITE 17, unm, General Servt, b Whittington, Derbyshire
Serv: Elizabeth BAKER 14, unm, General Servt, b Whittington, Derbyshire
Lodger: Arthur NEWMAN 40, marr, Mail Driver, b Newhall, Derbyshire
(The Head of the house - the Publican - did not sleep in the household on census night, hence not listed - or else, they don't normally live there in the first place, but young Bernie consider Dad the is the boss (Head)!
1871: Barlborough, Nottinghamshire
RG10 / Piece: 3463 / Folio: 83 / Pg 17
Head: John ARTHUR 50, Grocer, b Whitwell, Derby.
Wife: Eliza ARTHUR 47, b London
1871: Barlborough, Nottinghamshire
RG10 / Piece: 3463 / Folio: 84 / Pg 19
Head: Sarah HODGKINSON 71, widow, Innkeeper, b Barlbro, Derbys.
Son: Robert ARTHUR 47, unm, b Barlbro, Derbys.
G-Son: Edward ARTHUR 25, marr?? unm??, b Barlbro, Derbys.
Serv: Ann CLARKE 17, unm, b Staveley, Derbys.
(To me it looks like the marital status of Edward ARTHUR - who I believe is John Edward ARTHUR - has been changed frim Unm to Marr, but it's not certain)
Cheers
AMBLY
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AMBLY
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The 1844 marriage in Worksop District of John ARTHUR, was to to Eliza Milner WELSH
1841:Barlborough, Derbyshire
Hundred of Scarsdale,
HO107 / Piece 193 / Book: 9 / Folio: 23 / Pg 13
George HODGKINSON 30, Engine man & Beer House Keeper
Sarah HODGKINSON 40
John ARTHUR 20, Joiner Ap.
Robert ARTHUR 15, Saddler Ap.
William ARTHUR 13,
Sarah WINGFIELD 15, F S
ALL Born Derbyshire
1841:Barlborough, Derbyshire
Hundred of Scarsdale,
HO107 / Piece 193 / Book: 9 / Folio: 8 / Pg 11
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Rebecca STOREY 40 Shopkeeper,
Mary STOREY 10
Margaret STOREY 7
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Eliza WELSH 15
John WEBSTER 60, Ind
Thomas WEBSTER 50, Ind
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ALL born in Derbyshire, except Eliza WELSH.
Cheers
AMBLY
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oooooo my goodness, ta muchly AMBLY !!!!
yer blood is worth bottling 
Sorry. maidmarianopps, for having been so
obscure.
Thanks again
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Greetings Sylvia,
See you have Jarvis in Notts/Derby 
I do also. Does yours connect with Blower at all?
Ta again for your help
Eda
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