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Topic: Baptist church in SA Archives (Read 968 times)
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Danchaslyn
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Hi
Can someone please advise if the Baptist Church in South Africa keep archives, and if so, whom, and where, and how would I contact? Preferably by email? 
Cheers
Danchaslyn
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JORGENSON, Hole, Ringerike, Buskurud, Norway
AITKEN, Scotland, England, India, Island of St Helena, South Africa
LOBB, India and London
WALSH, India and England
SHORT, Yorkshire, England, Island of St Helena
BATEMAN, Island of St Helena, U.S.A.
YUILL, U.S.A.
FIRTH, Yorkshire, Engand
LIPTROT, various counties of England
SMITH, various counties of England
LYNCH, Yorkshire, England, Rhodesia and South Africa
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Danchaslyn
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Hi Bowes and All
Seem to remember that the Rev Thomas Aitken, ex-St Helena Island, formerly of West Linton, nr Edinburgh, Scotland, died in 1935, Kingswilliamstown, Eastern Cape, South Africa, used to be a Baptist Minister in Wynberg, Cape.
Could someone please tell me if Wynberg, Cape, is near Zonnebloem, Gardens, Cape?
Also, would someone have info of his being a Baptist Minister in Germiston, Wynberg and Kingswilliamstown, and elsewhere?
Any info much appreciated..........
Cheers
Danchaslyn
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JORGENSON, Hole, Ringerike, Buskurud, Norway
AITKEN, Scotland, England, India, Island of St Helena, South Africa
LOBB, India and London
WALSH, India and England
SHORT, Yorkshire, England, Island of St Helena
BATEMAN, Island of St Helena, U.S.A.
YUILL, U.S.A.
FIRTH, Yorkshire, Engand
LIPTROT, various counties of England
SMITH, various counties of England
LYNCH, Yorkshire, England, Rhodesia and South Africa
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Danchaslyn
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Hello
For anyone needing to find relatives with connections to the Baptist Church in the United Kingdom, it has taken me six weeks to discover that you can contact the Baptist Church, in England, through their website, the Baptist Union of Great Britain.
www.baptist.org.uk
Cheers
Danchaslyn
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JORGENSON, Hole, Ringerike, Buskurud, Norway
AITKEN, Scotland, England, India, Island of St Helena, South Africa
LOBB, India and London
WALSH, India and England
SHORT, Yorkshire, England, Island of St Helena
BATEMAN, Island of St Helena, U.S.A.
YUILL, U.S.A.
FIRTH, Yorkshire, Engand
LIPTROT, various counties of England
SMITH, various counties of England
LYNCH, Yorkshire, England, Rhodesia and South Africa
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Danchaslyn
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Hello
To help anyone trying to trace a relative who was a Baptist Missionary around the world try logging on to:
www.BMS World Mission.org uk
Cheers
Danchaslyn
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MOE, Norway, Swaziland, and Zululand, South Africa
JORGENSON, Hole, Ringerike, Buskurud, Norway
AITKEN, Scotland, England, India, Island of St Helena, South Africa
LOBB, India and London
WALSH, India and England
SHORT, Yorkshire, England, Island of St Helena
BATEMAN, Island of St Helena, U.S.A.
YUILL, U.S.A.
FIRTH, Yorkshire, Engand
LIPTROT, various counties of England
SMITH, various counties of England
LYNCH, Yorkshire, England, Rhodesia and South Africa
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Danchaslyn
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Hello
For anyone wishing to trace someone who was a Baptist Minister in Scotland, the following www details apply:
Baptist Union of Scotland
Neither the Baptist Union of Great Britain, nor the BMS World Mission will be able to help with details, if the Minister was based in Scotland.
Cheers
Danchaslyn
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AITKEN, Scotland, England, India, Island of St Helena, South Africa
LOBB, India and London
WALSH, India and England
SHORT, Yorkshire, England, Island of St Helena
BATEMAN, Island of St Helena, U.S.A.
YUILL, U.S.A.
FIRTH, Yorkshire, Engand
LIPTROT, various counties of England
SMITH, various counties of England
LYNCH, Yorkshire, England, Rhodesia and South Africa
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Danchaslyn
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Hello
As Rev Thomas Aitken emigrated from Scotland, to the Island of St Helena as a Baptist Minister, where he was the Prison Chaplain, from roughly 1898 - 1905?? and then on to South Africa, where he again was a Baptist Minister and later, the General Secretary of the Baptist Union of SA, ................. the Baptist Union of Great Britain, the BMS World Mission claim they have no record of him.
The Baptist Union of Scotland claim they have no record of him, but have put me in touch with the Peebles Baptist Church, formed in 1889, which may have been Rev Thomas Aitken's local place of worship, prior to his emigration to the Island of St Helena.
I'm still trying to discover where, and how it was, that Thomas Aitken, became a Baptist Minister?
Cheers
Danchaslyn
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LOBB, India and London
WALSH, India and England
SHORT, Yorkshire, England, Island of St Helena
BATEMAN, Island of St Helena, U.S.A.
YUILL, U.S.A.
FIRTH, Yorkshire, Engand
LIPTROT, various counties of England
SMITH, various counties of England
LYNCH, Yorkshire, England, Rhodesia and South Africa
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Danchaslyn
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Posts: 596
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Hello
To help trace a relative, in South Africa, with connections to the Baptist Church, the following may help:
http://baptistunion.org.za/Department/tabid/ST/Default.aspc
I have contacted them seeking any information on Rev Thomas Aitken, and await their reply. 
Any other help and any other details on the Rev Thomas Aitken and family will be happily received. 
Cheers
Danchaslyn
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JORGENSON, Hole, Ringerike, Buskurud, Norway
AITKEN, Scotland, England, India, Island of St Helena, South Africa
LOBB, India and London
WALSH, India and England
SHORT, Yorkshire, England, Island of St Helena
BATEMAN, Island of St Helena, U.S.A.
YUILL, U.S.A.
FIRTH, Yorkshire, Engand
LIPTROT, various counties of England
SMITH, various counties of England
LYNCH, Yorkshire, England, Rhodesia and South Africa
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Danchaslyn
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Posts: 596
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Hello
Can someone please help me with a lookup as to how and when, Rev Thomas Aitken, travelled, presumably, from Scotland, mid-1896?
I've traced him to St Vincent, one of the Cape Verde Islands, where he arrived September, 1896, departed for South Africa, March, 1897.
But have no passage details and would appreciate those and help with any info on him, as a missionary at St Vincent please?
Cheers
Danchaslyn
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AITKEN, Scotland, England, India, Island of St Helena, South Africa
LOBB, India and London
WALSH, India and England
SHORT, Yorkshire, England, Island of St Helena
BATEMAN, Island of St Helena, U.S.A.
YUILL, U.S.A.
FIRTH, Yorkshire, Engand
LIPTROT, various counties of England
SMITH, various counties of England
LYNCH, Yorkshire, England, Rhodesia and South Africa
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Danchaslyn
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Posts: 596
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Hello B
Wellllll........thank you so much for super flag, the best I've ever seen!!!
And for great help with Thomas Aitken's death, it is the right one. I've just discovered he died 1935, think possibly early in the year, in Kingswilliamstown, and buried, Kingswilliamstown.
Will email you with bare facts I have so far, to-morrow , when internet isn't so busy, this took half an hour to get into RC!  ..........hoping you will be able to find out more.
Cheers
Danchaslyn
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WALSH, India and England
SHORT, Yorkshire, England, Island of St Helena
BATEMAN, Island of St Helena, U.S.A.
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Danchaslyn
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Hello
The last record I have of Thomas Aitken in the UK, in Scotland, is:
1891 Census - Thomas Aitken, age 20, Boarder, Joiner
53 Caledonia Road
Cambusmethan
Wishaw
Scotland
Home of Janet Steele
Wishaw is about 15 miles South East of Glasgow. 
Some of his family are still at the family home, West Linton at this time. 
So, I'm assuming he left working for his father, or with his father, John Aitken, also a Joiner?
Maybe he attended a Baptist Church in Cambusmethan, and there decided to be a missionary?
Have not details on Janet Steele, she may have been a relative, I don't know?
Five years later, he is on the Island of St Vincent, part of the Cape Verde Island Group, as a Baptist Missionary.
Cheers
Danchaslyn
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JORGENSON, Hole, Ringerike, Buskurud, Norway
AITKEN, Scotland, England, India, Island of St Helena, South Africa
LOBB, India and London
WALSH, India and England
SHORT, Yorkshire, England, Island of St Helena
BATEMAN, Island of St Helena, U.S.A.
YUILL, U.S.A.
FIRTH, Yorkshire, Engand
LIPTROT, various counties of England
SMITH, various counties of England
LYNCH, Yorkshire, England, Rhodesia and South Africa
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Danchaslyn
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Hello
No response as yet from the Peebles Baptist Church (since 15 May) and seeing that I now know that Thomas Aitken was living in Cambusmethan, when he was 20, near Wishaw, I have now contacted the Wishaw Baptist Church.
Hoping they will be able to tell me if he was a member of their congregation and if they recruited/trained missionaries for around the world, in the latter part of last century?
AND, if they have any specific details of him??
Cheers
Danchaslyn
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AITKEN, Scotland, England, India, Island of St Helena, South Africa
LOBB, India and London
WALSH, India and England
SHORT, Yorkshire, England, Island of St Helena
BATEMAN, Island of St Helena, U.S.A.
YUILL, U.S.A.
FIRTH, Yorkshire, Engand
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Danchaslyn
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Hello
No response yet from either the Peebles Baptist Church, nor the Wishaw Baptist Church
Would anyone know please, how to discover where and how, Baptist Missionaries were recruited and trained in Scotland, round about 1895?
Cheers
Danchaslyn
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AITKEN, Scotland, England, India, Island of St Helena, South Africa
LOBB, India and London
WALSH, India and England
SHORT, Yorkshire, England, Island of St Helena
BATEMAN, Island of St Helena, U.S.A.
YUILL, U.S.A.
FIRTH, Yorkshire, Engand
LIPTROT, various counties of England
SMITH, various counties of England
LYNCH, Yorkshire, England, Rhodesia and South Africa
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Danchaslyn
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Hello
My late mother's Journal of her trip to the Island of St Helena, October, 1985, accompanied by her elder sister, Dorothy Aitken, and their cousin, Winifred Bateman from the USA, has just been retrieved from storage in the barn.
Pages and pages of photos, memorabilia and 40 A4 pages of handwritten notes to read and enjoy later!
So, at last will have some more answers to never ending questions about the life of her parents, Rev Thomas and Edith Aitken on the Island, from 1897 - 1905! 
Cheers
Danchaslyn
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AITKEN, Scotland, England, India, Island of St Helena, South Africa
LOBB, India and London
WALSH, India and England
SHORT, Yorkshire, England, Island of St Helena
BATEMAN, Island of St Helena, U.S.A.
YUILL, U.S.A.
FIRTH, Yorkshire, Engand
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LYNCH, Yorkshire, England, Rhodesia and South Africa
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Danchaslyn
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A series of photographs, taken by the Rev Thomas Aitken, 1898 - 1904, had previously been donated by Dorothy Aitken, to the Museum in Jamestown, St Helena, and the lady Curator on the 11 Oct, 1985, was busy showing them to a party of primary school children when Edith Constance Moe, nee Aitken, Dorothy Aitken and Winifred Bateman, his descendants visited the Museum.
Mention is made that in the main square of Jamestown, they walked past the church where the Rev Tom had been Minister and the Hospital where their mother had been a nurse.
On a visit to the Archives, they found records of their Grandparents 'Robert Galbraith (Ships Chandler) and Elizabeth Short.
I don't know where Robert Galbraith fits in the family tree?
Edith Mary Short, b St Helena, (married Rev Thomas Aitken), as far as I know, her parents were from Yorkshire, England, but I don't yet know her parents' names?
Cheers
Danchaslyn
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JORGENSON, Hole, Ringerike, Buskurud, Norway
AITKEN, Scotland, England, India, Island of St Helena, South Africa
LOBB, India and London
WALSH, India and England
SHORT, Yorkshire, England, Island of St Helena
BATEMAN, Island of St Helena, U.S.A.
YUILL, U.S.A.
FIRTH, Yorkshire, Engand
LIPTROT, various counties of England
SMITH, various counties of England
LYNCH, Yorkshire, England, Rhodesia and South Africa
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