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Danchaslyn
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I've noticed from my late mother's Journal of the trip to St Helena that her elder sister Dorothy is actually,
'Elizabeth Dorothy Aitken'
also, their American cousin Winifred, age 86, at time of voyage in 1985, is..
'Winifred Grace Bateman'.
Family names again, as Dorothy and Constance's eldest sister was Winifred Grace Aitken.
Cheers
Danchaslyn
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JORGENSON, Hole, Ringerike, Buskurud, Norway
AITKEN, Scotland, England, India, Island of St Helena, South Africa
LOBB, India and London
WALSH, India and England
SHORT, Yorkshire, England, Island of St Helena
BATEMAN, Island of St Helena, U.S.A.
YUILL, U.S.A.
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Danchaslyn
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From IGI:
Winifred Bateman, b 25 July, 1899
Death: 1 April, 1996 Social Security No: 131-12-1579
Obtained in New York State
Death Register ZIP Code 28601
North Carolina
Could this be cousin Winifred G Bateman?
Cheers
Danchslyn
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AITKEN, Scotland, England, India, Island of St Helena, South Africa
LOBB, India and London
WALSH, India and England
SHORT, Yorkshire, England, Island of St Helena
BATEMAN, Island of St Helena, U.S.A.
YUILL, U.S.A.
FIRTH, Yorkshire, Engand
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SMITH, various counties of England
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Danchaslyn
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Came across a scrap of paper, in the hand of a long gone relative and it states that THOMAS AITKEN attended Spurgeons College in London for training for the Baptist Ministry.
http://en.wikipedia.org./wiki/Spurgeons_College (See Spurgeons in Wikipedia)
Noted that in Thomas Aitken's day (he may have attended the College between roughly 1887 - 1896), it was called The Pastors College
It opened in 1857 and was named after Charles Haddon Spurgeon and is run by the Baptist Union of Great Britain in association with the University of Wales.
I've emailed the Archivist at the College requesting further details of Thomas Aitken's time there as a student.
Cheers
Danchaslyn
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LOBB, India and London
WALSH, India and England
SHORT, Yorkshire, England, Island of St Helena
BATEMAN, Island of St Helena, U.S.A.
YUILL, U.S.A.
FIRTH, Yorkshire, Engand
LIPTROT, various counties of England
SMITH, various counties of England
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Lorand
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Hi Danchaslyn,
You may be able to get some record of your grandfather, Thomas Aitkin from the Baptist Theological College in Randburg, Transvaal. The president of the college was Rev Dr Rex Mathie.
When I lived in Durban and worked for the CESA in Pinetown, Dr Mathie often preached as a guest speaker. This was in 1980's, so not sure if Rex Mathie is still there, but the college would may have records of your grandfather, though he lived in the Cape.
Hope you manage to get a photo of him soon.
Lorand
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Danchaslyn
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Hello Lorand
Well, well, your advice is certainly a new avenue to explore! thank you! 
As Thomas Aitken lived and preached in the Cape, Eastern Cape and Natal, and also, come to think of it, Germiston, in the Transvaal, the Baptist Theological College in Randburg, may well have some records on him. 
I'll google and see if I can get a contact email address for the College. 
Yes, a picture would make me so happy, also to know his history of his last years in Scotland, round about 1890 - 1895? 
Cheers
Danchaslyn
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AITKEN, Scotland, England, India, Island of St Helena, South Africa
LOBB, India and London
WALSH, India and England
SHORT, Yorkshire, England, Island of St Helena
BATEMAN, Island of St Helena, U.S.A.
YUILL, U.S.A.
FIRTH, Yorkshire, Engand
LIPTROT, various counties of England
SMITH, various counties of England
LYNCH, Yorkshire, England, Rhodesia and South Africa
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Danchaslyn
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Hello Lorand
Thank you so much for the info on the BTC Southern Africa, in Randburg, Gauteng. 
I now have the mail address of their archivist to write to.
Your Rev Dr Rex Mathie must have retired, as the Principal is now, Dr Martin Pohlmann.
Again, thank you so much, I've waited since the beginning of April for someone to please post who to contact in SA to contact the BU Archives!
Cheers
Danchaslyn
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AITKEN, Scotland, England, India, Island of St Helena, South Africa
LOBB, India and London
WALSH, India and England
SHORT, Yorkshire, England, Island of St Helena
BATEMAN, Island of St Helena, U.S.A.
YUILL, U.S.A.
FIRTH, Yorkshire, Engand
LIPTROT, various counties of England
SMITH, various counties of England
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pasdlm
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Dear Danchaslyn,
Here is some information about the Rev Thomas Aitken. The information I have about Rev Aitken, is what I can get from the book, “By Taking Heed – the History of Baptists in Southern Africa”, by Sydney Hudson-Reed.
1897 -1905 - Pastor on St Helena Island. After moving to South Africa,
1905 -1910 - Pastor of the Walmer Road Baptist Church, Port Elizabeth
1910 -1913 - Pastor of the Lambert Road Baptist Church, Durban
1913 -1918 - Pastor of the Bulwer Road Baptist Church, Durban
1918 -1920 - Pastor of the Wynberg Baptist Church, Cape Town
1920 -1923 - Pastor of Germiston Baptist Church, Transvaal
1924 -1934 - Pastor of the Taylor Street Baptist Church in King Williams Town
He was elected President of the Baptist Union of South Africa in 1917 at the Bloemfontein Assembly
He was also Secretary of the Baptist Union of SA from April,1919 – January,1935 (obviously in a part-time capacity)
1935 – He passed away.
I spoke to my 96 year old father this evening because he lived in King Williams Town from his birth until 1934. He and my grandparents were members of the Taylor Street Baptist Church in KWT and so my father as a young person remembers him well. My grandparents were involved in a tragic level crossing accident in 1930 and Rev Aitken took my father into his home until the recovery of my grandfather. Unfortunately my grandmother died.
Hope this little bit of information helps you.
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Lorand
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Hi Pasdlm,
Just saw you post re Rev Thomas Aitken. I know that Danchaslyn will be thrilled to get it. You mentioned that your dad lived in King Williams Town and I wondered if he knew my mother's family who lived there at the time, though they would have attended the Presby. church.
The surname is McCall:
Archibald, a butcher.
Mary, his wife
Janet,
Chrissie
James
My mum, Janet McCall, would have gone to school in KWT in the early 1930's
Lorand
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Lorand
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Hi Pasdlm,
Thanks for your reply. Please don't worry your dad unnecessarily, especially as he is now frail and so far away from you.
My mum's family also went to EL where she attended high school and then on to J'burg. They were all fairly big places so he may not remember.
Kind regards
Lorand
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