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Ellen FLATT
« on: Wednesday 11 November 09 06:26 UTC (UK) »

 Ellen was born in 1897 in Blything to Harold Flatt and Alice Mouser. I have been told that she had a sister Emma. She married Richard Feveyear in 1920 and had two sons Henry Charles b: 1921 d: 1922 and Walter George b: 1922 d: 2008. Ellen died in 1933.
My question is, can anyone find out more information on Ellen's parents. I have come up against a brick wall, I would like to know when they married and how many children they had. If anyone can help i would appreciate it
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Re: Ellen Flatt
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 11 November 09 10:02 UTC (UK) »

Hi Ausmaz,

I'm struggling to find BMDs for these people.
(edit: Found her marriage at last: Ellen K Flatt to Feveyear, Dec 1920 Blything 4a 2847)

Think I've found her in 1901 though - let's see if this helps tracing her parents back

1901
RG13/1794 21 2
Cratfield, Suffolk (Blything registrating district)
Silverlace Green
4 rooms occupied

Harry Flate(?), head, 31, Ag lab, b. Linstead Magna Suffolk
Alice, wife, 29, b. Cratfield Suffolk
Jessie, dau, 9, b. Linstead Magna
George, son, 7, b. do.
Ellen K, dau, 3, b. do.
Emma A, dau, 2 mo, b. Cratfield
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Re: Ellen Flatt
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 11 November 09 10:05 UTC (UK) »

OK! Marriage

Harry Flatt to possibly Alice Monser
Dec 1889 Blything 4a 1708a

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Re: Ellen Flatt
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 11 November 09 10:20 UTC (UK) »

Harry in 1871:

1871
RG10/1770 18 5
Linstead Magna, Suffolk

George Flatt, head, 39, Labourer, b. Cratfield
Emma, wife, 35, b. (can't read)
Mary, dau, 10, b. Linstead Parva
George, son, 7, b. do.
Ellen, dau, 4, b. do.
Harry, son, 1, b. do.

next door: a John Flatt age 41 born Cratfield and his family
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Re: Ellen Flatt
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 11 November 09 10:45 UTC (UK) »

Possible Alice in 1881:
http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=uki1881&indiv=try&h=20195962
RG11/1892 30 16
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Re: Ellen Flatt
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 11 November 09 12:46 UTC (UK) »

Hi Ausmaz,

Possible 1841 for George FLATT;

1841 Census
Cratfield, Suffolk
HO107/1015/10/Cratfield

George FLATT, 40, Ag Lab
Elizabeth Flatt, 34
GEORGE Flatt, 9
Isaac Flatt, 2
James Flatt, 1
All born in County

1851 Census George ( under Flat) aged 19, is a servant in the Prime household in Ubbeston, Suffolk
HO107/1803/409/11

Marriage;
George FLATT
December 1855, Blything, 4a 1549
On same page, Emma SKEET

1861 Census ( under FLATE)
Linstead Parva, Suffolk
RG9/1181/6/5

George FLATE, 28,Head, Mar, Labourer born Cratfield, Suffolk
Emma Flate, 24, Wife, Mar, born Ubbeston, Suffolk
Elizabeth, 4, Daug, born Ubbeston, Suffolk
Mary, 9mths, Neice, Visitor, born Linstead Parva, Suffolk***

So is Mary their daughter or not??
Next door is John Flate and family same as 1871

1871 Census TATI has found for you  and I cant find George on 1881 Census. This may be why;

Death;
George FLATT
September 1872, Blything, 4a 416, Age 40

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Re: Ellen Flatt
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 11 November 09 13:47 UTC (UK) »

SKEET;

1851 Census
Ubbeston, Suffolk
HO107/1803/407/6

George SKEET, 36, head, mar, ag lab, born Ubbeston
Mary Skeet, 35, wife, mar, born Cratfield
EMMA Skeet, 14, daug, born Ubbeston
Marianne Skeet, 10, daug, born Ubbeston
Elleanor Skeet, 7, daug, born Ubbeston
Eliza Skeet, 2, daug, born Ubbeston
George Skeet, 9mths, son, born Ubbeston

Marriage from IGI, extracted;
George SKEET
Mary EDWARDS
09 February 1837, Ubbeston, Suffolk, England

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Re: Ellen Flatt
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 11 November 09 14:09 UTC (UK) »

1881 Census Emma is a widow. Harry seems to be HENRY now ( image is a little hard to read). Everything else matches.

1881 Census
Bell Green,
Cratfield, Suffolk
RG11/1892/28/12

Emma FLATT, 46, Head, Widow, no occp, born Ubbeston
Mary Flatt, 21, Daug, Servant, born Linstead
George Flatt, 17, Son, Labourer, born Linstead
HENRY Flatt, 11, Son, Scholar, born Linstead
Japeth Flatt, 8, Son, Scholar, born Linstead

So Ellen has left home by 1881 or died and another Son has been born.



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Re: Ellen Flatt
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 11 November 09 14:56 UTC (UK) »

MMM Wink

Heres a surprise Grin

Marriage;
Emma FLATT
December 1883
Blything 4a 1660
On same page, William SIMPSON and William MOUSER

1891 Census
Bell Green,
Cratfield, Suffolk
RG12/1484/25/6

William MAUSER, 44, Head , Mar, Ag Lab, born Cratfield
EMMA MAUSER, 54, Wife, Mar, born Ubbeston
William Mauser, 18, Son, S, Unm, ag lab, born Linstead
John Mauser, 10, Son, Scholar, born Cratfield
Charles Mauser, 5, Son, born Cratfield
George PLATT, 37( 27), Son in law, S, Ag lab, born Linstead
William PLATT, 18, Son in law, S, Ag lab, born Linstead

Ok, she has married a Mouser!!
George is indexed as 37 but image looks more like 27 which fits. Has Japhet ( aged 8 in 1881) become William. Looks like it.

Its really late here so will sign of now but I wonder if William Mouser is related to Alice Mousers Dad James?

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Re: Ellen FLATT
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 21 November 09 00:21 UTC (UK) »

Hello Trish1120,
Thankyou for all that information it certainly looks as if you are on the right track.
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Re: Ellen FLATT
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 21 November 09 01:59 UTC (UK) »

You are very welcome Smiley
But Tati did start this off so I cant take all the credit.

1901 Census
RG13/1794/21/1
Swan Green,
Cratfield, Suffolk

William MAUSER, 52, Head, Mar, Farmer, born Cratfield
EMMA Mauser, 67, Wife, Mar, boirn Ubbeston
John Mauser, 20, Son, S, Farm lab, born Cratfield
Charles Mauser, 15, Son, S, Farm lab, born Linstead Magna
George ELATE(sic), 37, Son in law, S, farm lab, born Cratfield
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Re: Ellen FLATT
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 21 November 09 02:42 UTC (UK) »

1841 Census
Ubbeston, Suffolk
HO107/1017/1/Ubbeston

George SKEET, 25, Ag lab
Mary, 25
Emmer (sic), 4
Mary Ann, 2mths
All born in County

1851 census George is alive and have posted earlier.

DEATH;
George SKEET
June 1855
Blything 4a 444

1861 Census Mary SKEET has remarried;


1861 Census
RG9/1154/52/9
Dennington, Suffolk
William COPPING, 46, Head, Mar, ag lab, born Dennington
MARY Copping, 44, Wife, Mar, born Cratfield
William Copping, 18, Son, Unm, ag lab, Badingham
David Copping, 13, Son, Unm, ag lab, Badingham
GEORGE SKEET, 10, son, Unm, ag lab, born Upton
Elizabeth Skeet, 9, daug, Unm, scholar, born Upton

Marriage;
William COPPING
Mary SKEET
December 1858
Blything 4a 1557

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Re: Ellen FLATT
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 21 November 09 02:55 UTC (UK) »

Possible christening for Mary EDWARDS/Skeet/Copping

Mary EDWARDS
31 December 1815, Cratfield, Suffolk
Parents, ISRAEL and MARY
Siblings,
Benjamin, born 22 Jan 1812, christened same day as Mary
Hannah, 22 June 1819, died 23 Nov 1819
Henry, 25 June 1820
Harry, 18 November 1818
All extracted records IGI

Enough for today Wink
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