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Ausmaz1
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Ellen FLATT
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Ellen was born in 1897 in Blything to Harold Flatt and Alice Mouser. I have been told that she had a sister Emma. She married Richard Feveyear in 1920 and had two sons Henry Charles b: 1921 d: 1922 and Walter George b: 1922 d: 2008. Ellen died in 1933. My question is, can anyone find out more information on Ellen's parents. I have come up against a brick wall, I would like to know when they married and how many children they had. If anyone can help i would appreciate it Ausmaz1
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Tati
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Hi Ausmaz,
I'm struggling to find BMDs for these people. (edit: Found her marriage at last: Ellen K Flatt to Feveyear, Dec 1920 Blything 4a 2847)
Think I've found her in 1901 though - let's see if this helps tracing her parents back
1901 RG13/1794 21 2 Cratfield, Suffolk (Blything registrating district) Silverlace Green 4 rooms occupied Harry Flate(?), head, 31, Ag lab, b. Linstead Magna Suffolk Alice, wife, 29, b. Cratfield Suffolk Jessie, dau, 9, b. Linstead Magna George, son, 7, b. do. Ellen K, dau, 3, b. do. Emma A, dau, 2 mo, b. Cratfield
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"My dear, I think the English pronounce it 'appiness" Desire and hunger is the fire I breathe Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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Harry in 1871:
1871 RG10/1770 18 5 Linstead Magna, Suffolk George Flatt, head, 39, Labourer, b. Cratfield Emma, wife, 35, b. (can't read) Mary, dau, 10, b. Linstead Parva George, son, 7, b. do. Ellen, dau, 4, b. do. Harry, son, 1, b. do.
next door: a John Flatt age 41 born Cratfield and his family
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"My dear, I think the English pronounce it 'appiness" Desire and hunger is the fire I breathe Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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trish1120
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Hi Ausmaz,
Possible 1841 for George FLATT;
1841 Census Cratfield, Suffolk HO107/1015/10/Cratfield
George FLATT, 40, Ag Lab Elizabeth Flatt, 34 GEORGE Flatt, 9 Isaac Flatt, 2 James Flatt, 1 All born in County
1851 Census George ( under Flat) aged 19, is a servant in the Prime household in Ubbeston, Suffolk HO107/1803/409/11
Marriage; George FLATT December 1855, Blything, 4a 1549 On same page, Emma SKEET
1861 Census ( under FLATE) Linstead Parva, Suffolk RG9/1181/6/5
George FLATE, 28,Head, Mar, Labourer born Cratfield, Suffolk Emma Flate, 24, Wife, Mar, born Ubbeston, Suffolk Elizabeth, 4, Daug, born Ubbeston, Suffolk Mary, 9mths, Neice, Visitor, born Linstead Parva, Suffolk***
So is Mary their daughter or not?? Next door is John Flate and family same as 1871
1871 Census TATI has found for you and I cant find George on 1881 Census. This may be why;
Death; George FLATT September 1872, Blything, 4a 416, Age 40
Trish
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All Census Look Ups Are Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukCummins, Miskelly(IRELAND + NZ) ,Leggett (SFK + NFK ENGLAND + NZ),Purdy ( NBL ENGLAND + NZ ), Shaw YKS, LANCs + NZ), Holdsworth(LINCS +LANCS + NZ), Moloney, Dean, Fitzpatrick, ( County Down,IRE) Newby(NBL.ENG, Costello(IRE), Ivers, Murray(IRE),Reay(NBL.ENG) Reid (BERW.SCOTLAND)
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SKEET;
1851 Census Ubbeston, Suffolk HO107/1803/407/6
George SKEET, 36, head, mar, ag lab, born Ubbeston Mary Skeet, 35, wife, mar, born Cratfield EMMA Skeet, 14, daug, born Ubbeston Marianne Skeet, 10, daug, born Ubbeston Elleanor Skeet, 7, daug, born Ubbeston Eliza Skeet, 2, daug, born Ubbeston George Skeet, 9mths, son, born Ubbeston
Marriage from IGI, extracted; George SKEET Mary EDWARDS 09 February 1837, Ubbeston, Suffolk, England
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trish1120
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1881 Census Emma is a widow. Harry seems to be HENRY now ( image is a little hard to read). Everything else matches.
1881 Census Bell Green, Cratfield, Suffolk RG11/1892/28/12
Emma FLATT, 46, Head, Widow, no occp, born Ubbeston Mary Flatt, 21, Daug, Servant, born Linstead George Flatt, 17, Son, Labourer, born Linstead HENRY Flatt, 11, Son, Scholar, born Linstead Japeth Flatt, 8, Son, Scholar, born Linstead
So Ellen has left home by 1881 or died and another Son has been born.
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MMM 
Heres a surprise 
Marriage; Emma FLATT December 1883 Blything 4a 1660 On same page, William SIMPSON and William MOUSER
1891 Census Bell Green, Cratfield, Suffolk RG12/1484/25/6
William MAUSER, 44, Head , Mar, Ag Lab, born Cratfield EMMA MAUSER, 54, Wife, Mar, born Ubbeston William Mauser, 18, Son, S, Unm, ag lab, born Linstead John Mauser, 10, Son, Scholar, born Cratfield Charles Mauser, 5, Son, born Cratfield George PLATT, 37( 27), Son in law, S, Ag lab, born Linstead William PLATT, 18, Son in law, S, Ag lab, born Linstead
Ok, she has married a Mouser!! George is indexed as 37 but image looks more like 27 which fits. Has Japhet ( aged 8 in 1881) become William. Looks like it.
Its really late here so will sign of now but I wonder if William Mouser is related to Alice Mousers Dad James?
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Hello Trish1120, Thankyou for all that information it certainly looks as if you are on the right track.
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You are very welcome  But Tati did start this off so I cant take all the credit.
1901 Census RG13/1794/21/1 Swan Green, Cratfield, Suffolk
William MAUSER, 52, Head, Mar, Farmer, born Cratfield EMMA Mauser, 67, Wife, Mar, boirn Ubbeston John Mauser, 20, Son, S, Farm lab, born Cratfield Charles Mauser, 15, Son, S, Farm lab, born Linstead Magna George ELATE(sic), 37, Son in law, S, farm lab, born Cratfield
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1841 Census Ubbeston, Suffolk HO107/1017/1/Ubbeston
George SKEET, 25, Ag lab Mary, 25 Emmer (sic), 4 Mary Ann, 2mths All born in County
1851 census George is alive and have posted earlier.
DEATH; George SKEET June 1855 Blything 4a 444
1861 Census Mary SKEET has remarried;
1861 Census RG9/1154/52/9 Dennington, Suffolk William COPPING, 46, Head, Mar, ag lab, born Dennington MARY Copping, 44, Wife, Mar, born Cratfield William Copping, 18, Son, Unm, ag lab, Badingham David Copping, 13, Son, Unm, ag lab, Badingham GEORGE SKEET, 10, son, Unm, ag lab, born Upton Elizabeth Skeet, 9, daug, Unm, scholar, born Upton
Marriage; William COPPING Mary SKEET December 1858 Blything 4a 1557
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Possible christening for Mary EDWARDS/Skeet/Copping
Mary EDWARDS 31 December 1815, Cratfield, Suffolk Parents, ISRAEL and MARY Siblings, Benjamin, born 22 Jan 1812, christened same day as Mary Hannah, 22 June 1819, died 23 Nov 1819 Henry, 25 June 1820 Harry, 18 November 1818 All extracted records IGI
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