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Mum44
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Re: GT GT GT Grandfather George ROBINSON
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 08 April 09 10:38 UTC (UK) »


Likewise - Mary Ann Freeman aged 15 in 1851;  why do you think this is George William's mother ?

At the moment it seems the only "link" between this Mary(Ann) Freeman , George Robinson her  husband, and George William the son, is the fact that in 1851 census in March 1851  -  some 21 months before the baby was born  -  they were both living in Haggerstone.

At the moment the only definite date we have is George William was born Dec 1852

His parents ages we do not have  -  they could have been 20 when he was born,  they could have been 35  Wink  We cannot assume they were the two found on the 1851  Wink

Do you see why we are struggling ? 
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Re: GT GT GT Grandfather George ROBINSON
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 08 April 09 13:32 UTC (UK) »

Hi Mum44,

I take your point, I think when I initially found the details on the 1851 census I jumped to the conclusion that this had to be them due to the district and their names, in this case 2 + 2 = 5.


where do we go from here?

Regards....
Arthur.........
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« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 08 April 09 13:41 UTC (UK) »


Hello Arthur   Smiley

Let's try and work from the other end, as it were.

What else do you know about George William ?

Who did he marry ?  Where and when ?  What was his occupation ?

Who were his children  -  names and dates of birth ?

Do you have him - or his wife / children - on any other census ?

Even if you only have knowledge of which ever of his children was your great grandparent  - or even your grandparent -  tell us what you know and we'll try and work back from there using information we know is accurate   Smiley
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Re: GT GT GT Grandfather George ROBINSON
« Reply #18 on: Wednesday 08 April 09 14:00 UTC (UK) »
OK here goes...

George William went to India at some stage of his life. when or where in India I don't know that yet.

He married a lady by the name of Laura Lucille in India. no marriage certificate.

They have a son by the name of Arthur Ernest Robinson born on 13th January 1882 in Madras in India.

does this help at all ?

Regards.....
Arthur..........

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lizdb
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Re: GT GT GT Grandfather George ROBINSON
« Reply #19 on: Wednesday 08 April 09 15:13 UTC (UK) »
So how did you know GW was born Dec 1852 in Hagglestone, in order to go for that birth cert? Where did that info about his birth year and place come from?


The son Arthur Ernest, born 1882 in Madras - did he spend his whole life in India? Where/when did he marry and have children? was that in India or back in England?

(1901 census has 2 Arthur Robinsons born 1882 in India, but neither have parents George and Laura. Just shows how many Robinsons there are around)
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Re: GT GT GT Grandfather George ROBINSON
« Reply #20 on: Thursday 09 April 09 09:40 UTC (UK) »

Hi Lizdb,

I have George William's birth certificate, given to me by my late mother.

Arthur Ernest was born in a place called GOHATTI, ASSAM, INDIA.
He died in INDIA on 12th July 1939 in a place called Bangalore.

Married Nancy Margaret Kohlhoff on 24th April 1905 in a place called Trichur, INDIA.
Nancy was born on 21st March 1886 in Trichur, INDIA.
She died on 24th July 1969 here in England.

They had seven children, Denzil, Dolly, Gladys, Kenneth, Noreen, Trevor and Laura Annie.

Kenneth or Kenny as he was known was my dad.

Thank you !!!!!!!
 
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lizdb
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Re: GT GT GT Grandfather George ROBINSON
« Reply #21 on: Thursday 09 April 09 10:01 UTC (UK) »
Ok - so there will be no English records for Arthur then.

And we dont know about GW - if he went to India as a small child with his parents we are scuppered on him too!

BUT - as long as the birth cert that your late mother gave you for GW is the correct one, and if it is an original and not one someone sent for at a later date on a whim, then there is no reason to doubt it, then that is our ONLY definite starting point.

So we need to glean all the info we can from that!

So far we have -
date : 26/12/52
place: 27 Margaret Street Haggerstone East Shoreditch
father: George Robinson
occupation: cab driver
mother : MAry Robinson nee Freeman

Is there anything (anything at all!) else on the cert?
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Re: GT GT GT Grandfather George ROBINSON
« Reply #22 on: Thursday 09 April 09 12:29 UTC (UK) »
Lizdb....

Place should read.........7 Margaret Street, Haggerstone East Shoreditch.

The Birth Certificate is genuine.

Is there a way to check the UK Emmigration records to try and determine when GW left for INDIA.?
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Re: GT GT GT Grandfather George ROBINSON
« Reply #23 on: Thursday 09 April 09 14:08 UTC (UK) »
Some subscription sites have some outgoing passenger lists - but I fear with a name like Robinson and no dates it will be tricky to pinpoint him. Sorry havent got access to them myself.
I'm sure there was a thread somewhere on Rootschat with a link to a site with a bit of India info, but I cant really remember, might be worth a hunt around.

Meanwhile I would like oo find 7 Margaret Street in 1851, just under 2 yrs before GW was born there, in case that holds any clues....
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Re: GT GT GT Grandfather George ROBINSON
« Reply #24 on: Thursday 09 April 09 14:18 UTC (UK) »
Found Margaret PLACE - at Number 7 are a James and Caroline Fullbrook and their 4 small children, so no help there.
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Re: GT GT GT Grandfather George ROBINSON
« Reply #25 on: Thursday 09 April 09 14:23 UTC (UK) »
OK ignore last post
I have now found 7 Margaret Street in 1851

Richard and Susanah Eyles and daughter Hannah, Rchd is a hairdresser.

SOo still no clues - except that GW's parents moved to that address after 1851 census and before Dec 1852 ....
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Re: GT GT GT Grandfather George ROBINSON
« Reply #26 on: Monday 20 April 09 13:32 UTC (UK) »
It has gone very quiet !!!!!
No more posts Huh?
Is anyone still on the case HuhHuh
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Re: GT GT GT Grandfather George ROBINSON
« Reply #27 on: Tuesday 28 April 09 12:50 UTC (UK) »
someone please reply............
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Re: GT GT GT Grandfather George ROBINSON
« Reply #28 on: Tuesday 28 April 09 13:31 UTC (UK) »
Hi - I'm replying!

But I am afraid we havent replied as we have no more to offer that we can find.

Perhaps you can ask around around any living descendants for any more info. Or just keep thinknig of any where else where there might be a clue.

For example Did GW ever return from India? Is that where he died?
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Re: GT GT GT Grandfather George ROBINSON
« Reply #29 on: Tuesday 28 April 09 16:11 UTC (UK) »

Hi...

GW died in INDIA......

any other ideas at all Huh?
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