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willow154
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Hi David,
I couldn't find Ephraim on the 1841 census either - but there are many which are very hard to read on the Arlesey pages. (Possible one that might say Ephraim on page 5 - but not at all sure).
Found his marriage to Mary Newberry on 13 July 1846, Arlesey St. Peters.
Then, on the 1851 census he and Mary are living with her parents David and Phoebe Newberry, at Arlesey.
It's intersting to see that although Ephraim is down as being born in Arlesey on the 1851 census, that he's entered as being born at Vine, Langford, on the 1861 census.
So, I had a look to see where this is - and it is mid way between Arlesey and Astwick - which would fit in with the baptism (parish register entry) at Astwick in 1828. This states that his parents were Abraham and Elisabeth Albone.
It is possible Elizabeth/Elisabeth died in 1830 (on NBI) and Abraham married again, but I'm not certain of this, David.
Let me know what you think, David.
No rush - enjoy the cricket!
Paulene 
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bedfordshire boy
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Hi Paulene
I don't know why, but there are a lot of illegible pages in Beds on Ancestry where the image on my CDrom set from Stepping Stones is perfectly clear. I find I have to refer to the CDrom a lot.
And by so doing I think I may have found him! There's an Ephraim Albon aged 10 at reference HO107/3/1 folio 17A page 32. He's the 5th entry from the top. Don't tell me you missed it too! (don't worry if you did, the whole family is totally blank)
Edward Stanford 76 farmer Not b in Beds
Mary Stanford 70 B in Beds
Elizabeth Stanford 29 B in Beds
William Stanford 20 ag lab b in Beds
Ephraim Albon 10 ag lab b in Beds
It would have been nice if he'd been with his family, but I don't think it's necessary.
Mary Stanford's maiden name was Cooper, and she was a sister of my 4xg grandfather! But I'm pretty certain that she wasn't connected to the Albons.
I agree with your line back to Abraham. His first wife, the mother of Ephraim, was Elizabeth Cobb, baptised at Arlesey (all vital events are Arlesey unless stated otherwise) 17 Mar 1793 which ties in with the burial of Elizabeth Albon aged 38 on 5 June 1830. That leaves the way clear for Abraham to have married Sarah Hall at Langford on 11 Sep 1830. I believe she was the widow of John Hall and her maiden name was Hine. In 1851 their grand daughter Jane Hall age 12 was living with them (and probably in 1841 as well aged 2 but enumerated as Albon, transcribed as Abbon). She was baptised on 16 Apr 1843 aged 5, daughter of Sarah Hall, who was the daughter of John and Sarah. In 1841 Abraham and Sarah also had Thomas aged 15 living with them - I think he too may have been baptised at Astwick (my parents married there!) but the PR may be in error as his father is named as Edward, and mother Elizabeth. I haven't double checked to see if there really was an Edward and Elizabeth Albone.
Abraham was baptised on 14 April 1796, the son of Thomas and Mary.
Thomas Albon married Mary Lyne on 2 Apr 1793. Thomas was baptised on 9 Dec 1770, the son of Abraham and Ann
Abraham Albon married Ann Myatt on 8 Mar 1770.
And that was as far as I got last night before I got sidetracked by the cricket, which ended up in an anticlimax, at least for me!
I'll carry on this afternoon if my son and his two little friends will allow me to use the computer
I noticed that Ephraim gave Langford as his birthplace in one of the late censuses, 1901, I think, from memory. Glad you've sorted that out!
You say "Then, on the 1851 census he and Mary are living with her parents David and Phoebe Newberry". Phoebe was actually David's daughter, not his wife.
More later
David
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willow154
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Hi David,
Thank you for all the hard work you're putting into this.
After I came off rootschat last night I found the abbon family, and thought that probably was them.
Finally managed to make out the surname Albon on page 32, by making the page yellow, et etc, but still couldn't see the Ephraim - is it very small writing, David.
For interest; there are still quite a few of my husband's mum's family in the Arlesey area - Albon/Albones, Dear, Leggate, etc. Connie's father, Cliff, went off to train as a male nurse, with his wife Alice, but many of the family still live in Hitchin and Arlesey today.
I have to go off for a doctors appointment, but will be back on the case later.
Once again, thank you so much for your help.
Kind regards.
Paulene
Makes it so much more easy when they stay in one place - can't for the life of me find where mine came from!
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bedfordshire boy
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Not too hot at this attaching business. Let's see how it turns out!
Well I can read it, just about. Hope it works for you. If not send me a PM with your email and I'll attach it. Can't work out how to attach it so it appears under the message rather than as an attachment!
I've got loads on the Legates in Henlow - let me know if you need anything. Who's your Legate connection? I've got a couple of Dears, much the same as the Albons, but no direct line.
My Coopers were the opposite of yuppies - they stayed in Henlow and adjoining Arlesey from 1450 onwards. The only upwardly mobile ones went to the US on the Mayflower, hence American interest in the family
David
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willow154
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HI David,
That image was fine, thanks - very clear. Strange how the ones on ancestry are so bad in comparison; and the ones on findmypast are totally impossible to read (which surprised me as they usually get compliments on rootschat for clear images).
The lady from the Leggate line is Louisa Legate, daughter of James and Mary Ann (Henlow). She went into service at Edmonton, but got into the family way, came back to Henlow and then married Frederick Dear. It might have been Frederick Dear who had the grocery store, but I can't remember without looking through the details - I have a photo somewhere of the shop.
Connie, my dear mum-in-law, wondered if her mystery grandfather might have been the lord of the manor - Louisa was a cook. She asked me to look into it, but Louisa as far as I could see was one of many who went to Middlesex to work in domestic service in a middle class household. We even sent away for the head of the household's will to see if there was any mention of a child - Connie thought the head of the household must have had his "evil way" with her. I'm not so sure - the gentleman had a fifteen year old son, and of course perhaps Frederick might have been the child's father, who could not marry her at that time. We shall never know.
She grew up as part of the Dear household; a very close and loving household.
Amazing how close and inter-related all the families are, David.
The sad thing is that Connie's mum, who was a nurse, never got over being born illegitimate - it was something she hid all the days of her life, and felt ashamed of. I never her met her; but she was, I believe, a very gentle and loving lady.
Bye for now.
Paulene
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willow154
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You're right, David, it is strange how Epraim is with another family on the 1841 census - might have been working with the farmer, but might not have liked the new mum-in-law.
Some bell is ringing that it might be Ephraim that I spotted something about being "disorderly" - I haven't looked at this line for a couple of years. If I do find it, I'll let you know, David.
That might explain why he was there!  
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bedfordshire boy
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Hi Paulene
I have Louisa in my tree, born c1875, daughter of James and Mary Ann (Mays). Her gg grandmother, who married John Legate, was Rachel Albon born 1730, baptised in Jan 1752 age 22 at Clifton, but unfortunately no parents are mentioned. Must have a look a bit deeper into her!
David
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willow154
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Hi David,
I think it's the same Louisa, David - on the 1901 census she is working as a cook for the managing director of the cement works in Arlesey. The following year she marries Frederick George Dear:
Jun qtr 1902 Biggleswade 3b 677
Alice is with her grandparents, James and Mary Ann, on the 1901 census.
Small world, isn't it! 
Must find that photograph.
Take care - hope you're having nice weather in France.
Paulene
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Dawn King
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Hi Paulene,
Just recently I began to trace my husband's side the King's who came from Arlesey, Bedford. There are a few King's who married Albon/Albone's and other names that have been mentioned in various postings to you. I can give you a contact a cousin to my husband who has done a huge amount of research, and confirmation to back up his findings. Please contact me for details.
Cheers,
Dawn King
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willow154
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Hi Dawn,
What a surprise
It's good to see you on rootschat - I hope you enjoy the site as much as I do. Have a good explore - not only tips and help with family history, but beautiful restoration son the Photographs board, too.
That's a wonderful offer (one I'm sure David might be interested in, too). I will send you a pm a bit later today - it's my son's eighteenth tomorrow so I have visitors coming today, and won't get on the computer very much.
If you have any ancestors in Notts that is my specialty area, so feel free to ask with regard to resources, books, etc.
Thank you so much for getting in touch, Dawn.
Kind regards,
Paulene
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bedfordshire boy
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Hi Dawn
Welcome to Rootschat
My only direct line Kings are Henry I and Henry II, and they weren't from Arlesey, which is where my Cooper and quite a few other ancestors were from!
I've done a lot of research on my Arlesey names, and will happily share the results with you.
I'll send you a PM
David
Later. I've just found that until you've made 3 postings I can't send you any personal messages. So this is what I intended sending you
Hi Dawn
I've been looking a bit closer at my Kings, and find I do have a couple from Arlesey, but they're very peripheral, and I haven't done any work on them. Likewise I have a few Albons but they too have married into my names, and I don't think any are direct line.
My main Arlesey names are Cooper, Topham, and Young. Let me know if any of these are connected to your names.
My email is (*) (substitute @ for at)
Kind regards
David
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willow154
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Hi Dawn,
Until David pointed it out, I didn't realise about not being able to pm until you had posted 3 times.
Hope to hear from you again on the thread.
Paulene
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Dawn King
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Hi Paulene,
Look forward to hearing from you, (*) Dawn
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