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forester
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Hello All,
I need some help. 
I am trying to find some info on Wallace Ambrose Truscott. His MIC on the NA index gives Wallace A Truscott, Pte 4958 and 303020, London Regiment. I believe he may have been in 1/5 or 2/5 (City of London) Battalion (London Rifle Brigade).
From what I can glean from FreeBMD, he was born Truro in 1885, married Elsie Paine in Lewisham 1914 and they had a son Derrick, born 1916.
Wallace died June Qu. 1918, age 32 (Lewisham 1d 1112). He is commemorated on two war memorials in Lee (Borough of Lewisham); St Mildreds and Church of the Good Shepherd.
So far, I have been unable to find him on CWGC or SDGW.
I do not partake in A***y at this point in time, but can see three hits in the Pensions records for what may be him. 
Specifically, I am looking for his occupation on enlistment; if, why and when he was discharged (SWB?) and any record of how he died.
Many thanks,
Phil
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forester
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Hello Neil,
He's not family, just a sideline of some research I was doing for some-one else and got curious.
I haven't got the MIC, just saw it indexed on TNA.I wondered if it was on A***y and may have a bit of useful info on it.
Phil
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millymcb
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Hi Phil - there are a few pages to go through but from first glance - his occupation was salesman and he was discharged as unfit for service - being paralysed in lower limbs...
Intended place of residence
146b Manor Lane, Lee
Medals....Victory & British (not the 14/15)
SWB - 182.4
More later -
Milly
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McBride (Monaghan & Manchester), Derbyshire (Bollington,Cheshire), Knight (Newcastle,Staffs), Smith (Chorley, Lancashire & Ireland), Tipladay (Manchester & Yorkshire) ,Steadman (Madeley,Shropshire), Steele (Manchester & Glasgow), Parkinson (Wigan, Lancashire), Lovatt, Cornes & Turner (Staffordshire) Stott (Oldham, Lancs). All ended up in Ardwick, Manchester - in Cotton Mills, Iron Works, or running pubs and corner shops. Census informatio is Crown Copyright http://www.nationalarchives.g |
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forester
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Thank you Milly, you're a star.
Take your time, I'm in no rush.
Phil 
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millymcb
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A bit more on the occupation but I can't read it
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McBride (Monaghan & Manchester), Derbyshire (Bollington,Cheshire), Knight (Newcastle,Staffs), Smith (Chorley, Lancashire & Ireland), Tipladay (Manchester & Yorkshire) ,Steadman (Madeley,Shropshire), Steele (Manchester & Glasgow), Parkinson (Wigan, Lancashire), Lovatt, Cornes & Turner (Staffordshire) Stott (Oldham, Lancs). All ended up in Ardwick, Manchester - in Cotton Mills, Iron Works, or running pubs and corner shops. Census informatio is Crown Copyright http://www.nationalarchives.g |
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forester
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Employed by Cookson and Co., St Pauls Churchyard, EC.
St Pauls Churchyard links Ludgate Hill and Cannon St.
Phil
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millymcb
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Well there were lots of pages....which give some interesting info - including details of his injury.... makes very interesting reading...here are the main things I have learnt...
Rifleman W A Truscott 303020 (formerly 4958)
Next of kin...wife.... Elsie Alice Paine sep 26 1914. witnesses Arthur Paine & I think Theodore A Paine
Child Derrick Arthur Paine born april 3 1916
Discharge (in London) 29/10/17 cause 392 XVI 1/5 Bn London Regt (Rifleman 303020)
(However - letter from hospital oct 1 1917 has him down as 2/5 Bn & Other papers generally just say 5th Bn
attested 11 - 12 - 1915
mob 17 - 5 - 1916
other dates listed...(see originals)
served in France - was of good character - was commended
Home 11/12/15 - 1/10/16
BEF France 2/10/16 - 21/1/17
Home 22/1/17 - 10/6/17
BEF France 11/6/17 - 26/9/17
Home 27/9/17 - 29/10/17
served 1year 323 days
Chelsea Number 137554 E
Originally intended discharge residence to be somewhere in Cornwall but crossed out and the Lee address is written in.
Medical Board 8/10/17 - Total disablement, GSW back fractured spine with paralysis lower limbs.
In action 20/9/17 Ypres (possibly says near Ypres as it does later on another page).
Permanent total incapacity no treatment required.
I think it says he got a pension of 27/6 a week and 5/- for one child....but there is another number (39) - have posted extract as cannot work it out.
Medical report (oct 6 1917) has detailed explanation of wound - caused by bullet and was X-rayed....Patient was in an attack when he was struck in the back, does not know by what - fell in shell hole and realised he could not move. Admitted Northumberland War Hospital, Gosforth, Newcastle upon Tyne 28th Sep, complete paralysis lower limbs, Retention of urine, bedsores (says not too bad on a later page) on Buttocks, X-ray shows bullet lying in R Scapula, fracture of 4th D.. Vertebrae. (Will have to let Scrimnet look at original to decipher some of this!)...general condition "good".
It also says his former employment was warehouseman - but perhaps that was a mistake made in the field at some point?
His medical history says he was born in Cornwall (somewhere called Merthy? ). Enlisted in Camberwell, occupation Salesman in Clothings.
He was 5ft 6 1/4 weighed 160 lb, chest 36"... and had upper dentures,
22/1/17 - 4/4/17 he was in 2nd SG Bristol suffering from Myalgia - 73 days in hospital
After his death widow was awarded pension of 20/5 a week for her and their son. from 15/5/1918.
So he was a good soldier who was wounded in action and paralysed, sent back to Britain to hospital and died 1918.. No mention that I can see that he died due to his wounds. I am not too sure of the rules here....
....Would this mean he should appear as war dead and therefore be listed somewhere.... would he have had a wargrave or be remembered at CWGC??
Anyway - glad to have had the chance to read his papers and feel I've got to know him a little
Milly
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McBride (Monaghan & Manchester), Derbyshire (Bollington,Cheshire), Knight (Newcastle,Staffs), Smith (Chorley, Lancashire & Ireland), Tipladay (Manchester & Yorkshire) ,Steadman (Madeley,Shropshire), Steele (Manchester & Glasgow), Parkinson (Wigan, Lancashire), Lovatt, Cornes & Turner (Staffordshire) Stott (Oldham, Lancs). All ended up in Ardwick, Manchester - in Cotton Mills, Iron Works, or running pubs and corner shops. Census informatio is Crown Copyright http://www.nationalarchives.g |
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millymcb
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Here's the bit with his birthplace in case anyone can read it or recognises the name.... it should be in Truro district somewhere
Milly
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McBride (Monaghan & Manchester), Derbyshire (Bollington,Cheshire), Knight (Newcastle,Staffs), Smith (Chorley, Lancashire & Ireland), Tipladay (Manchester & Yorkshire) ,Steadman (Madeley,Shropshire), Steele (Manchester & Glasgow), Parkinson (Wigan, Lancashire), Lovatt, Cornes & Turner (Staffordshire) Stott (Oldham, Lancs). All ended up in Ardwick, Manchester - in Cotton Mills, Iron Works, or running pubs and corner shops. Census informatio is Crown Copyright http://www.nationalarchives.g |
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millymcb
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His medical papers seem to imply that other than being paralysed he was in good condition and needed no treatment after discharge...which possibly suggests that his death was not as a direct result of his injuries.
I wonder how strict they were about establishing direct cause at that time... ? And what would count as being directly attributable to injuries....?
eg if you were paralysed and fell down stairs because of it - then that would be death because of the injuries but would not be death directly due to the injuries??
I think a death cert would be very helpful here...
Perhaps Scrimnet will know -
Milly
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McBride (Monaghan & Manchester), Derbyshire (Bollington,Cheshire), Knight (Newcastle,Staffs), Smith (Chorley, Lancashire & Ireland), Tipladay (Manchester & Yorkshire) ,Steadman (Madeley,Shropshire), Steele (Manchester & Glasgow), Parkinson (Wigan, Lancashire), Lovatt, Cornes & Turner (Staffordshire) Stott (Oldham, Lancs). All ended up in Ardwick, Manchester - in Cotton Mills, Iron Works, or running pubs and corner shops. Census informatio is Crown Copyright http://www.nationalarchives.g |
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mmm45
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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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Could only find a couple of reference to Merthyr near Morvah in Cornwall.im sure thats what it says.
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forester
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Thanks Milly.
I'll have a good read and digest it this evening.
Death cert is the only way forward by the looks of it.
Possibly a flu victim? Whatever the cause, he does not appear on CWGC.
Thanks Ady.
I'm sure you've got the right place.
Phil
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millymcb
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Quite possibly flu or something like that...he probably wasn't very strong.
Milly
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McBride (Monaghan & Manchester), Derbyshire (Bollington,Cheshire), Knight (Newcastle,Staffs), Smith (Chorley, Lancashire & Ireland), Tipladay (Manchester & Yorkshire) ,Steadman (Madeley,Shropshire), Steele (Manchester & Glasgow), Parkinson (Wigan, Lancashire), Lovatt, Cornes & Turner (Staffordshire) Stott (Oldham, Lancs). All ended up in Ardwick, Manchester - in Cotton Mills, Iron Works, or running pubs and corner shops. Census informatio is Crown Copyright http://www.nationalarchives.g |
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scrimnet
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Quite possibly flu or something like that...he probably wasn't very strong.
Milly
Might not be the influenza epidemic....A bit early for that...That only came to prominence with the return of the troops.
He had blood poisoning (sepsis), incontinet of faeces, and was in retention of urine (very painful!)
He was also suffering from bed sores early on....These can lead to Gas Gangrene (I have seen and smelt this...once smelt never forgotten)...
With no antibiotics, this can lead to a slow, lingering and very smelly death...
If sent home, and paralysed, he would be unable to move either in a chair or in bed....This leads to pressure building up on certain points of the body, lack of blood supply and necrosis....
It has always been seen as a failure of Nursing care...The reason why "back rounds" were so popular in hospitals years ago...The pressure areas on the body were rubbed to increase the blood supply and thereby help prevent. Also patients were turned regularly to to prevent the build up...eg "hourly turns"
At home, and without the means to pay for care, it would not take too long for untrained people to not understand the requirements, and necrosis to build up and turn into something nasty....
Poor nutrition also pays a part...and if not strong, added to the wasting of his muscles, lack of ability to move, and suspect care....
This notwithstanding, many thus afflicted soldiers were cared for in large hospitals, and were given work...I have an example at home of some rather exquisite embroidery done...
It is labeled "Soldiers Embroidery Industry...Made by the totally disabled, 42 Ebury St"
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One more charge and then be dumb,
When the forts of Folly fall,
May the victors when they come
Find my body near the wall.
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