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Topic: 1851 + 1861 Look up please (Read 282 times)
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Biker
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Hi Jackie
Are you still looking for this information?
Regards Jonathan
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'Tricia
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Edith Gent Bowskill
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Because if you are this may well be them.
The family is recorded over 2 pages. On the first image the name looks like Thearl and on the second image it is spelt Thurl. Best of both worlds! The writing is difficult to read. Here we go.............
6, MacRemburgh Street St Pancras Middlesex
John Thearl 1820 Westminster, Middlesex, Head Goldsmith Maria Thearl 1823 Newington, Surrey, Wife John Thearl 1849 Islington, Middlesex, Son Ellen Thearl 1854 Islington, Middlesex, Daughter Maria Thurl 1855 St Pancras, Middlesex, Daughter George Thurl 1857 St Pancras, Middlesex, Son St Antin(Aubin)? Thurl 1860 New Cross, Surrey, Son Emma Dent abt 1843 St Pancras, Middlesex, Domestic Servant Angelina Fullersworth 1847 Blackheath Domestic Servant
RG9/106 Pancras Grays Inn Lane Folio 10 Page 16 Schedule 60
Tricia
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Census transcriptions are Crown Copyright from www.NationalArchives.gov.uk******************************************************** Nottinghamshire,Bulwell: Bowskill, Everley, Gent, Haywood, Houghton, Wilkinson. Nottinghamshire, Mansfield:- Baxter Buckinghamshire: Charlesworth, Fowler Derbyshire:Brimington:- Adams, Baxter London: Bird, Charlesworth, Coleman, Desmoulins, Everard, Jarman, Quinton, Richards Italy: Gioffredi
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'Tricia
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I did spot this birth which may account for the strange name above
THEARLE, St Aubyn Sleigh Birth Quarter ending March 1860 Greenwich 1d 586
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Census transcriptions are Crown Copyright from www.NationalArchives.gov.uk******************************************************** Nottinghamshire,Bulwell: Bowskill, Everley, Gent, Haywood, Houghton, Wilkinson. Nottinghamshire, Mansfield:- Baxter Buckinghamshire: Charlesworth, Fowler Derbyshire:Brimington:- Adams, Baxter London: Bird, Charlesworth, Coleman, Desmoulins, Everard, Jarman, Quinton, Richards Italy: Gioffredi
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tmaynez
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I happened upon your post through Google. Maria Chivers Thearle was my great grandmother, however she changed her name after her marriage to John Wesley. She actually went by Myra C Wesley. I am struggling with her father's birth information, as well as any other information I can find as they seem to be quite elusive. Finding these posts has helped and hopefully will provide other insight. I don't know whether you are still in search for the Thearle family, however if you have any helpful information concerning birth records for John Mott Thearle or his parents information, I would be very appreciative. I do know John Mott Thearle was a Goldsmith as well as a Mason.
Kind regards, Tish
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'Tricia
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If you send for this certificate it should give you John's father and the maiden name of Maria and her father's name
Marriage qrt ending qrt June 1848 John Mott Thearle W. London Vol 2 Page 226
There is a Maria Harding with the same reference number
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Census transcriptions are Crown Copyright from www.NationalArchives.gov.uk******************************************************** Nottinghamshire,Bulwell: Bowskill, Everley, Gent, Haywood, Houghton, Wilkinson. Nottinghamshire, Mansfield:- Baxter Buckinghamshire: Charlesworth, Fowler Derbyshire:Brimington:- Adams, Baxter London: Bird, Charlesworth, Coleman, Desmoulins, Everard, Jarman, Quinton, Richards Italy: Gioffredi
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'Tricia
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On the 1851 census we have
198 Fleet Street, St Dunstan, Westminster
John M Thearle Head 31 Goldsmith born Westminster Maria wife 26 born Middlesex Frederick L son 3 months born Middlesex Emma Fetter servant 16 born Middlesex
HO107/1527 Folio 203 Page 41
Also
Frederick Leake Thearle birth qrt ending Dec 1850 St Lukes Vol2 Page 332
Frederick Leake Thearle Death qrt ending Mar 1852 Vol 1c Page 58
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Census transcriptions are Crown Copyright from www.NationalArchives.gov.uk******************************************************** Nottinghamshire,Bulwell: Bowskill, Everley, Gent, Haywood, Houghton, Wilkinson. Nottinghamshire, Mansfield:- Baxter Buckinghamshire: Charlesworth, Fowler Derbyshire:Brimington:- Adams, Baxter London: Bird, Charlesworth, Coleman, Desmoulins, Everard, Jarman, Quinton, Richards Italy: Gioffredi
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'Tricia
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Now it would be good if we could find John Thearle born 1849 Islington with one of his granparents in 1851 but I haven't been able to spot him as yet
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Census transcriptions are Crown Copyright from www.NationalArchives.gov.uk******************************************************** Nottinghamshire,Bulwell: Bowskill, Everley, Gent, Haywood, Houghton, Wilkinson. Nottinghamshire, Mansfield:- Baxter Buckinghamshire: Charlesworth, Fowler Derbyshire:Brimington:- Adams, Baxter London: Bird, Charlesworth, Coleman, Desmoulins, Everard, Jarman, Quinton, Richards Italy: Gioffredi
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'Tricia
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I notice that you are on Ancestry showing this family tree
You do seem to have the information???
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Census transcriptions are Crown Copyright from www.NationalArchives.gov.uk******************************************************** Nottinghamshire,Bulwell: Bowskill, Everley, Gent, Haywood, Houghton, Wilkinson. Nottinghamshire, Mansfield:- Baxter Buckinghamshire: Charlesworth, Fowler Derbyshire:Brimington:- Adams, Baxter London: Bird, Charlesworth, Coleman, Desmoulins, Everard, Jarman, Quinton, Richards Italy: Gioffredi
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tmaynez
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I just looked for 1851 census data for John in hopes he may have been mentioned with his grandparents Harding. I have the 1851 for Harding however he was not in it. I have not found the data for Thearle. I will continue to search for 1851 and 1861 and post what I find.
Thank you for your help, Tish Maynez
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tmaynez
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I searched and found them in the 1861 census as you'd mentioned in the chat, however the address was eluding me as I searched on current maps of St Pancras. I found the record with the help you provided, so thank you very much. They lived at 60 Mecklenburgh Street in St Pancras. (You are right, the handwriting is hard to read.)
Thanks so much for your help, Tricia.
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