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jackiedillimore
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1851 + 1861 Look up please
« on: Friday 18 February 05 11:41 UTC (UK) »

Could anyone please help me with a look up in the 1851 + 1861 census, for my THEARLE / THARLE / THURL family. I am looking for:

John Mott Thearle and his family wifes name possibly  Catherine / Maria or  Emily

John born 1849 Islington
Ellen born 1853 West London
Anna Maria born 1860 Islington
There could be more children?

They should be in the Islington area.

Any help would be greatfully recieved
Jackie
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DILLIMORE / DELAMORE/ or any of the 22 Variants ( Anywhere )
THEARLE ( Marylebone / London )
BODDY ( Buckinghamshire / Middlesex / Berkshire/ Oxfordshire )
BARBER ( Norwich / Norfolk )
FEARNLEY ( Norfolk )
GREENGRASS ( Norfolk )
HORNIGOLD / HORNAGOLD ( Norfolk )
ING  ( Buckinghamshire / Middlesex )
GRIFFIN ( Bristol  / Shoreditch / Bethnal Green )
GREGORY ( Gloucestershire / Warwickshire / Middlesex )
BLACKOLLEY / BLACKHOLLY / BLACKELY( Shoreditch / London )
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Re: 1851 + 1861 Look up please
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 14 June 05 21:57 UTC (UK) »

Hi Jackie

Are you still looking for this information?

Regards
Jonathan
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Re: 1851 + 1861 Look up please
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 14 June 05 22:24 UTC (UK) »

Because if you are this may well be them.

The family is recorded over 2 pages. On the first image the name looks like Thearl and on the second image it is spelt Thurl. Best of both worlds! The writing is difficult to read.
Here we go.............


6, MacRemburgh Street St Pancras Middlesex

John Thearl  1820  Westminster, Middlesex,  Head  Goldsmith
Maria Thearl  1823  Newington, Surrey,  Wife 
John Thearl  1849  Islington, Middlesex,  Son 
Ellen Thearl  1854  Islington, Middlesex,  Daughter
Maria Thurl  1855  St Pancras, Middlesex,  Daughter
George Thurl  1857  St Pancras, Middlesex,  Son
St Antin(Aubin)? Thurl  1860  New Cross, Surrey,  Son
Emma Dent abt 1843  St Pancras, Middlesex, Domestic Servant
Angelina Fullersworth 1847  Blackheath Domestic Servant


RG9/106 Pancras Grays Inn Lane Folio 10 Page 16
Schedule 60

Tricia
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Nottinghamshire,Bulwell: Bowskill, Everley, Gent, Haywood, Houghton, Wilkinson.
Nottinghamshire, Mansfield:- Baxter
Buckinghamshire: Charlesworth, Fowler
Derbyshire:Brimington:- Adams, Baxter
London: Bird, Charlesworth, Coleman, Desmoulins, Everard, Jarman, Quinton, Richards
Italy: Gioffredi
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Re: 1851 + 1861 Look up please
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 14 June 05 22:29 UTC (UK) »

I did spot this birth which may account for the strange name above

 
THEARLE, St Aubyn Sleigh
Birth Quarter ending March 1860
Greenwich
1d
586
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Nottinghamshire,Bulwell: Bowskill, Everley, Gent, Haywood, Houghton, Wilkinson.
Nottinghamshire, Mansfield:- Baxter
Buckinghamshire: Charlesworth, Fowler
Derbyshire:Brimington:- Adams, Baxter
London: Bird, Charlesworth, Coleman, Desmoulins, Everard, Jarman, Quinton, Richards
Italy: Gioffredi
jackiedillimore
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Re: 1851 + 1861 Look up please
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 16 June 05 04:43 UTC (UK) »

Hi TriciaQ,

Brilliant!!!! Thank you so much for the information, this family have been very illusive. Its great finally for someone to find them, i had almost given up hope.
Thanks again for all your help it is very much appreciated

Jackie
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DILLIMORE / DELAMORE/ or any of the 22 Variants ( Anywhere )
THEARLE ( Marylebone / London )
BODDY ( Buckinghamshire / Middlesex / Berkshire/ Oxfordshire )
BARBER ( Norwich / Norfolk )
FEARNLEY ( Norfolk )
GREENGRASS ( Norfolk )
HORNIGOLD / HORNAGOLD ( Norfolk )
ING  ( Buckinghamshire / Middlesex )
GRIFFIN ( Bristol  / Shoreditch / Bethnal Green )
GREGORY ( Gloucestershire / Warwickshire / Middlesex )
BLACKOLLEY / BLACKHOLLY / BLACKELY( Shoreditch / London )
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Re: 1851 + 1861 Look up please
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 20 October 09 20:51 UTC (UK) »

I happened upon your post through Google.  Maria Chivers Thearle was my great grandmother, however she changed her name after her marriage to John Wesley.  She actually went by Myra C Wesley.  I am struggling with her father's birth information, as well as any other information I can find as they seem to be quite elusive.  Finding these posts has helped and hopefully will provide other insight.  I don't know whether you are still in search for the Thearle family, however if you have any helpful information concerning birth records for John Mott Thearle or his parents information, I would be very appreciative.  I do know John Mott Thearle was a Goldsmith as well as a Mason.

Kind regards,
Tish
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Re: 1851 + 1861 Look up please
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 29 October 09 13:46 UTC (UK) »

If you send for this certificate it should give you John's father and the maiden name of Maria and her father's name


Marriage qrt ending qrt June 1848
John Mott Thearle
W. London Vol 2 Page 226

There is a Maria Harding with the same reference number
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Nottinghamshire,Bulwell: Bowskill, Everley, Gent, Haywood, Houghton, Wilkinson.
Nottinghamshire, Mansfield:- Baxter
Buckinghamshire: Charlesworth, Fowler
Derbyshire:Brimington:- Adams, Baxter
London: Bird, Charlesworth, Coleman, Desmoulins, Everard, Jarman, Quinton, Richards
Italy: Gioffredi
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Re: 1851 + 1861 Look up please
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 29 October 09 13:53 UTC (UK) »

On the 1851 census we have

198 Fleet Street, St Dunstan, Westminster

John M Thearle Head 31 Goldsmith born Westminster
Maria wife 26 born Middlesex
Frederick L son 3 months born Middlesex
Emma Fetter servant 16 born Middlesex

HO107/1527 Folio 203 Page 41

Also

Frederick Leake Thearle
birth qrt ending Dec 1850
St Lukes Vol2 Page 332

Frederick Leake Thearle
Death qrt ending Mar 1852
Vol 1c Page 58
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Nottinghamshire,Bulwell: Bowskill, Everley, Gent, Haywood, Houghton, Wilkinson.
Nottinghamshire, Mansfield:- Baxter
Buckinghamshire: Charlesworth, Fowler
Derbyshire:Brimington:- Adams, Baxter
London: Bird, Charlesworth, Coleman, Desmoulins, Everard, Jarman, Quinton, Richards
Italy: Gioffredi
'Tricia
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Edith Gent Bowskill


Re: 1851 + 1861 Look up please
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 29 October 09 14:00 UTC (UK) »

Now it would be good if we could find John Thearle born 1849 Islington with one of his granparents in 1851 but I haven't been able to spot him as yet Sad
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Nottinghamshire,Bulwell: Bowskill, Everley, Gent, Haywood, Houghton, Wilkinson.
Nottinghamshire, Mansfield:- Baxter
Buckinghamshire: Charlesworth, Fowler
Derbyshire:Brimington:- Adams, Baxter
London: Bird, Charlesworth, Coleman, Desmoulins, Everard, Jarman, Quinton, Richards
Italy: Gioffredi
'Tricia
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Re: 1851 + 1861 Look up please
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 29 October 09 14:46 UTC (UK) »

I notice that you are on Ancestry showing this family tree

You do seem to have the information???
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Nottinghamshire,Bulwell: Bowskill, Everley, Gent, Haywood, Houghton, Wilkinson.
Nottinghamshire, Mansfield:- Baxter
Buckinghamshire: Charlesworth, Fowler
Derbyshire:Brimington:- Adams, Baxter
London: Bird, Charlesworth, Coleman, Desmoulins, Everard, Jarman, Quinton, Richards
Italy: Gioffredi
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Re: 1851 + 1861 Look up please
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 03 November 09 14:09 UTC (UK) »

I just looked for 1851 census data for John in hopes he may have been mentioned with his grandparents Harding.  I have the 1851 for Harding however he was not in it.  I have not found the data for Thearle.  I will continue to search for 1851 and 1861 and post what I find.

Thank you for your help,
Tish Maynez
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Re: 1851 + 1861 Look up please
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 07 November 09 22:28 UTC (UK) »

I searched and found them in the 1861 census as you'd mentioned in the chat, however the address was eluding me as I searched on current maps of St Pancras.  I found the record with the help you provided, so thank you very much.  They lived at 60 Mecklenburgh Street in St Pancras. (You are right, the handwriting is hard to read.)

Thanks so much for your help, Tricia.
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