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Willison
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Limerick query
« on: Thursday 02 April 09 15:34 UTC (UK) »
Sorry if this is a rather obvious question, but was there a census in Ireland in 1881? If not, when was the nearest ones before and after that year? Cheers!  Smiley
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Re: Irish Census News
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 02 April 09 16:36 UTC (UK) »
1901 is the oldest surviving complete Irish census. Small fragments and extracts are all the remain for earlier years.

see this link for notes on this and on the census substitutes used : http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,37465.0.html



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Re: Irish Census News
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 02 April 09 19:53 UTC (UK) »
Thanks for the feedback Shanew. Being new to this I am still finding my way around the board and it can be quite daunting. In a nutshell, how do you rate my chances that I will find a census return for a family who lived in Limerick (North Strand) from about 1878 to 1882? Cheers!
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Re: Irish Census News
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 02 April 09 20:42 UTC (UK) »
Quote from: Willison on Thursday 02 April 09 19:53 UTC (UK)
Thanks for the feedback Shanew. Being new to this I am still finding my way around the board and it can be quite daunting. In a nutshell, how do you rate my chances that I will find a census return for a family who lived in Limerick (North Strand) from about 1878 to 1882? Cheers!

No County Limerick census records survive for 1871 and 1881.
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Re: Irish Census News
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 02 April 09 20:47 UTC (UK) »
I would recommend posting directly to the Limerick forum (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/board,68.0.html) with any information you have.

Full Irish Civil records began in 1864 (non-Catholic marriage registration began in 1845) so that is the place to start. The LDS familysearch website has a pilot Irish Civil Index which can be used to find reference details for BMD records.

The Limerick library website has census index details for 1901 and 1911.



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Re: Irish Census News
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 02 April 09 20:52 UTC (UK) »
The problem is they were in Ireland such a short period. It's already been discussed here and suggestions were given regarding birth certificates.
www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,369182.msg2442672.html#msg2442672
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LimerickLad
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Re: Limerick query
« Reply #6 on: Friday 03 April 09 12:25 UTC (UK) »
Limerick City Trades Register 1769-1925
Record details


Record Details:#48335
Surname Willison
Forename James
Trade Engineers
Address Shannon View Terrace (North Strand)
RegYear 1880
Directory Bassett
Page 90
Notes engineer, Limerick Distillery

Are you aware of this above

http://www.limerick.ie/webapps/tradesreg
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Willison
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Re: Limerick query
« Reply #7 on: Friday 03 April 09 12:55 UTC (UK) »
No I wasn't Limericklad - well done!
I knew he lived in North Strand (but not the street name)and had two sons born in '78 and '80 while living in Limerick. I knew from tracing his movements in Scotland he was an engineer but your info tells me exactly where he worked while in Limerick (I've had to guess all other employers/places of work).
Many thanks for your help!  Smiley

Now to push my luck - are Limerick Distillery and Shannon View Terrace still in existence?
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Re: Limerick query
« Reply #8 on: Friday 03 April 09 22:08 UTC (UK) »
Here is a link to a very nice article in the Limerick Journal about Limerick Distillery http://www.limerick.ie/media/Media,4049,en.pdf if the link dosnt work just google Limerick Distillery and you will find it. Sadly the Distillery is long gone but Shannon View Terrace still exists

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Willison
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Re: Limerick query
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 04 April 09 09:16 UTC (UK) »
Thank-you very much for the article Margaret.   Smiley
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Re: Limerick query
« Reply #10 on: Monday 06 April 09 07:42 UTC (UK) »
Hi

Margaret was on the ball there!  If you are interested, I'll try to get you a photo of Shannon View Tce when I'm out and about , although it doesn't give a house number in the Trade Directory.

Regards

Tom
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Willison
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Re: Limerick query
« Reply #11 on: Monday 06 April 09 13:09 UTC (UK) »
I'd greatly appreciate it if you got the time to take a photo. Cheers Tom!  Smiley
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Re: Limerick query
« Reply #12 on: Monday 11 May 09 15:02 UTC (UK) »
Apologies for keeping you waiting,  Here is a shot of nos 1-3  and 4-5

* shannon_view_tce_1-3.JPG (194.55 KB, 1000x750 - viewed 118 times.)

* shannon_view_tce.JPG (227.99 KB, 1000x750 - viewed 115 times.)
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Willison
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Re: Limerick query
« Reply #13 on: Monday 11 May 09 15:14 UTC (UK) »
Many thanks for taking the time to take the photos, Tom.

If there's ever anything I can photograph or look up for you in central Scotland for you then let me know. If I can help, I will.
Cheers!  Smiley
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Re: Limerick query
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 12 May 09 07:44 UTC (UK) »
No problem, number 4, the double fronted house was a police station, so he would have lived in the one of the other ones.  He would have had a very short walk to the distillery.

The attached would be the view accross the river to King John's castle.  The area is now called Clancy Strand (formerly North Strand

* king_johns_castle.JPG (249.64 KB, 1000x750 - viewed 109 times.)
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