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jan44
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Re: LIVERPOOL COWKEEPERS
« Reply #15 on: Saturday 18 April 09 07:31 UTC (UK) »

 Grin

Hi Mary,

Thanks for the comment on the pic, the house painted red next door is my old place, the old cow shed was part of my back yard wall!  All the houses on that side of Keble besides the old cowkeepers place and another house the other end, are all boarded up and waiting for demolition now, such a shame, a lot of history being lost and destroyed.

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Re: LIVERPOOL COWKEEPERS
« Reply #16 on: Saturday 18 April 09 23:25 UTC (UK) »

My Grandfather Thomas Mawer was a cowkeeper at 3 Dalton Street, near to where the Royal Liverpool Hospital is now. 

His family originally came from Lancashire/Yorkshire border area, apparently there were quite a lot of them in Liverpool, West Derby area.
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Re: LIVERPOOL COWKEEPERS
« Reply #17 on: Monday 20 April 09 07:50 UTC (UK) »

A big thank you to all who have responded to my post, It's all helping to build up a picture.

Michael
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Re: LIVERPOOL COWKEEPERS
« Reply #18 on: Thursday 23 April 09 12:03 UTC (UK) »

Just thought I would stick in my twopeneth!. Prewar and just after there was a small dairy in Glamis Road just opposite where Witton Road meets it. Glamis is off Marlborough Rd, Tuebrook.
There was a small field and quite a big shippen which was behind the shop. They did the bottle washing and filling in sheds in a yard. Bottles had those deadly cardboard caps.
There were six cows which lived in the field and were brought into the shippen for milking and extra feed from hay which was on the 2nd. floor and fed through trap doors  to the cows. Also upthere they had sacks of cowcake and a barrel of molasses or treacle - delicious.
The family was Mr and Mrs Taylor and a son about 8 I think.
The only smell I remember was warm milk. After the war Police houses were built on the field which I think are still there. I lived in Montrose Rd.
I also new a family name of Tudor with a dairy in Cherry Lane but don't know the details.
Happily I am still TB free. Alan Williams
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Re: LIVERPOOL COWKEEPERS
« Reply #19 on: Thursday 23 April 09 12:07 UTC (UK) »

I am glad someone mentioned the TB problem.  I wondered how much these dairies up all over the country were responsible of the spread of TB.  My mother came to Liverpool from Newfoundland.  Her family had a similar set-up to the cowkeepers back in Newfoundland and TB was rife.  Many member of her family alone died from it - Jackie
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Re: LIVERPOOL COWKEEPERS
« Reply #20 on: Thursday 23 April 09 16:46 UTC (UK) »

hello

You've reminded me that my GF got TB and so went back to the cleaner air of Westmorland.

Michael
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Re: LIVERPOOL COWKEEPERS
« Reply #21 on: Thursday 23 April 09 17:51 UTC (UK) »

O dear!  I was being frivolous but now I remember that a girl from our sunday school whose family had a dairy got TB age about 15. She was in Fazakerley isolation hospital for about 6 months I think and I think is still going strong so I wont mention her name. Alan Williams
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Re: LIVERPOOL COWKEEPERS
« Reply #22 on: Friday 24 April 09 07:27 UTC (UK) »

Grandad lived ti be 78 and was very active as I remember.
Michael
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Re: LIVERPOOL COWKEEPERS
« Reply #23 on: Monday 27 April 09 17:29 UTC (UK) »

I'm sure in my search for Moneypennys someone told me there had been a Moneypenny Dairy, probably in the Everton area of Liverpool.  I've never managed to find any trace of it so if you come across it in your research, I'd appreciate any news.

Thanks.
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Re: LIVERPOOL COWKEEPERS
« Reply #24 on: Wednesday 03 June 09 08:19 UTC (UK) »

Just to let people know ;- there is an article in the latest (june 2009) liverpool Family History journal about cowkeepers in Liverpool which covers and expands on things mentioned. It mentions Capstick's dairy at the Tuebrook end of Marlborough Rd. which I remember too as my brother was pals with their son born about 1931 who also went to Lister Drive school as far as I remember.
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Re: LIVERPOOL COWKEEPERS
« Reply #25 on: Wednesday 03 June 09 12:10 UTC (UK) »

I have just looked at the Trades section of Green's Directory of Liverpool, 1870, and there are 88 names under Dairymen and Cowkeepers.
I can copy the list for anyone wanting more - send me your email address by PM.
There were still plenty around in the 1930s and 40s and even later, with a few cows, a dairy and [usually horse] delivery rounds, but most have gone the way of most small businesses.
I await the Liverpool FHS journal with interest.
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Re: LIVERPOOL COWKEEPERS
« Reply #26 on: Sunday 07 June 09 10:12 UTC (UK) »

I'm sure in my search for Moneypennys someone told me there had been a Moneypenny Dairy, probably in the Everton area of Liverpool.  I've never managed to find any trace of it so if you come across it in your research, I'd appreciate any news.

Thanks.

Moneypennys was on the corner of the street (opposite St Georges Street) on Netherfield Road!

I can't remember it being a Dairy, but they did have large back Gates (which would be were the Cow/Cows were kept!).
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Re: LIVERPOOL COWKEEPERS
« Reply #27 on: Sunday 07 June 09 10:16 UTC (UK) »

Another bit of Misc 'Cowkeeper' Info (sort of):

Prince Alfred Road, Wavertree used to be called 'Cowslip Lane' until it was renamed shortly before one of Queen Victorias Children was due to pay a visit to stay with a friend who lived there, the local council thought it better to change the name (to save any embarrasment!
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Re: LIVERPOOL COWKEEPERS
« Reply #28 on: Wednesday 01 July 09 19:50 UTC (UK) »

<quote>Moneypennys was on the corner of the street (opposite St Georges Street) on Netherfield Road!

I can't remember it being a Dairy, but they did have large back Gates (which would be were the Cow/Cows were kept!). <quote>

Hi Pegasuss,

Only just noticed your reply but thanks for the info.

This was my Great Uncle Albert's shop (christened as Richard!) and it was a grocery shop.  My Dad, Matthew worked there as a young lad and took me to see it once but it was closed.  I have a photo of it from the Liverpool Records Office when it was the only building left standing in that area!

MissM
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Re: LIVERPOOL COWKEEPERS
« Reply #29 on: Wednesday 01 July 09 22:00 UTC (UK) »

MissM.

Small World!

My Mother used to help out in the shop (a few times a week, for @1-2Hrs).

We used to get given a free Ice cream (on a Stick) by the Owner/Manager when we went in. (C1959-61).  Tongue Wink Grin
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