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Topic: Is this a Royal Navy Cap Badge (Read 864 times)
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Pete Keane
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So not the Boer war then....
I'm still going to go for earlier rather then later. The size of the Ich Dien typeface and thinness of line above it are swaying me that way.
Were the Home Guard attached to a specific local regiment (if so i assume it would be the 6th Bn, Home Duties?) or were they autonamous, I havent started looking for them yet !
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Pete Keane
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In relation to the original post, Ox & Bucks does look most promising.
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Pete Keane
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So I would be right in thinking that the Home Guard were an autonomous organisation, who adopted the badge of the local regiment in which they were based, but were not part of that regiment.
Did they have a shoulder flash (or similar) which denoted them as Home Guard.
The economy badge, thats brown & brown as opposed to differing bi-metal colours?
Although I can see that the badges are virtually the same for each period, there are minor differences in lettering size, thickness of certain details etc. I have put this down to them being from different manufacturers, and I have also come across some reproduction badges.
The badge in the photo has been very well polished and has lost a fair amount of detail, were the medals likewise so well polished?
Scrimnet, if by any chance you have details of 2nd Bn movements from arrival in India I would be most grateful, they appear to be swallowed up and then re-appera in February 1945 (Irrawaddy Crossing) where they are described as 'newly arrived'! Very little info. on the net and even less in print, and Prestons a long way for me to go...
Regards
Pete.
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Salford Lass
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Hi Guys
Still looking into this one, Pete reading your last post, we have no medals lol, so wouldn't know if they were polished or not (highley I mean).
We have gone back a generation and am now looking at other possibles, but I still think its WW2.
If I find anything I will post it here.
Debbie
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Melbourne (manchester)
Wall (derbyshire and Salford, Manchester)
Delaunay (Rouen, France and Blackley, Manchester)
Morris (Ireland, Bolton and Manchester)
Crompton (Bolton)
Hutchins (Yorkshire and Manchester)
Howcroft (Leigh and Irlam)
Darbyshire (Warrington and Irlam)
Daintith (Warrington and Culcheth)
Whittaker (Irlam and Manchester)
Holcroft (Croft and Irlam)
Dennsison (Ireland, Yorkshire and Manchester)
Edwards (Abergavenny and Salford)
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scrimnet
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No plan ever survives first contact...
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So I would be right in thinking that the Home Guard were an autonomous organisation, who adopted the badge of the local regiment in which they were based, but were not part of that regiment.
Did they have a shoulder flash (or similar) which denoted them as Home Guard.
The economy badge, thats brown & brown as opposed to differing bi-metal colours?
Although I can see that the badges are virtually the same for each period, there are minor differences in lettering size, thickness of certain details etc. I have put this down to them being from different manufacturers, and I have also come across some reproduction badges.
The badge in the photo has been very well polished and has lost a fair amount of detail, were the medals likewise so well polished?
Scrimnet, if by any chance you have details of 2nd Bn movements from arrival in India I would be most grateful, they appear to be swallowed up and then re-appera in February 1945 (Irrawaddy Crossing) where they are described as 'newly arrived'! Very little info. on the net and even less in print, and Prestons a long way for me to go...
Regards
Pete.
Yes the HG were quite autonomous...
Yes, I have oodles of variants on the Northamptonshire cap badge, and a lot of them are from differing makers and molds.
I could be Boer War...I did a typo earlier with the 1902...  I have corrected to 1898
Some repros are actually not...A lot of Regts in India had locally sourced and made items from the "choggie shops"...
As for the movements of 2 SLancs,
Here's what I have...
1939 Bombay
1940.June UK 29 Inf Bde
1942.Mar.21 at sea 29 Bde, Force 121
1942.Apr.22 South Africa 29 Bde, Force 121
1942.Apr.28 at sea 29 Bde, Force 121
1942.May.05 Madagascar 29 Bde, Force 121
1942.Aug.20 at sea
1942.Aug.26 East Africa 29 Bde, Force 121
1942.Sept.05 at sea
1942.Sept.10 Madagascar 29 Bde, Force 121
1942.Oct.16 at sea 29 Bde
1942.Ocy.24 South Africa 29 Bde
1943.Jan.08 at sea
1943.Jan.26 India
1944.April Burma 7 Ind Div
1945 UK
1946 Malta
1947 Trieste
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One more charge and then be dumb,
When the forts of Folly fall,
May the victors when they come
Find my body near the wall.
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Pete Keane
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Thanks for that Scrimnet, I really am going to have to go to the museum.
Debbie, I have ordered extracts from the army lists/harts , but they only cover Officers/Nco's, so if the owner was an infantryman then it wont help, I will look for darbyshire in the first instance.
Regards
Pete.
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Pete Keane
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Hi Debbie,
The South Lancs barracks was the Orford Barracks, in Warrington - this was Lancashire, but following the boundary changes (1974?) became part of Cheshire.
The two lads would have been 28/25 at the time of the first world war, so this would be a first approach, there is no record on the regimental list but as mentioned, this would only show them if officers.
I will have a look on the web tonight and see what I can find.
Regards
Pete.
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