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Aussie_trekkie
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Kevin Martin Irish Olympic Team 1952
Martin Family Dublin
« on: Friday 03 April 09 15:55 UTC (UK) »
I am looking for the Grandfather of Eamon Martin born 1892. Eamon was a veteran of 1916 . His father was John Martin born in Dublin 1853/54 I have this family in the 1911 census but I am looking to go back to his Grandfather who was also John . I have tried the IFHF paid for 10 searches but it is such a rip off compared with other countries. The information I found was sparse and I am not sure which part of Dublin the family were in,North or South so it was a waste of money. I found only 1, John 1854 in Kingston who's father's name was also John but thats all the information I could get for my money
I am trying to link Eamon to Mother Mary Martin as I was told they were cousins. Anyone got any idea where I can look I live in Western Australia
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Re: Martin Family Dublin
« Reply #1 on: Friday 03 April 09 15:57 UTC (UK) »
just to note - the IFHF system does not contain Dublin City parish records at the moment, just parts of South and North county Dublin.


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Re: Martin Family Dublin
« Reply #2 on: Friday 03 April 09 16:00 UTC (UK) »
Thank you thats a big help as can maybe find somemore John Martin'sin Dublin City any idea where the best place to look is. Pity IFHF  don't tell you before they take your money!
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Re: Martin Family Dublin
« Reply #3 on: Friday 03 April 09 16:06 UTC (UK) »
a few Dublin City parish records  are available on http://dublinheritage.ie - other than that the best source for Parish  records is on microfilm at the National Library. I believe some can be ordered at LDS centres outside Ireland.

Do you have any other clues to the Martin family ?




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Wilson : Cambridgeshire [Chatteris], Yorkshire [Leeds], Dublin & Australia [Sydney/NSW] | Fitzsimon : Bray, Co. Wicklow & South Co. Dublin
Hayes, Shepherd, Bickerdike, Render, Harper : Yorkshire | Doyle, Dillon, Cantwell, Roach, Clarke  : Co. Wicklow
Cathcart, Wilson : Kings Co./Offaly, Dublin City & N. Ireland | Hodges : Bristol, Glos./Bray Co. Wicklow/Dublin City | Nevin : Cork
Sheridan : Dublin City | Kavanagh, Rooney, Clarke, Hughes, May, Monks : North Co. Dublin  [Rush/Thomastown]
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Re: Martin Family Dublin
« Reply #4 on: Friday 03 April 09 16:22 UTC (UK) »
Yes, Eamon  is well document, but his older brother  my Gf John disowned him ,something to do with marrying outside of his faith . The story I heard is that Eamon married into the Jewish faith ,he was married in the Pepper Canister in Baggot st. Not sure if that is Jewish or not? When Iwas a child I visited the Medicial Missionaries of Mary Hospital and my parents wer given a tour,we had a visitor from the vatican and the sister were all excited.Did the whole high tea thingthen the tour ,I was only 7 or 8 at the time but i have a vivid memory of it.We came to the childrens ward and the ward had a dedication plaque with Eamon Martin as the benefactor . When the sister asked if my dad was any relation of Eamon Martin and he said Eamon was his Uncle she then said we too must be cousins of Mother Mary,that Eamon and MMM were 2nd or 3rd cousins.  My Dad was Kevin Martin the Irish Olympic Boxer 1848 and 1952. His mum was an O'Byrne ,and there was a lane way off Pearse St called Dan O'Byrnes Lane which is supposed to be called after her father who was born in Dublin in 1857. I paid Eirclann to do research but all the really did was confirm the information I had given them.
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Re: Martin Family Dublin
« Reply #5 on: Friday 03 April 09 16:26 UTC (UK) »
I think the Pepper Canister Church is Church of Ireland.. I'm sure there are articles online about it.

hopefully Dublin City will join in with the IFHF and we will be able to access the record online...

I've a few to follow up in Dublin City .. too many parish to do manually!



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Hayes, Shepherd, Bickerdike, Render, Harper : Yorkshire | Doyle, Dillon, Cantwell, Roach, Clarke  : Co. Wicklow
Cathcart, Wilson : Kings Co./Offaly, Dublin City & N. Ireland | Hodges : Bristol, Glos./Bray Co. Wicklow/Dublin City | Nevin : Cork
Sheridan : Dublin City | Kavanagh, Rooney, Clarke, Hughes, May, Monks : North Co. Dublin  [Rush/Thomastown]
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Re: Martin Family Dublin
« Reply #6 on: Friday 03 April 09 16:28 UTC (UK) »
Thanks Shane
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Re: Martin Family Dublin
« Reply #7 on: Monday 20 April 09 15:27 UTC (UK) »
Just thought I would let everyone know how well this site works ,I have made contact with the great grandchildren of Eamon Martin and we are meeting when I get back to Ireland in June . It was amazing I had contact from two family members on the same day and neither knew the other had  found me. Thank you for thsi great site.
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Re: Martin Family Dublin
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 03 May 09 16:34 UTC (UK) »
I have found that John Martin borni n Dublin in 1854 was listed on the marriage cert of his son as a waiter. Can anyone look in the 1851 census and see if they can find him. There are quite a few John Martin's so I am trying to find him this way.
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Re: Martin Family Dublin
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 28 June 09 05:31 UTC (UK) »
Looking for John Martin married to Charlotte . They were born sometime in the 1820's and should have married in the 40's or early 50's. John may be the son of Patrick Martin . Can anyone look up for me Thanks
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Re: Martin Family Dublin
« Reply #10 on: Friday 21 August 09 10:23 UTC (UK) »
Martin family of Dublin has been difficult to research.  Related or not?

Alexander Macaulay (1819-1849) of Cushendall, Co. Antrim m. 1848 at Rathfarnham Church, Dublin to Maria Martin, dau of John Martin of Air Hill, Rathgar.

They had one son, also an Alexander.  Their son m. Emily Rotherham, dau of George A. Rotherham, High Sheriff of Co. Meath.
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Re: Martin Family Dublin
« Reply #11 on: Friday 21 August 09 12:37 UTC (UK) »
Quote from: Aussie_trekkie on Sunday 03 May 09 16:34 UTC (UK)
I have found that John Martin borni n Dublin in 1854 was listed on the marriage cert of his son as a waiter. Can anyone look in the 1851 census and see if they can find him. There are quite a few John Martin's so I am trying to find him this way.

The 1851 census is an extract of just the city area and only includes names of heads of household and address - no age or occupation details were extracted.

these are the adresses of the John Martins listed :

 9 Cornmarket   
 45 Gardiner St. Lower   
 12 Church St. New   

there are also over 20 listed as Jno. Martin, the usual abbreviation for John - will I post the full list ?



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Hayes, Shepherd, Bickerdike, Render, Harper : Yorkshire | Doyle, Dillon, Cantwell, Roach, Clarke  : Co. Wicklow
Cathcart, Wilson : Kings Co./Offaly, Dublin City & N. Ireland | Hodges : Bristol, Glos./Bray Co. Wicklow/Dublin City | Nevin : Cork
Sheridan : Dublin City | Kavanagh, Rooney, Clarke, Hughes, May, Monks : North Co. Dublin  [Rush/Thomastown]
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Re: Martin Family Dublin
« Reply #12 on: Friday 21 August 09 12:39 UTC (UK) »
Yes please
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Re: Martin Family Dublin
« Reply #13 on: Friday 21 August 09 12:46 UTC (UK) »
Quote from: pablo1 on Friday 21 August 09 10:23 UTC (UK)
Martin family of Dublin has been difficult to research.  Related or not?

Alexander Macaulay (1819-1849) of Cushendall, Co. Antrim m. 1848 at Rathfarnham Church, Dublin to Maria Martin, dau of John Martin of Air Hill, Rathgar.

They had one son, also an Alexander.  Their son m. Emily Rotherham, dau of George A. Rotherham, High Sheriff of Co. Meath.

I cant see any sign of an 'Air Hill' in Rathgar around the 1850s - but in later years (1870/80) there is an Airfield Terrace and cottages in Rathgar..

I found an Airhill, and Airhill terrace in Kingstown (Dún Laoghaire) and an Airhill (house) in Loughlinstown - near to Shankill.

Of the listing I saw the closest to Rathgar would be

  Mrs. Delaney Air Park, Scholarstown, Rathfarnham (src:Thom's 1850)

I also found a possible Rotherham connection in Slaters-1846
In the nobility, gentry, clergy section for Castle-pollard, Co. Westmeath

  Geo. Rotherhams, Esq. Sally Mount

link to the directory : http://www.failteromhat.com/slater.htm
Castlepollard page : http://www.failteromhat.com/slater/0363.pdf


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Hayes, Shepherd, Bickerdike, Render, Harper : Yorkshire | Doyle, Dillon, Cantwell, Roach, Clarke  : Co. Wicklow
Cathcart, Wilson : Kings Co./Offaly, Dublin City & N. Ireland | Hodges : Bristol, Glos./Bray Co. Wicklow/Dublin City | Nevin : Cork
Sheridan : Dublin City | Kavanagh, Rooney, Clarke, Hughes, May, Monks : North Co. Dublin  [Rush/Thomastown]
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Re: Martin Family Dublin
« Reply #14 on: Friday 21 August 09 14:58 UTC (UK) »
Quote from: Aussie_trekkie on Friday 21 August 09 12:39 UTC (UK)
Yes please
have sent you a pm with the details..


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Wilson : Cambridgeshire [Chatteris], Yorkshire [Leeds], Dublin & Australia [Sydney/NSW] | Fitzsimon : Bray, Co. Wicklow & South Co. Dublin
Hayes, Shepherd, Bickerdike, Render, Harper : Yorkshire | Doyle, Dillon, Cantwell, Roach, Clarke  : Co. Wicklow
Cathcart, Wilson : Kings Co./Offaly, Dublin City & N. Ireland | Hodges : Bristol, Glos./Bray Co. Wicklow/Dublin City | Nevin : Cork
Sheridan : Dublin City | Kavanagh, Rooney, Clarke, Hughes, May, Monks : North Co. Dublin  [Rush/Thomastown]
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