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Topic: WAKEFIELD.. CAN ANYONE HELP? (Read 1089 times)
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karen higgins
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her birth would still have been registered but fathers name left blank wouldn't
have it? if she had a birth certificate she would have been registered why was his name not on in and why did they not get married was it because of his parents? 
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karen higgins
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no can't find anthing for those names all i can find is florence m bayliss married thomas g davies 1919 abergavenney and florence b bayliss married edgar t davies tewksbury 1924 no bayliss and daveys 
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karen higgins
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hello, andrew
he was a bit of a lad then?so florence was adopted by a mr eustace did julia bayliss marry a daniel j g eustace in 1916?that is the only marriage i can find for a julia bayliss to a eustace?and i think maybe leonard was already married to elanor yeadon when he met julia thats why he didn't marry her or have his name on certificate incase his wife and familly found out
but maybe not all was right with his marriage when he met julia and maybe later divorced her then he would have been single ?cc wakefield was lord mayor of london at this time also so no scandels.
speak to you soon
karen
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karen higgins
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hello andrew,
this is how my tree goes and what i am looking for
edith wakefield married james burtonwood her parents were
alfred wakefield married ann jane bretland his parents were
john wakefield married mary cheers his parents were
thomas wakefield married julianna carwithin his parents were
robert wakefield married sarah roberts his parents were
thomas wakefield married sarah? his parents were?
edward wakefield married isabella gibbons
i need to find a marriage certificate for thomas married to sarah to find out what her maiden name was and that edward and isabella were his parents
to confirm us to this line as i know that edward jerringham wakefield was charles cheers wakefields second cousin and i believe this is how we are connected? but back in those days every thing went to the first son and our thomas was a second son there is a lot of information about there first son edward married to priscilla wakefield but nothing about thomas ?
has granny heard of any of these names?a lso does granny have any pics of any of the wakefilds as i only have a pic of edith wakefield at the moment but ediths youngest son only died last year and having lived in the same house from when he was born i was hoping that he would have had alot of pics and certificates but he didn't
karen
your wakefield relation
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karen higgins
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hello andrew 
thanks for that i will write to her is it mrs daveys?
thomas married too esther was my gr,gr,gr,gr,gr grand uncle so that will have made leonard my first cousin 5x removed i think that is how it goes.
i also found yesterday but you probaly already now if it is correct there is a leonard john wakefield died ww1 of the liverpool scottish regiment was he in this? there is a cast bronze plaque to him in the liverpool scottish regiment museum then next to it ,it says st andrews church?
karen
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karen higgins
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hello andrew thanks for that 
there is me, my mum,grandma,gr grandad arthur,gr gr grandma edith, gr gr gr grandad alfred, gr gr gr gr grandad john, gr gr gr gr gr grandad thomas married too julianna carwithin. and i am twice your age plus 10 and my mum is three times your age plus 13 and my grandma would have been four times your age plus 17 this year but she passed in 2005, and arthur was born 1902 and passed in1969 at age 67,edith was born 1879, alfred was born 1849
and john was born in 1826 and thomas married to julianna carwithin was born 1801 and thomas married to esther sommers was born in 1836.
take care speak to you soon
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philmouritz
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Hi readers,
I know I an a little late responding but Juliana Carwithen was born at Ripley, Derbyshire abt 1796 and died March Q 1886 at Chester, Chestershire aged 89 years. Juliana was the grandmother of First Viscount Wakefield, Baron Charles Cheers Wakefield 1860-1941. Charles, known also as 'Cheers' which was his mother's maiden name, was the founder of Castrol Oil (this is a corruption of castor oil).
I descend from Juliana's only brother, John Carwithen, 1794-1873, as follows:
Philip Gregory Mouritz 1954-
'Betty' Ellen Elizabeth Whittaker 1933- m 'Tony' Brian Anthony Mouritz 1932-
Doris Lillian Carwithen b 1899 Birmingham, Warcs d 1980 Perth, Western Australia m 'Jack' John Whittaker b 1900 Kidderminster, Worcestershire
Samuel Carwithen b 1861 Derby St Peters, Derbyshire d 1942 Birmingham, Warcs m 'Ellen' Eleanor Street b Madeley, Shropshire d 1940 Birmingham, Warcs
George Carwithen b 1826 Turnditch, Derbyshire d 1865 Birmingham, Warcs m Ann Radford b abt 1829 Turnditch, Derbyshire d 1906 Birmingham, Warcs
John Carwithen b 1794 Ripley, Derbyshire d June 1873 Stafford, Staffordshire (Juliana's brother) m second time Ann Clay b 1804 Derby, Derbyshire d 1864 Derby, Derbyshire
John Carwithen b abt 1762 , Derbyshire d 1838 Derby, Derbyshire m Sarah Getliffe b abt 1764 , Derbyshire d Mar Q 1838 Derby, Derbyshire
John Carwithen b abt 1740 Derbyshire? d abt 1777 Derbyshire? m Nanny?
Caleb Carwithen b abt 1715 Derbyshire? d 1768 Derbyshire? m Rebecca Draper b abt 1715
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Perth, Western Australia
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