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Topic: HUTCH*SON family - Greenock (Read 686 times)
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Ruskie
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I've tried everything I can think of to find this family in the 1841 and 1851 census, but I've had no luck at all and I'd be really grateful for some assistance.
- James Hutchison dob & place unknown
- wife Catherine Hutchison (nee Taylor) dob and place unknown
James and Catherine were married 1826 West or Old Parish, Greenock (IGI extracted)
- daughter Annabella Hutchison born about 1831 Greenock (birth year estimate from 1861, 71, 81 censuses and death certificate) [this is the line I am tracing]
- sons James and Alexander Hutchison born 1827 Greenock (IGI extracted)
Annabella married John Brabender in 1853 Middle or New Parish Greenock (IGI extracted), so she should be findable on the 1841 censuses, though perhaps not at home in 1851.
Annabella's father is a seaman according to her 1888 d/c so I've considered that he may be at sea and absent from censuses. Both her parents are dead by 1888.
I'm also looking for a birth date for Annabella if anyone can help. Annabella's brothers were christened in East Parish Greenock according to the IGI, so maybe she was christened there too? Also looking for other siblings.
Any help to find anything further about this family would be fantastic.
Asking the impossible. 
Fingers crossed and many thanks.
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Ann Baker
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Hi Ruskie
Ok their marriage checks out at Scotland's People
Married 26/02/1826 HUTCHISON JAMES CATHERINE TAYLOR
Greenock Old or West /RENFREW Ref 564/003 0080 0111
Twins too!
06/05/1827 HUTCHISON ALEXANDER Parents JAMES HUTCHISON/CATHERINE TAYLOR Greenock East /RENFREW 564/002 0020 0063
06/05/1827 HUTCHISON JAMES Parents JAMES HUTCHISON/CATHERINE TAYLOR Greenock East /RENFREW 564/002 0020 0063
Only the two boys births shown as registered BUT this could well be down to changes in the church Scotland around that time or they jhust couldn't afford to register any more. A lot didn't
Also confirmation of Annabella's Marriage (but note spelling of surname)
Married 13/08/1853 HUTCHIESON ANNABELLA JOHN BRABENDER Greenock New or Middle /RENFREW 564/001 0060 0343
No luck on 1841 0r 51 - There is one possible but fraid says no image which means Scotland's People couldn't copy it or it has been damaged..
Best Wishes
Ann
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Torrens, Thompson - Tyrone & Fermanagh,Connolly, Campbell - Monaghan & Cavan, McGovern, Carroll, Orr - Ireland
Connolly, Fulton, Stirling, Cameron, McKellar, Robertson, McGovern, Torrance, Bisland, Fraser, Hamilton, O'Hara, McAusland, McTaggart , Lambie, Twedale, Hart, Clark(Paisley/Barrhead/Glasgow)
McGovern, Liddell - Falkirk
Mair, Muir, Carroll, Stewart, Law, Orr - Lanarkshire
Torrance - Brisbane
Connolly , Robertson- NSW
McGovan(?), Robertson , Agnew-
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Ruskie
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Hi Ann,
Many thanks for the confirmation. Shame there is no birth reg for Annabella  . Never mind.
I've been using the census transcripts on An*****y, which often leave a lot to be desired. Are there any refs you can give me so I can look up that possible census sighting for the family.
Thanks again.
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Ann Baker
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Ruskie
There's nothing there to see just says no image. That usually means either it's so faint or damaged they've not been able to scan it
Ann
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Torrens, Thompson - Tyrone & Fermanagh,Connolly, Campbell - Monaghan & Cavan, McGovern, Carroll, Orr - Ireland
Connolly, Fulton, Stirling, Cameron, McKellar, Robertson, McGovern, Torrance, Bisland, Fraser, Hamilton, O'Hara, McAusland, McTaggart , Lambie, Twedale, Hart, Clark(Paisley/Barrhead/Glasgow)
McGovern, Liddell - Falkirk
Mair, Muir, Carroll, Stewart, Law, Orr - Lanarkshire
Torrance - Brisbane
Connolly , Robertson- NSW
McGovan(?), Robertson , Agnew-
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Ruskie
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Thanks anyway ....
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Bradwe
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Lots of happiness here!! Alexander Hutche/ison is my gg grandfather. I have a lot about him. Not quite sure how I can reach you, however. I check his name every so often in my search engine and tonight, for the first time, came up with your recent messaging. He married Mary Ball and the details are in Southport, England. Cheers Judy
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Ruskie
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Hi Judy,
Welcome to rootschat! It's surprising how many people end up here after a google search.
We can exchange information here on rootschat initially, and after you've made three posts, you cand send and receive personal messages (PM's).
To do this you click on the person's name or the scroll under their name. This takes you to another page where you have the option to send a PM.
Since this post I haven't progressed any further with the Hutchison family.
Whereabouts in the world are you? (I'm in Australia).
PS. I hope you won't be too disappointed when I tell you that this isn't actually my family - it's my brother-in-law's family. 
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Bradwe
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Thanks your reply! No, not disappointed - a brother-in-law is, after all, still family! I have written quite a bit on the Hutch*sons and Alexander, and think I have his family history. He had one daughter, Kate, named presumably after his mother, then (so family legend suggests) vanished to Liverpool to catch his ship. Kate married and had six daughters. She was my mother's grandmother and was a wonderful person, according to her granddaughter. We really need to exchange emails but haven't worked out yet how this is possible. I live across 'the ditch'. Hope you're not in Melbourne! Cheers Judy
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Ruskie
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All you need is one more reply before you can send a personal message. See my previous reply which tells you how to do this. It's quite simple. We can exchange private email addresses that way.
The connection my b-in-law has is through the female line:
James Hutch*son and Catherine Taylor are his ggg grandparents.
Their daughter Annabella Hutch*son (sister to your Alexander and James) = John Brabender.
Their daughter Catherine Brabender = Thomas Bain (it is this couple and their family who came to Australia in 1909).
Their daughter Margaret Bain = George Farrell.
Their son is my b-in-laws father.
I can give you further details of this side of the family later via email. I'm not sure how much more you have about the earlier Hutch*sons and Taylors, but maybe we can wok together on it? I've come to a standstill.
PS. I'm many miles north of Melbourne
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Bradwe
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Thanks for your reply. I am so glad you are well north of Melbourne. I have a first cousin in the Dandenongs and they have had to evacuate three times so far. He's said they will be out of the way today, too. I hope so. I'm in Wellington, NZ.
Now for the Hutch*sons. Thank you for Annabella's descendants. I didn't know Alexander had a sister, though I had found his brother, and the twin's christening. I have also traced back the family tree and this is all written up as a 'story'. It's hedged a bit with a few doubts but it does seem to add up. This I can send you as an attachment, along with a gorgeous photograph of his daughter Kate on her wedding day and more details of Alex's descendants. You might have more history of the family as all I put together were the bare facts. I might even have his photograph. There's one 'unknown' person in my family collection of pictures and I think it might be him. I certainly have photos of his wife, Mary.
The tree runs:
William Ball = Sarah Howard
Mary Ball c 1823 = Alexander Hutche/ison
Kate Hutche/ison = James Ormerod Taylor
Evelyn Taylor = Abraham William Crompton
(these were my grandparents) - all the families married in Southport ,Lancashire. There are descendants round the world.
As this is the third reply I imagine I can now find my way into the email system, but given by problems with even accessing this site I am only a little bit optimistic! My family were insistant that the surname was spelt Hutchison...but they hadn't consulted the parish records in Greenock. Cheers Judy
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Ruskie
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See how you go sending that PM Judy. I'll send one to you. I'm afraid I don't have any photos or anything to supplement the bare facts.
Just before Christmas my b-in-law asked if I could do his tree. I just started with the few names his Mum gave him.
I have since been contacted by two 'cousins' and you are the third. He does have a few unusual names in his family, so I'm not surprised. Oddly enough he also has another branch of Hutch*sons who originate from Ayrshire.
I haven't given him any of this information I've found as yet. I'm trying to get as much together as I can before I surprise him with it. I thought I'd gone about as far as I can, until yesterday, when I found an ancestor's death certificate and was contacted by you.
I'll PM you now.
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Mike Baldock
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I have a Patrick Hutcheson born in the Caledonian Road, Glasgow who married a Margaret McCann from Donegal, Eire at some point in the first two decades of the 20th Century.
Really struggling to take them any further back, and would be glad of any input!
This is my wife's family so I have no background knowledge of the area, and her mother was brought up apart from her family for most of her life so knows little about them :-(
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MonicaLesl
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Hi Mike
There is a marriage showing on Scotlands People, the official pay to view site for BMDs for a Patrick Hutcheson and a Maggie McCann in Hutchesontown, Glasgow City in 1904. The certificate is available to view on line. If you haven't researched in Scotland before, a good guide to records and research here on RootsChat www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,24468.0.html.
Scottish certs are very comprehensive and will include bride and groom's parents' names, including mother's maiden name.
Monica 
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Bradwe
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Hi to those messaging about the Hutchison family in Glasgow. I haven't got back any further than the parents of James, Alexander and Annabella, as in an earlier message. This was a Greenock family and the town is just a bit downstream from Glasgow. They may, of course, all be the same family, but I know the descendants of Alexander and they all, like me, were born in Southport, Lancashire. Alexander had one daughter so the Hutchison surname vanished, apart from its use as a second name. Annabella's family is known, and has, of course, a different surname, through her marriage. Nothing, apart from the baptism, has been found about Alexander's twin James, or indeed any other siblings. Cheers Judy
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MonicaLesl
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Mike, if I can suggest to you, it would be better if you started a new post on your line so that people can see your individual family and be able to help as they can. It will get a little lost in Judy's thread.
Monica
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