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Thomas VENNEN (or variation), Linkinhorne
« on: Sunday 05 April 09 11:03 UTC (UK) »

Hello Rootschatters!

I wondered if anyone could help me with the parents of Thomas Vennen, who according to his naval service record was born in Linkinhorne on 12th August 1821.

I have looked at the Cornwall registers online but can't find anything.

Any help would be much appreciated

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CONWAY, Westport, Mayo; TEALE, Salford, Manchester; GILCHRIST, Edinburgh; GRIFFITHS, East Stonehouse, Devon; VENNEN (and variations) Cornwall; TOY, Cornwall; ENGLAND, Cromer, Norfolk; LOFTUS, Cissie and Marie, Music Hall Artistes, Glasgow
PORTSWORTHY, Cornwall
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Re: Thomas Vennen (or variation), Linkinhorne
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 05 April 09 11:31 UTC (UK) »

Is this him??

1861 RG9/ 1440 folio 73 page 58 St Peter St Andrew Devon Reg district Plymouth

1c Central Street
Thomas Vennen age 38 Seaman RN born Liskeard Cornwall
Jane wife age 28 Gomich Cornwall
Jane dau age 15 Gomich
Thomas son age 12 St Andrews
Eliza Simcock age 23 lodger Milliner Bodmin Cornwall
Emily Baker servant age 14 Jersey

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Re: Thomas Vennen (or variation), Linkinhorne
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 05 April 09 11:52 UTC (UK) »

Thomas Vennen born 1823 died  march quarter 1868 age 45 Plymouth Devon 5b 187

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Re: Thomas Vennen (or variation), Linkinhorne
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 05 April 09 12:05 UTC (UK) »

Hi Pam

Yes, that is him.  Thank you for looking up the details.

What I am stuck on is his parents' names.  His father wasn't listed on his service record and I have the date of birth and place from these records, but that's as far as I can get!!

Thanks again for your help

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CONWAY, Westport, Mayo; TEALE, Salford, Manchester; GILCHRIST, Edinburgh; GRIFFITHS, East Stonehouse, Devon; VENNEN (and variations) Cornwall; TOY, Cornwall; ENGLAND, Cromer, Norfolk; LOFTUS, Cissie and Marie, Music Hall Artistes, Glasgow
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Re: Thomas Vennen (or variation), Linkinhorne
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 05 April 09 12:13 UTC (UK) »

hello trying to find the marriage certificate by the sound of it you do not have it. This would find the fathers name

Could this be the family

Was Jane a Toy or Mayor? There is a marriage sept 1851 Jane Toy and Thomas Venion Stoke Demerel devon 9 552


1851 H0107/1879 folio 422 page 59 Plymouth St Mary
1 Russell Street
Dorothy Mayor age 67 widow   Nurse born Plymouth Devon
Jane Venning dau age 24  Soldiers wife born Gwennap  Cornwall
Mary J  or I Venning grandaughter age 6 Devon Plymouth
Thomas Venning
grandson age 2 Plymouth
Mary Toy age 91 widow  lodger  Pauper born Tywadreath Cornwall
Catherine Toy age 22 Tywadreath Cornwall


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Re: Thomas Vennen (or variation), Linkinhorne
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 05 April 09 12:46 UTC (UK) »

thought this family rang a bell! See also

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,335911.msg2158207.html#msg2158207
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Cornwall: Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Kellett, Tebb
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Re: Thomas Vennen (or variation), Linkinhorne
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 05 April 09 14:01 UTC (UK) »

Hello folks

Thank you for all your help with this. 

However, I have all the details of Thomas etc. going forward, thanks to previous postings and some research on my part, but I am trying, from his birth record, to find his parents and find out where the family came from, and whether I can go back any further in time.

I managed to find his birth date and place of birth (Linkinshorne) from his RN records so I am hoping to find the "official" parish record giving me his mother's maiden name (possibly) and his father's name, or his parents' marriage details.

Thanks again

Sandgrounder





I have searched the Cornwall records online but can't find anything.   This could be because Vennen seems to have been spelled several different ways in various records!
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CONWAY, Westport, Mayo; TEALE, Salford, Manchester; GILCHRIST, Edinburgh; GRIFFITHS, East Stonehouse, Devon; VENNEN (and variations) Cornwall; TOY, Cornwall; ENGLAND, Cromer, Norfolk; LOFTUS, Cissie and Marie, Music Hall Artistes, Glasgow
PORTSWORTHY, Cornwall
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Re: Thomas Vennen (or variation), Linkinhorne
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 05 April 09 15:23 UTC (UK) »

I echo Pam's advice of getting his marriage certificate. How would you know you have the correct baptism if you don't have confirmation of father's name & occupation form marriage cert?

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Cornwall: Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Kellett, Tebb
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Re: Thomas VENNEN (or variation), Linkinhorne
« Reply #8 on: Monday 06 April 09 08:13 UTC (UK) »

Hello

I have sent for the marriage cert and will see what transpires!

Thanks again

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CONWAY, Westport, Mayo; TEALE, Salford, Manchester; GILCHRIST, Edinburgh; GRIFFITHS, East Stonehouse, Devon; VENNEN (and variations) Cornwall; TOY, Cornwall; ENGLAND, Cromer, Norfolk; LOFTUS, Cissie and Marie, Music Hall Artistes, Glasgow
PORTSWORTHY, Cornwall
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Re: Thomas VENNEN (or variation), Linkinhorne
« Reply #9 on: Monday 06 April 09 11:45 UTC (UK) »

The Linkinhorne records are online but not in the OPC database.

I have had a look and I cannot find anything at all for the name Vennen or variations.

It might well be that he was brought up in Linkinhorne but born elsewhere but he doesnt remember as he was too young.

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Re: Thomas VENNEN (or variation), Linkinhorne
« Reply #10 on: Monday 06 April 09 11:55 UTC (UK) »

I see in another post it says born Liskeard, so I checked those records too. Nothing for a Thomas Vennen or near matches 1813 - 1840


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Re: Thomas VENNEN (or variation), Linkinhorne
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 07 April 09 08:48 UTC (UK) »

Fizzy

Thanks again for all your efforts.  I think the problem is the many variations in the spelling of the name.

The certificates may shed some more light on the matter.

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CONWAY, Westport, Mayo; TEALE, Salford, Manchester; GILCHRIST, Edinburgh; GRIFFITHS, East Stonehouse, Devon; VENNEN (and variations) Cornwall; TOY, Cornwall; ENGLAND, Cromer, Norfolk; LOFTUS, Cissie and Marie, Music Hall Artistes, Glasgow
PORTSWORTHY, Cornwall
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