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« on: Monday 26 April 04 10:25 BST (UK) »

 Smiley   I am trying to trace my family in West Molesey Surrey. On my Mothers side Alfred Jasper Lock and Ellen Sarah Lock nee Sacker. On my Fathers side Arthur Thomas Perrin and Georgina Veronica nee Orvis/orwitz not sure of the spelling


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« Reply #1 on: Monday 26 April 04 11:26 BST (UK) »

Hi Barbara
Do you have any dates or approx ages for the people you want looking up ? Are they recent or pre 1900 ? are they born in Surrey ?

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« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 04 May 04 11:45 BST (UK) »


Dear Peter My grandfather Alfred Jasper Lock was born on 25 4 1817 My grandmother Sarah Secker was born in Camberwell London. We do not have a birth date They were married in 1894.My parents Percy Perrin was born on 12 7 1911, My Mother Rose Nee Lock was born on 15 8 1916. We do not have any dates on my other grandparent Arthur Thomas Perrin and Georgina Veronica nee Orvis/orwitz.Any help would be great

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« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 04 May 04 12:03 BST (UK) »

Hi
  Is it me or is there a mistake with your grandfather Alfred Lock's birth year(1817) as you say your mother Rose was born in 1916 this would make him 99 !!! when she was born.
   Is this what is known as starting a family late in life.

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« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 04 May 04 13:02 BST (UK) »

Dear Peter.I will just give you my Mothers Birth date 15 8 1916 and her fathers Alfred Jasper Lock birth date 25 4 1860ish My fathers birth date 12 7 1911
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« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 04 May 04 13:31 BST (UK) »

Hi
I think this your Alfred Jasper Lock and family in 1901

Name:    Alfred J Lock
Age in 1901:    28  
Estimated birth year:    1873
Relation:    Head  
 
Gender:    Male  
Where born:    East Molesey, Surrey, England
     
Civil parish:    West Molesey  
Ecclesiatical parish:    St Nicholas  
Town:    West Molesey  
County/Island:    Surrey  
Country:    England  
     
 
     
Source information:    RG13/670
Registration district:    Kingston  
Sub-registration district:    Esher  
ED, institution, or vessel:    12  
Folio:    157  
Page:    27  
Household schedule number:    156

I will look shortly for other census years

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« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 04 May 04 13:47 BST (UK) »

Hi Peter, sorry if stepping on your toes but had been looking on 1881 census also:

Household:

 
 Alfred LOCK   Head   M   Male   43   Sunbury, Middlesex, England   Labourer    
 Jane LOCK   Wife   M   Female   43   East Molesey, Surrey, England        
 Jane LOCK   Daur   U   Female   21   East Molesey, Surrey, England   Gen Servant    
 George LOCK   Son   U   Male   18   East Molesey, Surrey, England   Labourer    
 Henry LOCK   Son   U   Male   16   East Molesey, Surrey, England   Labourer    
 John LOCK   Son   U   Male   14   East Molesey, Surrey, England   Labourer    
 Rose LOCK   Daur      Female   12   East Molesey, Surrey, England   Scholar    
 Charles LOCK   Son      Male   10   East Molesey, Surrey, England   Scholar    
 Alfred LOCK   Son      Male   7   East Molesey, Surrey, England   Scholar      
Joseph LOCK   Son      Male   5   East Molesey, Surrey, England   Scholar    
 Caroline LOCK   Daur      Female   3   East Molesey, Surrey, England        
 Alice LOCK   Daur      Female   7 m   East Molesey, Surrey, England        
 Ada Jh... LOCK   Daur      Female   4   East Molesey, Surrey, England        


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Source Information:
  Dwelling   Park Terrace
  Census Place East Molesey, Surrey, England
  Family History Library Film   1341198
  Public Records Office Reference   RG11
  Piece / Folio   0840 / 53
  Page Number   41
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« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 04 May 04 13:54 BST (UK) »

1881 census - no Ellen Sacker - but this might fit the bill:

Household:

 Name  Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
 Edward SEEKER   Head   M   Male   30   Camberwell, Surrey, England   Labourer    
 Sarah SEEKER   Wife   M   Female   29   Camberwell, Surrey, England        
 Ellen SEEKER   Dau      Female   12   Camberwell, Surrey, England   Scholar    
 Agnes SEEKER   Dau      Female   9   Camberwell, Surrey, England   Scholar    
 Eliza SEEKER   Dau      Female   7   Camberwell, Surrey, England   Scholar      
Edith SEEKER   Dau      Female   6   Camberwell, Surrey, England   Scholar    
 Charlotte EMBURY   Mother In Law   W   Female   62   Camberwell, Surrey, England   Washer    


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Source Information:
  Dwelling   11 Queen St
  Census Place Camberwell, Surrey, England
  Family History Library Film   1341156
  Public Records Office Reference   RG11
  Piece / Folio   0672 / 23
  Page Number   38
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« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 04 May 04 13:55 BST (UK) »

opps - put 'bold' on wrong daughter!!  Apologies.

Household:

 Name  Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
 Edward SEEKER   Head   M   Male   30   Camberwell, Surrey, England   Labourer    
 Sarah SEEKER   Wife   M   Female   29   Camberwell, Surrey, England        
 Ellen SEEKER   Dau      Female   12   Camberwell, Surrey, England   Scholar      
Agnes SEEKER   Dau      Female   9   Camberwell, Surrey, England   Scholar    
 Eliza SEEKER   Dau      Female   7   Camberwell, Surrey, England   Scholar    
 Edith SEEKER   Dau      Female   6   Camberwell, Surrey, England   Scholar    
 Charlotte EMBURY   Mother In Law   W   Female   62   Camberwell, Surrey, England   Washer    


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Source Information:
  Dwelling   11 Queen St
  Census Place Camberwell, Surrey, England
  Family History Library Film   1341156
  Public Records Office Reference   RG11
  Piece / Folio   0672 / 23
  Page Number   38
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« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 04 May 04 14:24 BST (UK) »

Hi Barbara
 They are coming in thick and fast now,Thank for the help Twink much appreciated (its a biggee)

1891 census
Name:    Lock, Alfred
Age in 1891:    18  
Relation:    Son  
Gender:    Male  
Where Born:    East Molesey, Surrey
     
Civil parish:    West Molesey  
Ecclesiastical parish:    West Molesey  
Town:    
County:    Surrey  
     
     
Source information:    RG12/615
Registration district:    Kingston  
Sub registration district:    Esher  
ED, institution, or vessel:    12  
Folio:    113  
Page:    9

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« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 04 May 04 14:38 BST (UK) »

Hi Barbara
this should be your Ellen Secker in 1891

Name:    Secker, Ellen
Age in 1891:    21  
Relation:    Servant  
Gender:    Female  
Where Born:    Camberwell, London
Beauchamp St.  
Civil parish:    East Molesey  
Ecclesiastical parish:    St Mary  
Town:    
County:    Surrey  
Source information:    RG12/615
Registration district:    Kingston  
Sub registration district:    Esher  
ED, institution, or vessel:    11  
Folio:    95  
Page:    45

I think thats about it for now if there is anything else please ask.

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« Reply #11 on: Sunday 23 May 04 10:43 BST (UK) »

Hi Barbara

Alfred Jasper LOCK born 25/4/1873 Park road, East Molesey. Father Albert LOCK b 23 Apr 1837 Sunbury mother Jane Whatford.

Albert's parents: Father John LOCK bap 12 Jun 1803 Sunbury Mother Charlotte HOUGHTON bap 20 Sept 1801 Teddington. Married 30 Jan 1826 Teddington.

John's parents: Father Daniel LOCK bap 28 Mar 1773 Sunbury Mother Hannah?

Daniel's parents: Father Thomas LOCK Mother Ann HITCHMAN Married 9 Apr 1763 Sunbury.

I have details of siblings etc. if you would like them.

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« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 02 June 04 17:42 BST (UK) »

Hi Barbara,

I have just come across this forum and have a little information that may help you.
My step-grandmother was Florence Vera Perrin, born 4th April 1903.
Her parents were Arthur Thomas Perrin and Georgina Perrin - I cant quite make out the maiden name.
Arthur (aged 20) and Georgina (aged 28) were married on October 19th 1901 and at that time Arthur lived in West End, Esher. Georgina lived at Walton-on-Thames.
Arthurs father is listed as Charles Perrin, a brewer.
Georginas father is George (Orvis?) a licensed victualler.

I have the original marriage certificate and Florences birth certificate also, although they are a little tricky to read. I also have a couple of photo's if you would like copies of them?

Hope that helps,
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« Reply #13 on: Friday 11 June 04 09:28 BST (UK) »

Dear Jan, I was so pleased to hear from you.Iwould love to have the photos and birth certificates. I left Molesey a long time ago, but do remember Aunti Flo. I think they lived down Grange Road. Do tell me a little bit about yourself it would be great. Mant thanks for answering Love Barbara
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« Reply #14 on: Friday 18 June 04 09:41 BST (UK) »

HI Robert,
    Thank you for the info on my family, and would be very pleased to have the details of siblings and any other info you might have
        Regards
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