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squidge
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I am looking for any monumental transcriptions for a James Gill Sisson of Thorney, possibly buried in the Cowgate Cemetery about 1857. He was christened june 12 1791 and had possibly four children - James, Samuel, Elizabeth and John. He was married to Susannah Cave of Wisbech, Cambridgeshire. Cheers, Ron
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charlotteCH
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welcome to rootschat Ron.
I can't help you with the MIs but I'm wondering if you'd thought of checking the death year of James SISSON? You could search freebmd and find the year and quarter in which he died. Records in it start in 1837.
charlotte
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HARGREAVES, HANSON, BAILEY, BURTON, HEWITT, JAGGER, LOCKWOOD, UTTLEY, RUDD, TAYLOR, HOLDEN, SHAW Halifax / Sowerby/ Southowram 18C+
GILL, Accrington, Blackburn, West Derby, Lancs, migrated USA 1891 to RI: GILL in SC: HOTCHKISS in RI: PELOQUIN in RI
HUMPHRIES, HILLIER, ALLEN, LYDBURY Nunney/Frome 18-19C
HUMPHRIES, JOYCE, HEWITT, ROBINSON, McMULLEN, SUFFEL, CARNEY, MARRON, COMPTON, FREEMAN Ont. Canada 1830+
PILSEN, Sask.
82nd Regt of Foot 1808-1825
1st WRY Militia 1780-1800
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squidge
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Hi and thanks,
I have a death certificate extract dated 16 Aug 1857 but am unsure if this is the right James.....that's why I am looking for a MI to try and link with the children........it's the missing link in this part of the chain 
Cheers
Ron
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lizdb
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Does the person who registered the death give any clue? widow? son?
Or the address where he died - is that the same as where he was in 1851? or where his family are in 1861?
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lizdb
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Is this Susannah in 1861?
RG9 967 26 13
Bridge Hill Street Yard
St Johns Peterborugh
Susannah Sissin 73 wid Late nurse bn Wisbech
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lizdb
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Here they are in 1851
HO107 1747 938 54
Olney? Lane Eye
James 61 Ag LAb bn Thorney
Susannah 64 bn Wisbech
John 23 son Married Ag Lab bn Newborough? Northborough?
Elizabeth 27 dtr in law bn Bucks
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lizdb
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1841
HO107 813 11
Eye Green, Eye
James 50 not bn in county
Susan 53 not bn in cty
John 12 bn in cty
no sign of any other children, but they could be older and left home.
What makes you think James was buried in Peterborough? The family appear to live in Eye, until Susannah is widowed. I dont know if they moved into Peterborough before or after JAmes's death. What address is there on the Death cert?
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seahall
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Remembering those care free days of childhood
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Hi All.
The James listed on the 1841 does have a burial in Eye on
19 Aug 1857 aged 67.
Ron if you think it was Cowgate Cemetery there is some information on the
Peterborough City Council web site.
It may be an idea to ask the Cemetery Office if they know of the Interment
with you having a death date etc.
http://www.peterborough.gov.uk/page-5787
Sandy
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harrygeorge1
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Hi, I too have ancestors buried here,or were should I say. It is now a massive roundabout with an underpass. Some of the headstones have been left but the bodies were all moved to other cemeteries.
Good luck trying to find which cemetery....
Andrea.
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Haynes,Cobb,Welcher,Cox, Buck, Hipwell, Crunckhorn, Searle, Gilbert, (cambs),Lakey,Lavender,Merrington,Rolfe,Larkman (welney), Bell (docking),Haigh, Heselgrove,Bastow,Price,(yorks), Hipperson, Sadler.
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squidge
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Hi all,
Thanks for the great response, probing questions and great information. The person present at registration of death is an Elizabeth Bellamy. The name Bellamy keeps cropping up in my searches, so I guess they are family friends. I have assumed that James was buried in Peterborough and therefore at Cowgate given the death date. I did search the Eye cemetery last month when I was there but found no trace of any James. I have a copy of the Eye Register burial and this may be the one. I was just hoping to find the monumental inscription to link him to John. My apologies if it sounds like I have already got the information. My laptop was stolen on my research trip and I am having to relocate all the bits and pieces again.....and yes, I had it all backed up on a flash drive but that was stolen also.    Thanks for reminding me of the later census record for Susannah as a nurse! 
I guess my biggest doubts lay with the fact that there were 2 James Sissons born in Thorney in 1791 and I might end up mixing their details!
Cheers comrades
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lizdb
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Given the date of death on the death cert that you have, the fact that your family lived in Eye, and then the date of the burial in Eye, just a few days later, it looks very likely this is all the same man.
The chances of another John Sissons, who we dont have a death cert for, being buried at that time in Eye (and therefore dying at exactly the same time in Eye) is pretty unlikely, I would have thought.
First rule of Family history- never assume anything!! The assumption that he was buried in Peterborough could have led to a wrong track altogether!
It is highly likely there is no monument in Eye Cemetery (you say you have looked). John was an Ag Lab, and stone memorials were expensive. Most Ag labs do not have them. the plot would possibly have been marked initially with a wooden cross that has rotted long long ago.
Even if this is not your man (and I am sure it is, I cant think of what more evidence you can hope for) and your guy is buried elsewhere (and I cant think why) then I dont think it will not be any good hoping for a stone memorial to help confirm this, he is so unlikely to have one. A record in the burial register is all you can hope for, and you have one in Eye which fits your chappie exactly.
I suppose to be doubly sure, if yuo are worried about mixing him with another man of same age and name, is to follow the other man through the censuses, and find his death. You will then have two deaths, and hopefully some snippet frmo one or other death cert will confirm which death goes with which man.
You know for starters that your one dies between 1851 and 1861, so if the other one is outside these dates you have yuor answer without even getting another cert!
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lizdb
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pS - a quick look on FreeBMD shows John Sisson deaths in that general area in1840 and 1870, and then 1857 Stamford reg distr, and 1858 Peterborough Reg distr.
You know yours dies between 1851 and 1861, so if you have the 1857 cert (is Eye in Stamford reg distr?) then the only other possible is the 1858 one ..
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