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Topic: Robert McLUCKIE & family (Read 1138 times)
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fred2derf
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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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Alexander McLUCKIE b. 9 Feb 1839 Govan, Lanark to parents:
Robert McLUCKIE b. abt 1812 Glasgow, Lanark and
Jean/Jane BELL b. abt 1813 Monkland, Lanark
married on 20 Oct 1838 Gorbals, Lanark.
1841
Name: Robert McLuckie 29
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1812
Where born: Lanarkshire, Scotland
Civil Parish: Gorbals
County: Lanarkshire
Address: Fire Works
Occupation: Coal M
Name: Jane McLuckie 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1813
Where born: Lanarkshire, Scotland
Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
Now is Robert's mother Janet ALLAN or Janet LIVINGSTON? And who were his siblings?
Thanks.
Fred
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tidybooks
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Hi Fred,
I am having a bit difficulty, in SP, there is only 1 Robert Mcluckie born between 1810 and 1820 and that is one on 30 April 1820 in Greenock West, with parent's name Janet, but not Allan or Livingston.
I have seen the 1841 census with the 2 children on Ancestry, but there ages were not rounded up. Have you seen the original on SP, could there be a mistake on their ages?
I can also see Alexander Mcluckie marrying Janet Livingston in Shotts 6 Sep 1812, how do you know that is correct marriage, have you any other evidence?
Tom
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Scotland - Buchanan, Thomson, Paterson, Stewart, Ritchie, Tracey
Ireland - Tracey, Conroy, Paterson.
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fred2derf
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Posts: 319
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Hello Tom,
Thanks for looking. I have no access to Ancestry and I've just gone through yet another 30 credits on SP with my ANGEL family so I'm stuck with zero credits until I get a reply from Bristol RO re 2 marriages and 4 baptisms. My next purchase of credits on SP depends on the number of events, if any, the Bristol RO can find.
I have not seen the 1841 census on SP. All I have is the listing I posted and what I can find on IGI by way of extracted entries.
1894 MCLUCKIE ROBERT M 82 RUTHERGLEN GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 654/00 0064
Robert & Jean named their children:
Jean b. 17 Feb 1837 Hutchesontown Relief Church, Glasgow, Lanark
Alexander c. 3 Mar 1839 Hutchesontown Relief Church, Glasgow, Lanark
Janet b. 1 Jul 1841 Gorbals, Lanark
Margaret b. 19 Jun 1845 c. 6 Jul 1845 Gorbals, Lanark
Helen b. abt 1849
John b. abt 1852
Robert b. abt 1854 - I wonder if it is actually 1855 - could we be so lucky?
Ann b. 15 Feb 1857 Rutherglen, Lanark
And, the name appears in IGI and elsewhere as M LUCKIE Mc LUCHIE M'LUCKIE McLUCHIE.
Regards,
Fred
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fred2derf
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Hello Carolyn,
No need to apologise. Thanks, I will add that to the list of variations.
Regards,
Fred
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John Bell
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Have no idea if this is your John McLuckie or you already have his details but pass it on for what it is worth.
John
1881 Census
Dwelling: Back Of High Street
Census Place: Kilmallie, Argyll, Scotland
Source: FHL Film 0203558 GRO Ref Volume 520 EnumDist 3 Page 22
Marr Age Sex Birthplace
John MC LUCKIE M 28 M Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Head
Occ: Plumber
Mary MC LUCKIE M 28 F Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Wife
John MC LUCKIE U 9 M Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Son
Occ: Scholar
Mary MC LUCKIE U 4 F Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Daur
Robert MC LUCKIE U 2 M Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Son
Alexander MC LUCKIE U 10 m M Kilmallie, Inverness, Scotland
Rel: Son
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BELL :Coatbridge, Sct & West Aust
WALLIS :Lamberhurst, Ticehurst, Frant. Ssx & West Aust
SENYARD :London.
VEAZEY :London
PARMENTER :Acton Suffolk & London & West Aust
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fred2derf
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Posts: 319
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Hello John,
Thank you for that one. It could well be John born abt 1853 now married and with family. I had nothing apart from the rough birth date from the census for him in my tree.
Regards,
Fred
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karenmarie
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Hi Fred,
Next door to the family you listed in your first post on the 1841 census are, Alexander McCLUCKIE 60
Janet " " 60
Janet " " 11
Walter " " 27 all born Lanark.
Karen
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Ireland- McKinlay, Carlin
Lanarkshire- Lochiel, McGibbon/McCubbin, Burnside, McDougal
Ayrshire-McQuaters,McIntosh, White, McCubbin, Cunningham, Murdoch, Hope
Kirkcudbrightshire- Hay, Hannah
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fred2derf
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Hello Karen,
Thank you very much. Family history always said that Robert's parents were Alexander and Janet but until now I've not had anything to support that apart from the naming of Robert & Jean's children. I still hope we can find Janet's maiden surname.
Regards,
Fred
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karenmarie
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Hi Fred,
Walter that is staying with Alexander and Janet in 1841 is possibly their son, maybe you could try tracing him. There is a marriage for a Walter McLUCKIE and Jane LIVINGSTON (sp?) in 1835 on IGI. Don't know if it is the right one, but she dies (the OPRS for Shotts are online, there is a link to it on rootschat in the scotland resorces forum) which would explain why he is back with parents.
The 1841 census I got was from freecen, I don't know if you are aware of it, but it is online and free (most of the 1841 scottish census and bits of the 1851). There is probably a link for it somewhere on the site.
Karen
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Ireland- McKinlay, Carlin
Lanarkshire- Lochiel, McGibbon/McCubbin, Burnside, McDougal
Ayrshire-McQuaters,McIntosh, White, McCubbin, Cunningham, Murdoch, Hope
Kirkcudbrightshire- Hay, Hannah
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fred2derf
RootsChat Senior
Posts: 319
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Hello Karen,
Thank you very much. We are slowly building up more of a picture of the family. I know about FreeCEN thanks. I've just spent yet another 30 credits on SP with my ANGEL family so now I'm waiting for a reply from Bristol RO re 2 marriages and 4 births / baptisms before I purchase more credits on SP. Meanwhile I'm working on various branches of my tree.
Regards,
Fred
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fred2derf
RootsChat Senior
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Hello,
A marriage:
6 Sep 1812 Alexander McLUCKIE & Janet LIVINGSTON Shotts, Lanark
and these McLUCKIE:
c. 22 May 1803 Margaret Alexander & Janet ALLAN Shotts, Lanark
c. 14 Jul 1805 John Alexander & Janet ALLAN Shotts, Lanark
born abt 1812 Robert Alexander & Janet ?? , Lanark
c. 25 Jul 1813 Walter Alexander & Janet LIVINGSTON Shotts, Lanark
c. 16 Mar 1817 William Alexander & Janet LIVINGSTONE Shotts, Lanark
Walter McLUCKIE & Jane LIVINGSTONE
1 Mar 1835 Shotts, Lanark
and
Walter McLUCKIE & Jane LIVINGSTON
Mar 1835 New Monkland, Lanark
Is this the Janet aged 11 next door in 1841:
Janet McLUCKIE
c. 26 Aug 1832 Old Monkland, Lanark
Alexander McLUCKIE & Elizabeth SNADDON
Now I'm really confused.
Regards,
Fred
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karenmarie
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Hi Fred,
on the 1841 census,
Elizeabeth SNADDON 30
Elizeabeth McLUCKIE 10
George 10
Jennet 5
Alexander 2
Don't know who the Janet on the 1841 with Alexander is. Maybe a daughter of Walter. Not all births were recorded.
There is a birth on IGI for a Janet ALLAN McLUCKIE b1860 parents John McLUCKIE and Agnes WOODROW. This John would have to be too young to be the son of The Janet ALLAN that was having children with Alexander McLUCKIE, but possibly a grandson. Maybe tracing him back will help to identify family groups. Also, some of my lines named children after family members who had just died, which made me think have you looked for a death of a Janet McLUCKIE/ALLAN or McLUCKIE/LIVINGSTON? Just did a free search on SP and there is a Janet McLUCKIE other name ALLAN who dies in 1865.
Karen
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Ireland- McKinlay, Carlin
Lanarkshire- Lochiel, McGibbon/McCubbin, Burnside, McDougal
Ayrshire-McQuaters,McIntosh, White, McCubbin, Cunningham, Murdoch, Hope
Kirkcudbrightshire- Hay, Hannah
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fred2derf
RootsChat Senior
Posts: 319
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Hello Karen,
Thanks for your suggestion. I'll look for deaths with the combination of surnames.
One thing I did notice was that LIVINGSTON is a very common name in Lanark.
Regards,
Fred
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fred2derf
RootsChat Senior
Posts: 319
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Hello,
1851
Civil Parish: Govan
Town: Fireworks
County: Lanarkshire
Address: English Square Cathcart Road
Robert McLUCKIE head age 39 Coal Miner Barony Glasw, Lanark
Jean McLUCKIE wife age 38 Old Monkland, Lanark
Jean McLUCKIE daur age 14 Govan, Lanark
Alexander McLUCKIE son age 12 Govan, Lanark
Janet McLUCKIE daur age 9 Govan, Lanark
Margaret McLUCKIE daur age 5 Govan, Lanark
Helen McLUCKIE daur age 1 Govan, Lanark
Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
Robert McCLUCKIE b. 13 Dec 1814 c. 1 Jan 1815 Barony, Lanark
Robert McCLUCKIE & Jean BULL
Three siblings for Robert also born Barony, Lanark.
John b. 12 Jun 1808 c. 19 Jun 1808
William b. 20 Mar 1817 c. 13 Apr 1817
Peter b. 1 Oct 1818 c. 8 Nov 1818
Regards,
Fred
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