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buffylewis
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Birth look up..please
« on: Monday 06 April 09 12:13 UTC (UK) »
I have david lloyd abt 1854 , 1881 cens says he was born in Llanbadarn fynydd radnorshire. On his marriage to Mary Ward it gives his father as Richard Lloyd, I can not find him on 1861 with father richard only a grandfather, I sent for birth cert for david lloyd b 1853, vol11b page 187, wrong one.
Would anyone be able to look for birth record for david lloyd 11b pg 148, if anyone going to records office. Thank you.
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CaroleW
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Re: Birth look up..please
« Reply #1 on: Monday 06 April 09 12:37 UTC (UK) »
Hi

Sorry - Births found on freebmd cannot be looked up for further info.  Certificates need to be purchased

As you know his fathers name, you could always send for a copy of the birth cert but put a condition on your application that you only want it if father was called Richard.  If it’s the wrong one – you will only be charged a £3 search fee 
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Re: Birth look up..please
« Reply #2 on: Monday 06 April 09 12:48 UTC (UK) »
Are you sure you have the right 1861 entry for David?

That entry shows his grandfather was Richard but also shows an unmarried son called Richard who was only 21. 

If David's father was Richard - it's impossible for it to be this family given that David is 8 in 1861

What was Richard's occupation on David's marriage cert
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« Reply #3 on: Monday 06 April 09 12:49 UTC (UK) »
Hi Carole, Not really sure if his father was Richard even though it was on marriage cert,(could that happen, I think it could be grandfather)
Richard had unmarried daughters and a son edward??? was David one of theirs...
Thanks for the tip and reply. l have already had a wrong cert today for david, lol.
Take care
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« Reply #4 on: Monday 06 April 09 12:52 UTC (UK) »
Hi, In the 1841 cens Richard had a son Edward b abt 1834.
Richard was stated as being a farmer.
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Re: Birth look up..please
« Reply #5 on: Monday 06 April 09 13:01 UTC (UK) »
Hi

I think you can ignore Edward but it's more likely David was the illegitimate son of one of the daughters

It was not at all unusual for an illegitimate child to make up a fathers name when they married so as to make them appear "respectable" and coincidentally - his grandfather was called Richard and was a farmer

I notice that the 1891 census shows David's birthplace as Llandbodian Radnor
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« Reply #6 on: Monday 06 April 09 13:06 UTC (UK) »
Hi ,I agree with you, I think I am going to have to send for the other cert for david, all the other cens has Llanbadarn fynydd,I have Edward on 1861, 1881 and 1891 cens ,he is unmarried.God they make it difficult.LOL
Thanks for you help, take care. Liz
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Re: Birth look up..please
« Reply #7 on: Monday 06 April 09 13:36 UTC (UK) »
Hi Liz

Did you know that the registration district of Knighton covered Llanbadarn fynydd and there is only one birth registered there between 1852-1855

Births September qtr 1852 

David Lloyd   Knighton  11b 169

Going back to the 1861 census - David was aged 8yrs which would be correct as at 1860.  However - his age subtracted from 1861 gives a birthyear of 1853

The 1861 and 1901 just shown Radnor but the 1871 also shows Llanbadarn fynydd and he was working as a servant there in 1871 (transcribed as Lloydd)
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« Reply #8 on: Monday 06 April 09 13:42 UTC (UK) »
Hi Carole, Thats 2 I have to send for now. I am going to the national library of wales in aberystwyth in june, hope to find out more then. I shall let you know when I get b certs to who is davids parents, Thanks Carole.
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« Reply #9 on: Monday 06 April 09 13:43 UTC (UK) »
Checking the 1861 again - the only other David Lloyd in the age range was b Llanyre which was part of Rhayader reg district

Freebmd has no deaths under Knighton between 1852-1861 for David Lloyd
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« Reply #10 on: Monday 06 April 09 13:46 UTC (UK) »
Hi, Thats the one I had back today, it gives davids parents as..
Thomas Lloyd and Eliza Lloyd, wrong one.
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« Reply #11 on: Monday 06 April 09 14:38 UTC (UK) »
Hi Carole, I have been checking the cens again, I think the one you gave me  for david , knighton 11b 169 could be it, I am sending for that one first.Thanks Liz..
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