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jennyrob
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Timothy Mahoney from Merthyr had a daughter Margaret in 1909 in Merthyr and I have just got the birth certificate Her mother was named as Margaret Hutchings I have tried to purchase a marriage cert by contacting Merthyr Register Office but they cant find a record and I cant find it on Free births What can I do now HELP
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osprey
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have you found a marriage for Margaret & Timothy? Do you know if Margaret b. 1909 is the oldest child? What address was she born at?
I can see another daughter registered
Nelly Mahoney sept qtr 1911 Merthyr Tydfil vol 11a pg 1686 mother's maiden name Hutchings
Do you have either Timothy or Margaret on the 1901 census?
It might be that you have to wait for the 1911 census for Glamorgan to come online which will be sometime this year - being scanned around this time. Then you will be able to check birth places of the parents.
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Cornwall: Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Kellett, Tebb
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jennyrob
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She was born at11 Upper Taff Street Caerew Merthyr I have found Timothy at Wool Street in 1901 with his parents John and Margaret and again in 1881 at 19 Lower Taff Street There are a few Mary Hutchings in the area so I am not sure which one is right There is a Timothy Mahoney who married 1908 in Merthyr but it was to Mary Kingdom
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osprey
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I'd looked at that Timothy. If he married someone of similar age, it doesn't give much scope for a previous marriage, does it? I wonder if it's a case of her marrying under a stepfather's name?
The 1911 census will help with her place of birth and should be with us within the next few months. Can you hold on until then?
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Cornwall: Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Kellett, Tebb
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jennyrob
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Guess I will have to wait They frustrating By the way Margaret had a lot of brothers and sisters Violet Betty John Doreen Timothy Katherine
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jennyrob
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Thanks for your help
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jennyrob
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Just checked the brothers and sisters There some with these names with a mother Kingdom they were born in Cardiff but there are also some with same names born in Merthyr Even more confusing 
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osprey
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it's your choice. Wait for the 1911 or buy some more certificates to see if they help.
There's more than one Timothy Mahoney whose birth is registered in Merthyr.
There's one in Dowlais son of Philip & Catherine, bricklayer's labourer RG13/5029 folio 90 pg 28. Also a son of Cornelius who I can't see in 1901.
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Cornwall: Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Kellett, Tebb
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jennyrob
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I dont mind buying more certificates but I cant work out which to buy I thought the marriage one of Timothy Mahoney and Margaret Hutchings would open all the doors but it doesnt exist Can you advise which ones to buy Thanks for all your help
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osprey
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Well, those birth regs look interesting. I've found registrations for some of the names in Merthyr, but that's a far higher success rate. Also, I found a Nellie with mother's maiden name Hutchings and that wasn't on the list. Now, there are at least 3 Timothy Mahoneys on the census in Merthyr. There's the 1908 marriage, one registered Newport in 1914 to Grimaldi, and another registered Merthyr in 1914 to Murphy.
I think I'd be tempted to get that 1908 marriage and/or one of the Cardiff registered births to check the details.
There's more than one Margaret Mahoney birth reg as well - couple in Cardiff march qtr 1910 vol 11a pg 371, march qtr 1911 vol 11a pg 392. How sure are you that you have the correct birth cert for Margaret? You may have been really unlucky and found another Margaret daughter of another Timothy. When & where did she die? Dates of birth are on the index from 1984.
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Cornwall: Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Kellett, Tebb
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jennyrob
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The birth certificate of Margaret is in the family born 22 Jan 1909 at Upper Taff Street Caedraw Merthyr Father Timothy Coal miner mother Mary formerly Hutchings of 11 Upper Taff Street I will send for themarriage cert of Mary Kingdom Thanks for your help
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welshjo
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Just a thought.
On freebmd there is a marriage
Jane Hutchins on the same page as a William Kingdon
Sep qtr 1899 Pontypridd 11a 910
There are a couple of Mary Hutchings/Hutchins/Hitchins births in Pontypridd in the few years prior to this date.
Could Mary have been before marriage of the man she considered her father and named on her marriage certificate - so using his name and then when registering births of children - depending on who registered them - went by either name.
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Jones, Davies, Evans, Williams, Daniel, Thomas - Glamorgan
Keen, Goodwin, Pyatt, Leese, Bailey, Loffill, Stubley, Brassington, Blurton, - Staffs
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osprey
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I can see a Jane Hitchins that could fit Mrs Kingdom
1881 14 Maxwell St, Ystradyfodwg RG11/5304 folio 34 pg 29
George Hitchins head mar 30 coal miner b. Aberdare
Eliza wife 31 b. Llangynwd
Elizabeth M dau 7 b. Aberdare
William son 5 b. Aberdare
Jane dau 2 b. Aberdare
David Jones boarder 23 coal miner b. Ystradgynlais
George remarries june qtr 1884 Pontypridd vol 11a pg 603
1891 16 Pleasant Hill, Home Penrhys, Tylorstown with Ferndale
George Hitchings head mar 43 coal miner b. Hirwain
Catherine wife 41 b. Treforest
Cath Anne dau 20 b. Abernant
William son 15 coal miner b. Cwmbach
Willie son 13 coal miner b. Cwmbach
Jane dau 12 b. Cwmbach
Maggie dau 11 b. Aberdare
Hannah dau 10 b. Abernant
Hannah Richards mother widow 66(?) b. Morriston
George remarries june qtr 1900 Pontypridd vol 11a pg 849 with Frances Jones on the same page
Jane Kingdom is in Ferndale in 1901. But it could be a coincidence.
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Cornwall: Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Kellett, Tebb
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