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a moore
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looking for William John Moore son of Samuel Moore and Jane Moore m/s Lightbody born around 1884 religion protestant
Moderator's Note: post edited to make it easier to read. Please use capital letters for the start of names.
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aghadowey
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You already have a thread under Co. Kildare looking for William. Do you have any idea where he might have been born? I would suggest cheking for birth registration in index on LDS Pilot site except that Moore is such a common surname that it would be impossible to find the correct one just from the index as you have only an approxiamate date.
www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,302058.msg2445357.html#msg24453
Have you found William in any census where his county of birth would be shown?
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a moore
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found him in New Jersey USA 1930 census where it gives birthplace Newtonards Ireland micro film roll 287.
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aghadowey
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It helps to include all relevent details, like birthplace, in your post to save others who are trying to help you needless confusion and duplication of effort.
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RosemaryJoan
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I have had a good look for your William John Moore. There is a birth registered in Newtownards for a William in 1882 April/June quarter, Vol 1 page 842
which MIGHT be him, but I can find no record of a marriage between Samuel Moore and Jane Lightbody. There are lots of Samuel Moores in the Newtownards area and also quite a few Lightbodys, but without any further clues we can't go any further. It might be worth getting the details of this birth.
Do you know when William went to New Jersey??
RosemaryJoan
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a moore
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He left on the SS SAMARIA on the 23rd OCT 1923 port of arrival was Boston Massachusetts port departed was Glasgow/Scotland thanks for your help
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aghadowey
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Have you found an exact date of birth in U.S. records yet? (Social Security death index or WWII registration cards for example)
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a moore
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No not yet was given a date through chat room 27th November 1884 but cant find this yet to say this is true think he would be 2 old for WW2 as his age was 43 in the 1930 census
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aghadowey
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"The Fourth Registration, often referred to as the "old man's registration", was conducted on 27 April 1942 and registered men who born on or between 28 April 1877 and 16 February 1897 - men who were between 45 and 64 years old - and who were not already in the military."
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RosemaryJoan
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Yes, he seems to be in 'the old man's draft' still in New Jersey, but it's on pay per view in Ancestry.co.uk.
This is an entry in the 1911 census for Co. Down
Jane Lightbody, head of household, single, cannot read, age 51, embroiderer, SINGLE born Co. Down
Samuel Lightbody, son age 15, labourer
Mary Lightbody, daughter age 13, spinner
Alexander Lightbody, son age 10, scholar
Agnes Lightbody, daughter, age 4, scholar
address, 32 Shuttfield Street, Newtownards.
Interesting.
There is a happily married Samuel Moore in Newtownards also.
Sorry, I have an active imagination
No sign of William John Moore. He may have been working elsewhere and is yet to be found.
RosemaryJoan
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a moore
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Tryed to find the old mans draft but couldnt the Willam John Moore was married in Kilwinning Ayrshire Scotland in 1909 have wedding cert for this he was a garden labourer can you tell me please who Samuel Moore was married to the one you mention in your last thread kind regards A Moore
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RosemaryJoan
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The Old Man's Draft was included in WW2 Army Enlistment Records 1938-46
You can find it in www.ancestry.co.uk . There is a WilliM J. Moore enlisting in New Jersey, but I don't have any tokens to view this record.
Now, back to Samuel Moore. There are two of the right age to be William John's father
1. Samuel,51, of 82 Church Street , farm worker, married to Margaret (Shannon)
2. Samuel Moore, 45, SINGLE, farmer's son, Whitespots, Newtownards living with his mother Mary, 72 and his sister Agnes.
The Jane Lightbody mentioned before did register her children's births. They are all on the LDS Pilot Scheme of Civil Registration indexes. I did notice a William John Lightbody born Jan/March 1885, Newtownards, but of course, no parents are given in this index and you would have to pay for a copy
There is one William John Moore born April/June 1888 in Newtownards
If you have William John's marriage record, what was his father's occupation? ?
RosemaryJoan
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a moore
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Hi RosemaryJoan i do have his fathers occupation he was a cart driver it does not say what his mother did William married a Maggie Johnston in 1909 it says his father was deceased have also found out that when regestering his first born son he stated that he married in Bangor Co Down in 10th Sept 1909/10 dont know if he was a bit forgetful if he was wetting the childs head he was 25 yrs old when he married Maggie was 26 had a child out of wed lock no W J Moores child was called voilet who we think was also born in ireland in 1905
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RosemaryJoan
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Dear a moore, Now that you have a marriage date, I think you should go to
www.groni.gov.uk
and ask for a copy of the marriage details
This will verify the father's names and addresses and give a wee bit more information
You can do it online, and they will do a search for about $6 and then issue a certificate if you think this is the right marriage.
There are so many Johnstons and Moores in the Newtownards area that it is almost impossible to pin William and Maggie down.
Let us know how you are doing.
RosemaryJoan
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a moore
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Hello Rosemary Joan.
Dont know what to do here as i have a copy of marriage cert when they married in scotland and it only states as follows William John Moore age 25 bachelor usual res Byres Road Kilwinning Samuel Moore cart driver deceased Jane Moore ms Lightbody.
Maggie Johnston spinster age 26 usual res Tornyard Kilwinning father Samuel Johnston bricklayer MaryAnn Johnston ms Mcdonald deceased
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