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Vasquez109
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Disappointing day
« on: Tuesday 07 April 09 22:09 UTC (UK) »

I have just come back from 2 days away, disappointed and broken.

I went to the Northamptonshire Records Office in high spirits and spent over 2 hours painstakingly searching microfiches and films and found absolutely nothing.

Before I went, I compiled a list of everything I wanted to find out. Took everything with me that id collected that I might need and set off. Booked a Travelodge at Silverstone (Not too far away), took my wife and took her shopping at Milton Keynes then headed off for the RO.

Over 2 days with petrol, shopping for my wife and accommodation ive spent nearly £100.

NOT VERY HAPPY!
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Re: Disappointing day
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 07 April 09 23:45 UTC (UK) »

I sympathise!  It is so disappointing after all the effort of getting organised for the big day and then a big fat zero.  I live abroad and have only once got to an RO but in my case the chairs were to blame.  So uncomfortable my back pain kicked in and that was that!

Although not the same I can understand your frustration.  But don't give up,
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Re: Disappointing day
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 07 April 09 23:48 UTC (UK) »

Thanks for your support  Smiley

Not sure what to do next now! ARGGH!
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Re: Disappointing day
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 08 April 09 06:23 UTC (UK) »

Hi Vasquez109.

Sorry to hear of your disappointment.

As you had a list of what you wanted to look for maybe if you could
note it here we maybe able to see if we could help with some of it.

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Re: Disappointing day
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 08 April 09 07:08 UTC (UK) »

Well, I hope your wife was happy with the shopping and the weekend away???


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Re: Disappointing day
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 08 April 09 07:14 UTC (UK) »

I've been to the RO lots of times looking in the parish that my ancestor has listed only to find they are not there. Then I have had to look parish by parish working out from the one I started with and low and behold there they were married in a parish 15 miles away. No connection what so ever but they both put down for the banns that they were of this parish. They lied through their teeth in those days as well. You need to think outside the box on these occasions, put your detective hat on and widen your search.
I agree time is money and very shot in this economical climate. Have you tried the local family history group? They often do look ups for you if you email the details?
Don't give up just keep at it and you will eventually find them.
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Re: Disappointing day
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 08 April 09 10:13 UTC (UK) »

Ok. Thanks everyone for raising my morale.

Heres what I already have:

William Stevenson b.1790/1 in Weston d. 19/09/1861 Brampton
m. Cottingham on 05/12/1816
Sarah Spriggs b. c.1795 Cottingham

(Firstly I realise more than one Parish called Weston. 99% it is Weston-by-Welland not Weston Favell. And secondly I have their marriage record and Williams death cert.).

Children are:

Thomas Stevenson b. 1819 Brampton Ash d.12/02/1905 Great Bowden
m. Brampton Ash 21/10/1839
Lucy Smith

John Stevenson b.1821 Brampton Ash d.1895. Buried on 11/05/1895 at Desborough Parish Church Aged 74.
m.
Sarah Walter/Walters

Elizabeth Stevenson b. c1826, Northamptonshire. (Details taken from 1841 census so age might be a rough guide).


Things I wanted to find:

i Baptism for William
ii Father/Mother for William
iii Any famiily for Sarah Spriggs
iv Baptism for Thomas
v Baptism for John
vi Marriage of John and Sarah Walter/Walters
vii Baptism for Elizabeth
viii Marriage for Eliz?
ix Death for Eliz?
x Info on Gt. Bowden Workhouse
xi Death of Sarah Spriggs
xii Other children baptised with parents William and Sarah at Brampton Ash

What I actually found:

i No-one with that surname baptised in that parish or surrounding ones
ii See i
iii Only found a burial in 1797 for a Hannah Spriggs (Is she even related?)
iv Brampton Ash Parish records only until 1812
v As above
vi Fiche I wanted someone was using it and writing lots of stuff so didnt disturb them
vii As iv
viii No trace (Searched about 8 local parishes)
ix No Trace (Maybe wasnt Eliz Stevenson when she died, no marriage found)
x At Leicestershire RO
xi Couldnt find anything under Spriggs or Stevenson
xii No one of that surname in Brampton Ash.

As you see I had an awful day.
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Re: Disappointing day
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 08 April 09 10:15 UTC (UK) »

Well, I hope your wife was happy with the shopping and the weekend away???


 Grin

Oh yes! She loves it when I want to go away to RO's! I almost got lost in Milton Keynes shopping centre! Almost had to use signal flares. Why is it so big???
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Yorkshire - Stamper, Boyes, Duke
London (Bethnal Green/Islington) - Harper, Wallis
Essex - Shelford, Wallis, Read
Hertfordshire - Bishop
Cornwall - Johns, Soper, Rowe, Ball, Collecott, Webb, Curgenven, Trevarton, Blamey, Dunn
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Re: Disappointing day
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 08 April 09 10:40 UTC (UK) »




  Hi Vasquez....

  Shame about the records after all the prep you had . As for the shops .... I worked there for 16 years and it seems small to me now............. I can be found in the library over the road Grin avoid the shops now.

  Ok .... John Stevenson & Sarah .. what is the first census they appear on as a married couple or age of first child?

   The marriage seems to be Kettering Dec 1849 which at the time covered Brampton Ash.
  I was surpised you say they only have Brampton Ash records to 1812 which in that case does not help? Is that something to do with not allowing LDS to film the records for viewing?

        Tazzie
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Re: Disappointing day
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 08 April 09 10:45 UTC (UK) »

Im not sure. But there was a really helpful lady there who gave me the details for the church wardens.

But as for John and Sarah, Miswritten in the 1851 census as 'Steveson' and miswritten in the 1861 census as 'Steaveson'.

First child was William Walter Stevenson b.30/03/1850, Desborough.

Do you need the other childrens details?
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Re: Disappointing day
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 08 April 09 10:58 UTC (UK) »

Hello Vasquez

Sorry to hear you had such an unsuccesful visit.

Do remember to keep a note of what and where you have searched so that you don't keep going over the same ground.

Hope you can make some progress with the help of the Northants experts.  Smiley

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Re: Disappointing day
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 08 April 09 11:01 UTC (UK) »

Yeah I've got an idea of what I've searched, but I understood that I might not find everything I wanted.

But 0/12???

How come there is not even a surname of mine in the parish? Does that sound weird to you?
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Derbyshire - Harlow
Yorkshire - Stamper, Boyes, Duke
London (Bethnal Green/Islington) - Harper, Wallis
Essex - Shelford, Wallis, Read
Hertfordshire - Bishop
Cornwall - Johns, Soper, Rowe, Ball, Collecott, Webb, Curgenven, Trevarton, Blamey, Dunn
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Re: Disappointing day
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 08 April 09 11:15 UTC (UK) »

Hi again

I am not familiar with Nothampton parishes but some reasons why you typically won't find records where you expect

People marry in parishes where they were not born/baptised. 

If they live near a parish boundary they may go to a more "convenient" church - need to check maps to identify distances, access etc

Were they non conformists?  There will be separate registers for these.  I believe that some denominations did not baptise infants.

Barbara
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Re: Disappointing day
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 08 April 09 11:21 UTC (UK) »

I checked the non conformist registers too! Nothing!
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Essex - Shelford, Wallis, Read
Hertfordshire - Bishop
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Re: Disappointing day
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 08 April 09 11:32 UTC (UK) »

Hi

FreeBMD has a marriage of a Sarah WALTER Dec Qtr 1849, Kettering Registration District Vol 15 Page 575 and one of the possible spouses was a John STEVENSON. The marriage certificate would name the church which may help.

Sorry tazzie, just saw your reference to Kettering.

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