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Dorsetsam
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Oxfordshire 1840s disease?
« on: Thursday 09 April 09 20:38 UTC (UK) »
Hi all,

Just wondering if anyone could take a look at the following family unit who were living in Chipping Norton (part of my family tree) and help explain the deaths:

Father:William Barnes 1791-?
Mother: Sarah Thomas 1790-?

Children:Joseph 1811-1855 (died at 54)
              Richard 1814 -1847 (died at 33)
              John 1816-1837 (died at 21)
              Mary 1819 - 1846 (died at 27)
              Soloman 1823-1844 (died at 20)
              Thomas 1825-1847 (died at 22)
              Benjamin 1827-1882

So between 1837-1847, five of the seven children died. We have been wondering if there was perhaps a cholera outbreak in the area or something similar. Does anyone have any idea or notice a similar pattern in their own trees? They were all labourers etc so obviously life was tough but we always assumed if you make it past childhood you'd have a fairly good innings (allowing for childbirth issues etc). Our family line comes from Benjamin, who moved to Cheltenham and was married there at 22 (1849)....

Can anyone shed any light on this???  Huh
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NEILKE
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Re: Oxfordshire 1840s disease?
« Reply #1 on: Friday 10 April 09 07:29 UTC (UK) »
hi dorsetsam
i will keep an eye on this post my 2x great grandfathers family came from cumnor berkshire now part of oxfordshire only 2 kids made it to adulthood this was out of 7 kids he lost both parents when he was 4 these are my flaxen branch.
regards neil
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kenny from ireland befre moveing to north shields  flaxen/flexon from cumnor then sunderland robinson from rothbury then north shields urqhart somewhere in scotland then sunderland
nanny jan
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Re: Oxfordshire 1840s disease?
« Reply #2 on: Friday 10 April 09 08:05 UTC (UK) »
Hi,

The death certificates will give the cause of death (illness or accident) but with 10 years between the death of John (1837) and Thomas (1847) I would have thought it unlikely to be a cholera outbreak; the deaths would be much closer together.


Nanny Jan
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Carmela
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Re: Oxfordshire 1840s disease?
« Reply #3 on: Friday 10 April 09 08:39 UTC (UK) »
It could have been TB, as this was a disease that seemed to
kill a lot of people in their late teens and twenties, whereas cholera and smallpox, etc. tended to kill mostly the very young and the very old. TB would also fit with the 5 deaths over 10 years.

Carmela
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amber39
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Re: Oxfordshire 1840s disease?
« Reply #4 on: Friday 10 April 09 09:22 UTC (UK) »
I agree with Carmela it was probably TB as there is a similar example in my tree.
Out of 10 daughters and 1 son ,  5 of the daughters died of TB within ten years also the mother and 1 grandaughter in the next 5 years.

Mother aged 60
Daughters aged 18,21,22,24, and 28 respectively.
Granddaughter aged 16 .
I have all their death certificates.

Regards  Amber39
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Re: Oxfordshire 1840s disease?
« Reply #5 on: Friday 10 April 09 20:53 UTC (UK) »
Hi

TB was one of the biggest killers of the 19th century.

Ben
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Dorsetsam
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Re: Oxfordshire 1840s disease?
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 11 April 09 08:38 UTC (UK) »

Thanks for all the replies - TB does certainly seem to make sense. Amber39 and NEILKE that is really interesting and just like our situation - it certainly seems that there wasn't a 'safe' time in anyone's life (e.g. post childhood) was there?

Thanks again for all the help  Cheesy
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