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Topic: Breads - Baker - Parker in Rye area (Read 257 times)
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nickwass
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First post on the forum so please bear with me.
I have family history going back to around 1790ish but then there is a gap. My family have always stated that we are related to John Breads (or Breeds) who was executed in 1743 for the murder of Allen Grebell in Rye, Sussex.
The connection I was told was that his sister Mary married a man named Baker and that one of their children named Anne (or Ann) married a Jim Parker who provides the line forward. But the dates don't add up. There seems to be a generation missing after John Breads.
As I am new to all this I wondered if anyone had any info on this line or maybe where to go and look?
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wendy47
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Hi nickwass & welcome to Rootschat
Have you tried http://www.familysearch.org/eng/search/frameset_search.asp?PAGE=/eng/search/ancestorsearchresults.asp
There are quite a few Breads/Breeds in Rye so you may find a link
Wendy 
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VEAL, PRICE, STURGE, BELLET, DREW, TAYLOR Som/Glos
COTTERELL, NAPPER, NASH, FLEETWOOD, HANDLEY, COLLINS Hereford
NASH, TYLER Warks, Kent
CROWE, REYNOLDS, BEARMAN Suflk/Essx/Middx
Abraham CARLSON/CHARLSON Sweden/E Ldn
COX Wilts
STILES, DORTON Middx, Surrey
"Fisher" HALLUM London? HANSTEY, MARSHALL Northumberland
ELDRIDGE, ALDRIDGE, STILES, DORTON Ldn RAGLESS, NYE Sussex
FEGAN, LOUGHLIN Down
CLAYTON SWEENY Cork
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Stovepipe
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nickwass,
From the SMI:
Place: Rye, East Sussex
Date: 15 Feb 1693/4
Subject: Mary BREEDES, sp
Spouse: Walter BACKER
The IGI has a few BAKER baptisms in Rye with Walter and Mary as parents - all submitted and no child named Ann(e).
The SMI has no 18th century marriage James/Jas/Jim PARKER to Ann(e) BAKER/BACKER. Maybe Ann used another name - was she a widow when she married Jim?
Stovepipe
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nickwass
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Thanks you Wendy and Stovepipe.
The trouble I have is no certainty of dates before 1869. Everything before that is simply what my mother tells me and was passed on to her.
I have (as a start for this anyway) a Jessie Parker b1869 don't know where.
father Jim Parker and mother Sarah Radford. He may have had a brother named Reuben.
Jim Parker's father is also Jim Parker married to (apparently) Ann(e) Baker
Anne Baker is supposed to be the daughter of XX Baker and Mary Baker (nee Breads or Breeds).
The family history says that Mary Baker (nee Breads) was the sister of John Breads, the man executed in 1743 in Rye for murdering Allen Grebell. (Loads of stuff on the web about that.)
I don't think there are enough generations there to get us back to around 1740/50. Or am I wrong?
Also I am only saying Rye as this is where John Breads was - beyond that I can only be sure of Sussex.
The Parkers were all from Sussex - apparently smugglers.
What is the SMI please? Sorry but I'm very new to this.]
The Breedes/Backer marriage is 1693/4? It sounds like the right names.
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Chris in 1066Land
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Hi nickwass
Found these in my database from a census taken in 1660 in RYE
Area Surname Forename Info Occupation
Market Breads Mary widow of George Labourer
Market Breads Barthol ~ Cordwainer
Market Breads Barthol son of Barthol Breads ~
Middlestreet Breads John servant of Thomas Greenfield Servant
Put them on the back burner for future reference
Incidentally the SMI is the Sussex Marriage Index
Chris in 1066
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Chris in 1066Land
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Hi again
The SMI also had this marriage
Rye, East Sussex, Date: 15 Feb 1693/4:
Mary BREEDES, spinster & Walter BACKER
Depending on your brogue/dialect it could have been BAKER
but sorry, there are NO Jim Parkers listed in the SMI at all prior to 1837
Chris in 1066
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wendy47
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1871 Cesus for Sherriff Hutton Yorkshire
James Parker 39 Head Police Constable b Findon Sussex
Sarah Parker 32 Wife b London Middx
Mary Ann Parker 11 b Warrington Lancs
Annie E Parker 9 b Barnstable Devon
Arthur J Parker 6 b Redmire Yorks
Jane E Parker 4 b North Allerton Yorks
Jessie Parker 2 b Sherriff Hutton Yorkshire
Walter J Parker 1 month b Sherriff Hutton Yorkshire
Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 4827; Folio: 97; Page: 18;
Wendy
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VEAL, PRICE, STURGE, BELLET, DREW, TAYLOR Som/Glos
COTTERELL, NAPPER, NASH, FLEETWOOD, HANDLEY, COLLINS Hereford
NASH, TYLER Warks, Kent
CROWE, REYNOLDS, BEARMAN Suflk/Essx/Middx
Abraham CARLSON/CHARLSON Sweden/E Ldn
COX Wilts
STILES, DORTON Middx, Surrey
"Fisher" HALLUM London? HANSTEY, MARSHALL Northumberland
ELDRIDGE, ALDRIDGE, STILES, DORTON Ldn RAGLESS, NYE Sussex
FEGAN, LOUGHLIN Down
CLAYTON SWEENY Cork
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wendy47
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Marriages Jun 1859
Clarke Thomas Whitechapel 1c 732
Parker James Whitechapel 1c 732
Radford Sarah Whitechapel 1c 732
Wilson Lilliass Christina Whitechapel 1c 732
Wendy
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VEAL, PRICE, STURGE, BELLET, DREW, TAYLOR Som/Glos
COTTERELL, NAPPER, NASH, FLEETWOOD, HANDLEY, COLLINS Hereford
NASH, TYLER Warks, Kent
CROWE, REYNOLDS, BEARMAN Suflk/Essx/Middx
Abraham CARLSON/CHARLSON Sweden/E Ldn
COX Wilts
STILES, DORTON Middx, Surrey
"Fisher" HALLUM London? HANSTEY, MARSHALL Northumberland
ELDRIDGE, ALDRIDGE, STILES, DORTON Ldn RAGLESS, NYE Sussex
FEGAN, LOUGHLIN Down
CLAYTON SWEENY Cork
PROBABLE IMPOSSIBILITIES ARE TO BE PREFERRED TO IMPROBABLE POSSIBILITIES - ARISTOTLE
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nickwass
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Wendy47
That's them for sure. I have all these names handed down to me and even what jobs they all had.
OK, now I have somewhere to go from.
Thanks for your lookup.
I am receiving some help looking back further and the names that Chris has suggested look like they may be useful.
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