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philrob
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Bradley(s) from Worcester c 1849.
« on: Friday 10 April 09 13:08 UTC (UK) »

Greetings to you all,  Grin
I have an ELEANOR BRADLEY born approximately 1849 to William and Lucy Bradleys of Worcester. Eleanor married JAMES ANDERSEN (of Denmark) in 1865 and had several children. Her daughter LUCY CAROLINE ANDERSON (born in Liverpool in 1873) later married ROBERT MATTHEW ROBERTSON in Liverpool in 1897.
Lucy's siblings icluded Edron (Edwin), Charles, George, James and Mary.

I would like to find out more about the Bradley(s) side of the family if there is any connection with any of your family trees.

Best Regards from Western Australia

Philrob
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Mum44
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Re: Bradley(s) from Worcester c 1849.
« Reply #1 on: Friday 10 April 09 13:30 UTC (UK) »



Hello Philrob  Smiley

I'm not connected to this family, but I just did a look-up for them.

In 1881 Eleanor says she was born 1839 in Shipston on Stour, Worcestershire.

I have found an Elenor Bradley b. 1839 with her family in both 1841 census and 1851,  but her parents are Edwin and Lucy, not William and Lucy  Huh

Is this the right person do you think, or should I look again?

Where did the name of Eleanor's father come from ?
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Re: Bradley(s) from Worcester c 1849.
« Reply #2 on: Friday 10 April 09 13:47 UTC (UK) »

Births Mar qtr. 1839.
Bradley Elenor. Shipston-on-Stour.    11. 370.
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Re: Bradley(s) from Worcester c 1849.
« Reply #3 on: Friday 10 April 09 13:55 UTC (UK) »


Hello Jim  -  I found that too, but I'm a bit confused by Phil saying her father was William  Huh 

The family in 1881 census - which includes Lucy Caroline b. 1873 - is obviously the right one from that end - James born Denmark et al - but the information doesn't match at the 1841/1851 end  Huh  Cheesy

There is am IGI bap for an Ellen Bradley in Shipston in 1849  -  the year Phil gave for Elenor's birth -  but the parents of that Ellen were George and Sarah  Huh

Think I'll wait til Phil comes back and confirms -  date of birth she gives on the census is 1839  -  Shipston is same - Lucy as mother - it's just William as father which doesn't tick the box  Huh
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Re: Bradley(s) from Worcester c 1849.
« Reply #4 on: Friday 10 April 09 14:27 UTC (UK) »

Hi Mum44,

Some one as got what looks like this Eleanor on the Pedigree Resource File, Individual Record on Familysearch.org. born 1839, but with ADRAM Bradley as father and Lucy as mother.

Jim
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Re: Bradley(s) from Worcester c 1849.
« Reply #5 on: Friday 10 April 09 14:33 UTC (UK) »



He is named as Adram on the 1851 and Edwin in 1841  -   Roll Eyes

The surname in 1841 is Bradly without the E  Roll Eyes

In 1861 Lucy is a widow.  To make things more complicated, there is no death reg. Shipston between 1851 and 1861 for either an Edwin or an Adram   Roll Eyes
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Re: Bradley(s) from Worcester c 1849.
« Reply #6 on: Friday 10 April 09 15:12 UTC (UK) »

Dear Mum 44 and Jim 1212,
I am astonished that I have received such a fast reply (just over one hour!) to my first posting on this forum - thank you both very much.
My info re William came from a family member who had completed an investigation into the family history several years ago. I do believe that most of that searching was done by word of mouth so there are probably some holes in the findings. I have to say that I do not have definite proof of Eleanor's parents being William and Lucy.

What I have found particularly interesting is that Mum44 has used both the names for the parents as being Edwin and Lucy which appear in the next generation. This seems to be without checking probably more likely to be correct.

Thank you both for your interest and thought provoking answers.

Best Regards,

Philrob from Western Australia
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Re: Bradley(s) from Worcester c 1849.
« Reply #7 on: Friday 10 April 09 15:32 UTC (UK) »



Phil  - hi

First - Do you have the census records for Eleanor ?  If not would you like them ?

Second - it would seem to be a good idea to obtain something definite by way of documentation for Eleanor's family background, and I suggest that her marriage certificate would be the most useful at this point;  it will show her father's name  Cheesy
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Liverpool : Horsfall, Prescott
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Re: Bradley(s) from Worcester c 1849.
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 11 April 09 13:51 UTC (UK) »

Hi,

I think her father's name is Edron, both christenings are extracted records on the IGI,

Edron BRADLEY
Christening:  25 JAN 1788   Shipston-On-Stour, Worcester
Father:  Daniel BRADLEY
Mother:  Betty

OR

Edson BRADLEY
Christening:  About 18 JUL 1788   Shipston-On-Stour, Worcester
Father:  Edson BRADLEY
Mother:  Elizabeth



Edron BRADLY
Spouse:  Lucy BRADLY
Marriage:  24 MAY 1824   Shipston-On-Stour, Worcester
 
 
Eleanor BRADLEY
Age: 26
Father's Name: Edron BRADLEY
Spouse: James ANDERSON
Age: 28
Father's Name: Nelson ANDERSON
Marriage : 12 Oct 1865,  Edge Hill, Lancashire


Looking at the 1871 & 1881 census for Eleanor ANDERSON it looks like she named her eldest son after her father,

Birth
Edron ANDERSON    Sep Q 1866    West Derby    8b  512


Regards
Daisy
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Re: Bradley(s) from Worcester c 1849.
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 11 April 09 14:35 UTC (UK) »



Well found Daisy   Grin

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Re: Bradley(s) from Worcester c 1849.
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 11 April 09 15:30 UTC (UK) »

Dear Mum44, Jim 1212 and Daisypetal,
Thank you for your interest and wonderful discussion. I have sent off this morning for the marriage certificate for Eleanor. It should be here in about two to three weeks. I will post information on the site after it arrives from UK.

Thanks again for your efforts,  Cheesy

philrob in West OZ
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Re: Bradley(s) from Worcester c 1849.
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 11 April 09 15:48 UTC (UK) »

Thanks Mum44 Smiley


I just wish I could find his death, I've looked on the images from 1851 to 1861 under BRADLEY and BRADLY but can't see him at all, maybe a bad mistranscription of his name or I just missed it Sad

I have found this death,

Edron BRADLEY    Mar Q 1850     Shipston On Stour    11  335

but I think he is the 'other' Edron living here in 1841, HO107/120/12  f.26  p.8 Shipston On Stour.


Daisy
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Re: Bradley(s) from Worcester c 1849.
« Reply #12 on: Friday 01 May 09 05:05 UTC (UK) »

Dear Readers,

I received yesterday the marriage certificate for Eleanor Bradley and James Anderson. Eleanor's father was confirmed as EDRON - mother  was Lucy.

Best Regards,

Phil in West OZ
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Re: Bradley(s) from Worcester c 1849.
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 02 May 09 14:49 UTC (UK) »

Hi Phil

I have just registered with Rootschat and was interested to hear that you want to find our more about the Bradleys from Worcester.  I too am researching this family, in particular Caroline, Eleanor Bradley's elder sister.  I have some information on Eleanor that might be of interest.  Now you have the marriage cert. you know that her father was Edron Bradley and her mother was Lucy Bradley (yes same surname).

Eleanor was born on 5 March 1839 in Shipston on Stour (I have her birth cert).  She moved to Liverpool as according to the 1861 census she was working for the Fisher family in Liverpool who were West Indian Merchants.  She went on to marry James Anderson from Denmark (as you know) and had 10 children (that I know of).  She died on 31 July 1907 and is buried in Toxteth Cemetery, Liverpool with 4 of her children Maria Catherine, George Henry, Frederick, Charles Henry and her nephew Albert.  Also her mother Lucy who died in August 1891 aged 97.

Best wishes
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Re: Bradley(s) from Worcester c 1849.
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 02 May 09 15:00 UTC (UK) »

Dear Hilbe,
How wonderful to receive a reply such as yours!  Grin

Thank you so much. I am happy to share any information re common names in our family so please do not hesitate to ask if I can be of assistance to you. I am tickled pink that you can provide this information to me re the Bradleys Any further info you wish to pass on would be warmly welcomed.
Thanks again for your kind thought!

Best Regards,

philrob in Western Australia
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