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fred111
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Old Morpeth
« on: Friday 10 April 09 21:57 UTC (UK) »
Hi there,
Does anyone have any information about Bullers Green?
I think it may have been a village which is now part of Morpeth.
A famous millwright, John Rastrick was born in Bullers Green in 1780.
My ancestor, James Summerville was born in Morpeth in 1796, but moved to Newcastle before 1841.
According to later censuses, some Summervilles lived in Bullers Green, so it is possible that James lived or worked in Bullers Green.
Does anyone know if  there is any evidence that there were any mills in the Bullers Green area?
Any information about mills in Bullers Green or the Morpeth area as a whole would be most welcome.
Thanks in advance.
Liz
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Re: Old Morpeth
« Reply #1 on: Friday 10 April 09 23:11 UTC (UK) »
Hi Liz,

Interesting article here, and if you click on 'older pages' at the bottom of the article, you can then click on another article about an old mill

http://www.morpethherald.co.uk/CustomPages/CustomPage.aspx?PageID=34373&sectionID=6262
 


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Re: Old Morpeth
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 11 April 09 09:07 UTC (UK) »
Have a look at this map on the Northumberland Communities site http://communities.northumberland.gov.uk/008528FS.htm and you can see the location of Bullers Green in the north-western corner, at the northern end of Silver Street.

This 1860 map on the same site http://communities.northumberland.gov.uk/005116FS.htm indicates the presence of a 'Steam Mill (Corn)' close by.
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Re: Old Morpeth
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 11 April 09 14:12 UTC (UK) »
Thats so interesting, thank you both.
I have a friend who researches, photographs, writes & gives talks about old mills,.
He will be interested too.
The famous millwright, John Rastrick lived in Newgate St  - at 136. I wonder if it is still there and near the Dyers Cottage mentioned in the article.
Many thanks again
Liz
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Re: Old Morpeth
« Reply #4 on: Friday 15 May 09 12:15 UTC (UK) »
Hi Fred

Morpeth is my home town and Buller's Green is still at the top end of Newgate Street on the road out north to Alnwick.
Newgate Street stretches away from the town centre, the number suggests this would be somewhere up towards Buller Green.
I can't think of any mills that were up that end of the town, there is certainly an old mill next to the river in the centre of town 'Oliver's Mill' - now converted like many old buildings into Apartments.

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Re: Old Morpeth
« Reply #5 on: Friday 15 May 09 14:25 UTC (UK) »
Hi Morpethian Smiley

Welcome to Rootschat Grin

I am really interested in Morpeth in general as my Purdys are from there and Bullers Green is the address of them on 1841 Census. ( they were market gardeners)

In 1851 they were at 12 Newgate Street.

I just wondered if 12 still exists Huh

Myg/g/grandfather James was born there 1828 and ended up in NZ via Australia.

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Trish
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Re: Old Morpeth
« Reply #6 on: Friday 15 May 09 14:46 UTC (UK) »
There is still a 12 Newgate Street, accoding the the Post Office. http://www.rootschat.com/links/06az/
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Re: Old Morpeth
« Reply #7 on: Friday 15 May 09 15:17 UTC (UK) »

Thankyou JenB Smiley
You are an angel Smiley

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Re: Old Morpeth
« Reply #8 on: Friday 15 May 09 15:25 UTC (UK) »
Sorry that the link I gave (which included the address and a map) has time-expired. try this one to search the address. http://postcode.royalmail.com/portal/rm/postcodefinder?catId=400145

A few interesting old pictures here http://communities.northumberland.gov.uk/Morpeth_C4.htm
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Re: Old Morpeth
« Reply #9 on: Friday 15 May 09 15:30 UTC (UK) »

Thanks, I hadnt actually checked it yet as I was off making a cup of tea etc Grin

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Re: Old Morpeth
« Reply #10 on: Friday 15 May 09 15:31 UTC (UK) »
Hi Trish

The lower numbers of Newgate Street are business units, I believe 12 is now an Italian restaurant but I can double check for you over the weekend. When you look at the premises most of the shops look as though they have/had living quarters above them.
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« Reply #11 on: Friday 15 May 09 15:36 UTC (UK) »
Hi,

Thank you so much. I would really appreciate any info you can provide Smiley

Cheers,
Trish
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My Amazing Mother 1912-1982
Re: Old Morpeth
« Reply #12 on: Friday 15 May 09 15:39 UTC (UK) »
Hi Fred,

I just realised by your dates that my ancestors and yours would have been neighbours/had kids that played together and/or were friends Smiley
Thomas Purdy was born 1796 and his parents were there before that Wink and also the Reays.

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Re: Old Morpeth
« Reply #13 on: Friday 15 May 09 16:17 UTC (UK) »

A wee bit of TRIVIA on Newgate St, Morpeth.

Odd house numbers are riverside. Even numbers are on east side of street.

Today, 94 Newgate St houses the Register Office ( Now entitled "Northumberland Central" Registration District.)

I think these premises  once housed the Girls Grammar school. Am not sure cos I went to boys school up Cottingwood Lane, and never the twain were to meet !

12 Newgate St would have been some sort of commercial premises e.g. shop

Trade Directories.
Piggot's, 1834 edition lists Thomas Purdy twice under Gardeners and Seedsmen, once at Bullers Green, once at Newgate St.
( Source "Printed Material" section in the Morpeth Community of
communities.northumberland.gov.uk)

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Re: Old Morpeth
« Reply #14 on: Friday 15 May 09 16:26 UTC (UK) »


Cont.,,,

John Purdy also in Pigot's 1834 under Gardeners & Seedsmen.

Also Thomas Purdy under Miscellaneous section, at Bridge End.

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