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CaroleW
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Barney 1993-2005
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Hi
Do you have a copy of Matthews marriage certificate which would show his fathers name
This is the 1841 Ripley census entry for Matthew. The gap in ages between John & Matthew could suggest that Elizabeth may be a second wife. All born in county (Derbyshire) except Luke
Luke Gill 40 framework knitter - not b Derbyshire
Elizabeth 40
John 15
Matthew 5
Oliver 4
Mary Ann 2
HO107 Piece 190/2 Folio 5 Page 2
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CaroleW
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1851 for Ripley
Elizabeth Gill 52 widow b Greasley Nottingham
Matthew 15 b Ripley framework knitter
Mark 14 b Ripley (not on 1841)
Samuel Wall 40 lodger b Greasley
HO107 Piece 2145 Folio 115 Page 16
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CaroleW
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1861 for High St Ripley - I have checked the 1841 again but cannot find Mark. I wonder if he is "Oliver" as there is nothing for Oliver after 1841 and no death/marriage
Elizabeth Gill 64 b Notts
Matthew 25 b Ripley
Mark 24 b Ripley
RG9 Piece 2511 Folio 106 Page 30
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CaroleW
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I can't find them on the 1871 at the moment nor can I find a marriage on freebmd
There is a Matthew Gill marriage in the June qtr of 1863 Basford and there are an uneven number of male/female names on the same page. I have checked the full GRO index for both Lois Hurst and Lois Wright but there is no corresponding entry
I checked the 1851 census and she appears to have been Lois Hunt - the 1881 has her b Kilbourn Derbyshire 1838 but again - there is no Lois Hunt on the full GRO index for the June qtr of 1863
Deaths December qtr 1888
GILL Matthew aged 51 Belper 7b 313
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CaroleW
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Hi
There's one way to solve it. You can order a copy of the 1863 marriage entry but put a condition on the application that you only want it if spouse was Lois (don't put a surname)
You must fill in the reference checking sheet which is accessed by pressing the reference checking button near the bottom of the page, and fill in all the fields that you would like the entry to be checked against before you press the 'Submit' button
If it's the wrong one - the GRO will only charge a £3 search fee
Marriages June qtr 1863
Matthew GILL Basford 7b 169
You can order online at
www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/
If you find they did marry - you can write out 100 times - "My great great grandmother was not a tart"
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sunflower
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The marriage that Carole W found for the June Q 1863 is this one
Matthew Gill & Ann Gent 03.04. 1863 at Selston Notts.
I noticed that Luke Gill married Elizabeth Wall in Selston, so there may be a connection.
Carol (the other one)
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CaroleW
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I've just checked the 1871 for Matthew and Ann and they were both b Notts - Bagthorpe and are also both on the 1881
What is perhaps odd is that Matthew was also a framework knitter but so were a lot of others on the same page.
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