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Re: REED, HUNT, BROOKS, DEACON
« Reply #15 on: Friday 22 May 09 21:14 UTC (UK) »

i dont know if it will help or not.but there were a greaty many reeds around chissec(i cant spell i am afraid)the reeds and the hearns all lived in the area of nottinghill late 1800s and early 1900s.the hearns often used the surname taylor!!!!!!alot of the reeds worked for fullers brewery and a lot a vegatable stalls round the markets.mary horner just told me this.shes not well at the moment but will try and help further soon.the hunts by the way very often went under the name huntley and there were also quite a few bartletts in the area.
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Re: REED, HUNT, BROOKS, DEACON
« Reply #16 on: Saturday 23 May 09 00:55 UTC (UK) »

Hi Cathay
Thats interesting. Nottinghill rears its head again.
Albert hunt "married" isabel Smith/Taylor daughter of Atherlia Taylor and Sam Smith.
They ended up in Acton.
They were all known as vegetable and flower hawkers.
The hunts I have manged to track down its the Reeds that are causing me the headache.
But we are folllowing a lead on the Baker name.
The biggest problem is Mary Ann Reed possibly Baker.
I have her marriage cert and death cert but struggling for her birth cert.
Found a Aaron baker with his wife Ada and children Mary Ann and William on the 1881 census.
mary Anns   was 4 yrs old so making her birth year 1886/1887 which co incides with her marriage cert in 1905.
Problem we have is we dont know where she was born and where she was registered.
this is The first time I have heard the name Huntley as well.
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Re: REED, HUNT, BROOKS, DEACON
« Reply #17 on: Saturday 23 May 09 01:01 UTC (UK) »

Correction sorry not the 1881 census but the 1891 census!
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Re: REED, HUNT, BROOKS, DEACON
« Reply #18 on: Saturday 23 May 09 19:32 UTC (UK) »

clutching at straws really.just posting anything at all i can find on the reads.!!!

William Giddins was born in Chatham Kent. in 1888 His mother was Kate ( nee Marks, Reed then Giddins ) He had 3 sisters Jane Sarah and Louise and a brother bertie. his first mariage was to my nan Rose Anne Hedges and they had eleven children 2 of whom died.
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Re: REED, HUNT, BROOKS, DEACON
« Reply #19 on: Saturday 23 May 09 19:33 UTC (UK) »

and this bit!!!

Jack Read 1899 Sx,Married, to Patience Fuller b1901,--------Parents.William George Read 1866 Isle of Wight Hants,Married Matilda Reen 1859 Sx----------Parents.John Read 1815 Hants,Married 1858, to Mary Richards b1836 Hants,John also Married a Eliza Cull b1818,----------James Read 1778 Hants,Married Mary Ball b1780 Hants
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Re: REED, HUNT, BROOKS, DEACON
« Reply #20 on: Sunday 24 May 09 19:48 UTC (UK) »

have you seen the other thread onhere with reed spelt reid?posting it here anyway as i dont know how to do a link!!!!dinlow i am!!!!!

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    REID George & Betsey Dover 1881
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hello, some help needed, i have this family living in a caravan in charlton near dover,
george reid born 1852,maidstone,
betsey wife born 1852,sittingbourne,
eliza born dau  1873,canterbury,
george   son   born 1878,sittingbourne,
mary ann   dau  born 1880,maidstone
phobee   sister  born 1864,canterbury,
can anyone find a marriage for this couple!
can you find a tie to rossiters!
heres a challenge ive yet to solve, any thoughts, ideas will be much appreciated.
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    Re: REID George & Betsey Dover 1881
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 17 May 09 22:04 BST (UK) »   

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"Tie to Rossiters"?

Would that be before or after 1881?
Do you know Betsey's maiden name?

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    Re: REID George & Betsey Dover 1881
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 17 May 09 22:16 BST (UK) »   

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Hi pauline,
im hoping that betsey is a rossiter and that phoebe is her sister.
With the help of Nelwild, weve narrowed this down to the phoebe rossiter who married stephen baker in 1889?
Think i found george on censuses without a sister phoebe.
Grabbing at straws i know, but got to start somewhere!
thanks.
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    Re: REID George & Betsey Dover 1881
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 17 May 09 22:28 BST (UK) »   

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shane,sorry to throw a spanner in the works but george reid born brenchley might not be him,theres a george reed born 1852 brenchley on the 1881,ag lab,married to esther,on the 1901 he has a son luke,the same as george reids fathers name on 1871.cant be sure,but the brenchley ones dont sound like travellers,nel. 
 
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    Re: REID George & Betsey Dover 1881
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 17 May 09 22:36 BST (UK) »   

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Cheers Nel,
didnt see that one!
hopefully someone will give us a break!
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    Re: REID George & Betsey Dover 1881
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 21 May 09 16:10 BST (UK) »   

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Hi Shane

There is a Phoebe READ/REED/REID born Canterbury about that time - her father was George so perhaps she did have a brother George too which would probably dismiss her from being the Phoebe ROSSITER you was looking for

George REED m Eliza RANSLEY Canterbury 1849 http://freebmd.rootsweb.com

Children Phebe, Celia & Eliza baptised Canterbury 1872 http://www.familysearch.org

1851 - in carts, Doddington, Kent

George READ head mar 22 traveller b.Sandwich
Eliza wife 22 b.Cranbrook
Henry son 7m b.Reading Kent

HO107/1626 folio 518 page 25
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1871 - Orlestone, Kent (no birthplaces given for any of them)

George READ head mar 40 hawker
Eliza wife 40
James son 13
Samson son 11
Polly dau 8
Pheobe dau 6
Albert son 3
Celia son (sic) 1

RG10/960 folio 65 page 17
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1881

George READ head mar 52 gen lab b.Sandwich kent
Elizabeth wife 52 b.Sandwich Kent

RG11/969 folio 114 page 12

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Re: REED, HUNT, BROOKS, DEACON
« Reply #21 on: Monday 25 May 09 22:51 UTC (UK) »

My cousin Alan found a 1901 census for Aaron Baker his wife ANNIE this time
not ada. with some children at 14 Baildon Street Deptford.
No sign of Mary ann or Polly as she was known but she would have been old enough to be a servant or something.
Funnily enough we cant find George Hunt either. He could have been in the Boar war
Thanks for the other options, Ill take a gander.
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Re: REED, HUNT, BROOKS, DEACON
« Reply #22 on: Thursday 04 June 09 20:50 UTC (UK) »

Hi
Just an update.
Annie Reed nee Brooks died in Sept qtr 1903 and Aaron Baker/Reed married an Isabella Bridgeman nearly 18 years younger than himself
They married in 1904
Found them on the 1911 census at no 4 Baildon St Deptford.
also with them was a daughter aged 13 Ester Baker (who belonged to Annie) and
Isabellas father William Francis Bridgeman.
Although he is listed as baker on census he married Isabella under the name of Reed
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Re: REED, HUNT, BROOKS, DEACON
« Reply #23 on: Thursday 11 June 09 02:06 UTC (UK) »

Hi everyone
Just an update,
I now have mary Ann Reed's birth cert.
She was born as READ 1887 in Mill Lane Deptford to Aaron Reed and Annie brooks.
I also have aarons' birth cert and he was born in Union Workhouse  Westwell West Ashford to a Eleanor Anne Reed no father mentioned in Feb 1867.
KSD mentioned that an aaron baker married an Ellen Read.
I think Ellen could be a shortned name for Eleanor???
I might send away for that marriage cert.
Also I found a birth record for a Eleanor a Read in 1845 in west Ashford Kent.
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Reed in Peckham could originate in Ireland
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Re: REED, HUNT, BROOKS, DEACON
« Reply #24 on: Thursday 11 June 09 10:14 UTC (UK) »

Hi,

don't know if anyone else has posted this?

1871 census Kent, Stowting.

Travelling woman in road

? (no first name) Read age 26
Charlotte age 6 willsborough Kent
Aaron age 4 Hothfield Kent
Roseannah 2 Peasmarsh Sussex

Below them in 1871 are
Margeret Baker 20 not known
Ellen M Baker 10 months not known


1881 census Crayford Kent
John Baker age 45 maidstone - chair binder
Eleanor (wife) age 39 pedlar - bridgen
Charlotte age 16 Willobury
Hernan age 14 Otfield
Rose 11 peasmarsh
Phoebe 9 Tenterden
Julia 7 Tenterden

If this is the right family it might explain how Aaron Read became Aaron Baker.

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Re: REED, HUNT, BROOKS, DEACON
« Reply #25 on: Thursday 11 June 09 20:10 UTC (UK) »

I have a copy of the birth certificate for Phoebe Reed who was born on 5th January 1872.  No father given but mother is Eleanor Reed.  The address is given as Bridsisle (?) Tenterden.

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Re: REED, HUNT, BROOKS, DEACON
« Reply #26 on: Thursday 18 June 09 19:11 UTC (UK) »

I have now got the marriage certificate for Ellen Read who marriage Aaron Baker 1872 at Tenterden.  Not much help and really difficult to read.  For the ages, it says," Full age both".  Fathers are William Read and Benjamin Baker.

It must have been a joint wedding as an Eliza Baker got married on the same day with the same witnesses.  She married a John Wilson.   
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Re: REED, HUNT, BROOKS, DEACON
« Reply #27 on: Saturday 18 July 09 18:52 UTC (UK) »

At last someone else researching our line.  Aaron & Eliza are brother and sister, two of the children of Benjamin Baker and Hannah Haffenden or Ovendean, depending on the birth cerificate you look at.  Eliza was born on 20 Oct 1851 & Margarer on 24 Jul 1854, both registered in Sellinge Kent.

John Wilson first appears on 1851 census in Mrs Fulbrooks barn in Dallingtion Sx, with Sarah Wilson, his mother, and Richard Reed, his father?.  He is said to have been born in Westfield Sx and is in the registers there.

Eliza and John marry in 1872 in Tenterden, but in the 1871 census they state they are married (surname Reed) and have a daughter Lydia and three neices surname Baker with them as well. Boarsisle & Birdsisle are what is now known as St Michaels.

John died 3 Feb 1907 and is buried in St Michaels churchyard as John Wilson Reed, also in the grave are Eliza and their daughter Kate (Bugden)
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Re: REED, HUNT, BROOKS, DEACON
« Reply #28 on: Sunday 19 July 09 09:13 UTC (UK) »

That's quite a bit of information to take in at one go and leaves me with lots of questions.

Do you know when Aaron Baker was born?

One of the witnesses on the marriage certificates for Eliza and Aaron is an Adolphous Hurst/Hunt???

Does the name Bridget Reed mean anything to you?  On her marriage certificate she gives her father as David Reed, hawker. 
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Re: REED, HUNT, BROOKS, DEACON
« Reply #29 on: Sunday 19 July 09 16:58 UTC (UK) »

Your rapid reply has sent us to search through our old books etc for the original sources and so far no luck.  We have the reference to Aaron somewhere, please bear with us.  It is a most wandering route through Sussex and Kent that the family tread and we think we have them all.  But some may need a further shake of a branch elsewhere! It is not helped with changes of surnames within a marriage.

We have the witness as Adolphus Nast or Hast.  Florid writing is the death of all searches!

Have not dug out a Bridget Reed that we can remember and your response has sent us through notebooks and other papers of thirty years of searching.  I unfortunately have no-one to talk to now as they have all passed on.

We do know that the surnames Fuggle, Bugden, Finnis, Tree, Dunster, Link, Millen, Ottaway and Smith are joined into this one family.
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