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Spanish_Eyes
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Re: Edward McMurchy of Campbeltown, Argyll, Scotland
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 12 April 09 22:16 UTC (UK) »

As far as Margaret Clarke, perhaps the different dates are for birth and baptisim, just guessing though....

Mysie's father worked for Margaret's father on the farm..... this is how he met her. He took Margaret and went to Glasgow where they lived and he worked on the shipping docks. While he worked there he read about the railway hiring in Canada and he applied.
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Re: Edward McMurchy of Campbeltown, Argyll, Scotland
« Reply #16 on: Sunday 12 April 09 22:19 UTC (UK) »

Margaret's birth entry:

MARGARET CLARK  Birth on 20 APR 1856 Killean And Kilchenzie, Argyll
Parents: JOHN CLARK and MARION MC MILLAN

Just one year out!
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire.
Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll.
Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire.
Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan.
McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland.
Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland.
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Re: Edward McMurchy of Campbeltown, Argyll, Scotland
« Reply #17 on: Sunday 12 April 09 22:30 UTC (UK) »

Great Work!!!!  I really appreciate it......

I will get this all put together over the next couple of days...a lot to go through thanks to you..

I have to run as we have to leave for a Easter dinner out at the relatives. I will check back later and see if anything is new....

Happy Easter!!

Spanish Eyes
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Re: Edward McMurchy of Campbeltown, Argyll, Scotland
« Reply #18 on: Sunday 12 April 09 22:32 UTC (UK) »

Enjoy dinner  Smiley

Just a couple of more bits for later. The correct family entry for 1861 - as transcribed:

John Clark 47, inn keeper, b. Campbeltown, Argyllshire
Myrtie (myzie?) Clark 35, b. Kellean, Argyllshire
Jean Clark 10, b. Kellean, Argyllshire
Mary Clark 7, b. Kilkenzie, Argyllshire
Margaret Clark 5, , b. Kilkenzie, Argyllshire
Elizabeth Clark 2, Kilkenzie, Argyllshire
Catherine Clark 2 Months, b. Kellean, Argyllshire

Address: Tayinloane, Killean and Kilchenzie 

John farming by 1871:

John Clark 57, Father F Farmer Of 70 Acres ?? b. Campbeltown, Argyllshire
Mysie Clark 44
Jane Clark 20
Janet Clark 19
Margaret Clark 15
Elizabeth Clark 12
Catherine Clark 10
Martha Clark 8
Archibald Mc Stevson 20, farm servant, b. Killean
Robert McMillan 10, servant, b. Killean, Argyleshire
Janet McMillan 50, boarder, Annuitant, b. Killean

Address: Tayinloane Farm, Killean and Kilchenzie

Monica
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire.
Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll.
Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire.
Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan.
McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland.
Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland.
..........and lots of Spanish name interests........

Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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Re: Edward McMurchy of Campbeltown, Argyll, Scotland
« Reply #19 on: Sunday 12 April 09 22:37 UTC (UK) »

Thanks......

Perhaps I will catch up to you later on here..


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Re: Edward McMurchy of Campbeltown, Argyll, Scotland
« Reply #20 on: Sunday 12 April 09 23:01 UTC (UK) »

I'll just add one more and you can follow up when you can  Smiley

You have been lucky with these lines!  I have found the ancestors of Mysie McMillan here, together with siblings:

http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/th/read/MCMILLAN/2003-03/1048255131
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire.
Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll.
Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire.
Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan.
McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland.
Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland.
..........and lots of Spanish name interests........

Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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Re: Edward McMurchy of Campbeltown, Argyll, Scotland
« Reply #21 on: Monday 13 April 09 18:59 UTC (UK) »

It seems overnight sometime I moved to another board.......

I have been very lucky with these lines especially with your great help. I have added all the information to my tree program that has been found so far.

Now to fill in some missing pieces if possible...

Spanish Eyes
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Re: Edward McMurchy of Campbeltown, Argyll, Scotland
« Reply #22 on: Monday 13 April 09 19:51 UTC (UK) »

Hi Monica

I wonder if John McMurchy born 1791, died 1867 and Mary McGeachy born 1796, died 1889 would show up somewhere with their wedding date/place and all their children.

The same with John McMurchy and Janet Carmichael, birth dates/place, death dates/place and marriage. I am not sure how far back the records would go.....

You are probably busy helping others so if you get some time I would appreciate it.

Cheers, George
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Re: Edward McMurchy of Campbeltown, Argyll, Scotland
« Reply #23 on: Monday 13 April 09 21:33 UTC (UK) »

Hi George

We can find some of that info out from IGI. For example, there is an actual extract for the marriage of John McMurchy and Mary McGeachy on IGI, date shows as 20 APR 1819 in Killean And Kilchenzie. In terms of children, the following show on IGI - John, Edward's father, looks to have been first born:

1. JOHN MCMURCHY  Birth: 22 AUG 1820 Killean And Kilchenzie
2. ANN MCMURCHY Birth: 24 MAR 1822 Killean And Kilchenzie
3. DONALD MCMURCHY Birth: 16 MAY 1823 Killean And Kilchenzie
4. JANET MCMURCHY Birth: 03 FEB 1826 Killean And Kilchenzie
5. MARY MCMURCHY Birth: 29 JUN 1827 Killean And Kilchenzie
6. BETTY MCMURCHY  Birth: 04 DEC 1828 Killean And Kilchenzie
7. MURDOCH MCMURCHY Birth: 19 MAY 1831 Killean And Kilchenzie
8. PEGGY MCMURCHY Birth: 13 AUG 1832 Killean And Kilchenzie
9. NIEL MCMURCHY Birth: 20 APR 1834/ Christening: 01 MAY 1834 Killean And Kilchenzie
10. MCMURCHY  Female Birth: 27 APR 1836/ Christening: 02 MAY 1836 Killean And Kilchenzie - unnamed child, maybe early death?
11. MYSIE MCMURCHY Christening: 14 AUG 1842 Killean And Kilchenzie

A couple more late children show in the family's 1841 entry - all entries as transcribed:

John McMurchy 45, agr. lab.
Mary McMurchy 40
John McMurchy 20
Janet McMurchy 15
Mary McMurchy 13
Betty McMurchy 11
Margt McMurchy 8
Neill McMurchy 7
Agnes McMurchy 3
Wile M McMurchy 1

Address: Say Walensidh, Killean And Kilchenzie

And in 1851 - everyone showing as born in Killean:

John McMurchy 59, Farmer Of 40 Acres Employing Labourers
Mary McMurchy 54
Edward McMurchy 25
Mary McMurchy 19
Nell McMurchy 15
Ann (Agnes, name variant) McMurchy 12
William McMurchy 10
Misey McMurchy 8

Address:North Muasdale, , Killean And Kilchenzie

Monica

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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire.
Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll.
Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire.
Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan.
McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland.
Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland.
..........and lots of Spanish name interests........

Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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Re: Edward McMurchy of Campbeltown, Argyll, Scotland
« Reply #24 on: Monday 13 April 09 21:45 UTC (UK) »

We like farmers, they leave wills normally  Grin

Likely will & testament entry (not sure what type it is as it doesn't say) for John McMurchy Snr. on Scotlands People. There are two entries each with a different spelling of what I imagine was the farm's name (also showing on the site 'My Ain Folk'.

One shows as: 09/05/1872, Farmer Residing at Kilmaluig in Dunoon Sheriff Court   (SC51/32/18),
and the other: 03/01/1872, Farmer Residing at Kilmalnig in Dunoon Sheriff Court (SC51/32/18).

Monica
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire.
Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll.
Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire.
Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan.
McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland.
Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland.
..........and lots of Spanish name interests........

Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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Re: Edward McMurchy of Campbeltown, Argyll, Scotland
« Reply #25 on: Monday 13 April 09 21:56 UTC (UK) »

I'm googling away as I'm sure you can tell by now  Roll Eyes

You might want to see if any of these emails are still alive and kicking! Must be connected to your lines I would think:

I noted with interest your page on the web showing McMurchy gravestones - and a nice photo of my relative Ian McDonald! I have connections to the family you mention: an ancestor of my husband was William McMurchy (1800 - 1874) son of John McMurchy and Jane Carmichael / McMichael. I think that there are also some connections by marriage. I would be delighted to share information on this branch of the family, and would be delighted if you can help me with other branches. Can I also check if you have been in touch with xxxxx who has done some excellent work on the McGeachys of Kintyre, several of whom married into the McMurchy and related lines.


http://mysite.verizon.net/matt.carmichael/gb%202003.htm

And the link to the home page http://mysite.verizon.net/matt.carmichael/  Section for McMurchy's to be checked to see whether they connect to your line further back perhaps.
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire.
Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll.
Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire.
Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan.
McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland.
Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland.
..........and lots of Spanish name interests........

Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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Re: Edward McMurchy of Campbeltown, Argyll, Scotland
« Reply #26 on: Monday 13 April 09 22:04 UTC (UK) »

In respect of John McMurchy and Janet Carmichael, there is this info coming up:

I too am searching Mcmurchy's in Killean and Kilchenzie parish. I
have a John McMurchy marrying Janet Carmichael 22 May 1788 at Killean &
Kilchenzie. Children so far include Ann, John, Janet and Donald. That's all
I have found so far. Could be a James. Your James who md Isabella Gilchrist
and two parishes are mentioned where the banns were posted most likely means
one party is from Killean the other from Kilcalmonell. The latter date is in
the parish they married but undoubtedly same couple.


http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/th/read/SCT-ARGYLL/2004-10/1099198774

George, the marriage shows as actual extract on IGI as do the four children mentioned above (I've checked on SP and only four show - must be more though you would think). We also have the reference to potential son number 5, William, mentioned in the post above.

Monica
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire.
Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll.
Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire.
Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan.
McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland.
Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland.
..........and lots of Spanish name interests........

Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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Re: Edward McMurchy of Campbeltown, Argyll, Scotland
« Reply #27 on: Monday 13 April 09 22:10 UTC (UK) »

The details of children showing on IGI to John and Janet (Carmichael):

1. ANN MCMURCHY  Birth: 14 MAR 1789 Killean And Kilchenzie, Argyll, Scotland
2. JOHN MCMURCHY Christening: 31 JAN 1791 Killean And Kilchenzie, Argyll, Scotland
3. JANET MCMURCHY Christening: 04 SEP 1799 Killean And Kilchenzie, Argyll, Scotland
4. DONALD MCMURCHY Christening: 24 MAR 1804 Killean And Kilchenzie, Argyll, Scotland

Monica
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire.
Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll.
Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire.
Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan.
McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland.
Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland.
..........and lots of Spanish name interests........

Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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Re: Edward McMurchy of Campbeltown, Argyll, Scotland
« Reply #28 on: Monday 13 April 09 22:21 UTC (UK) »

Thanks again Monica...... you are great.

You are going along so fast it is almost too hard to keep up with you. I will digest what is here and see what I end up with.....

George
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Re: Edward McMurchy of Campbeltown, Argyll, Scotland
« Reply #29 on: Monday 13 April 09 22:23 UTC (UK) »

And when you start to understand who is who, this might make sense:

www.ralstongenealogy.com/killeangraves.htm

Monica
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire.
Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll.
Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire.
Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan.
McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland.
Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland.
..........and lots of Spanish name interests........

Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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