stoop
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I am interested in finding out who the landowners were or are in the Mouswald area. Thanking you in anticipation stoop.
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stoop
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Good morning csc thanks for your suggestion, unfortunately I have already contacted Erica the archivist at the library and she informed me that as the estate was still in private hands there were not any public records. Regards stoop.
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stoop
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Hi Gadget would the Sasines only refer to landowners, I think my Kerrs were tenants. Regards stoop.
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Gadget
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Probably - but you asked for landowners and didn't mention tenants.
What time period are you interested in - there could be local tenancy agreements in the later period.
Gadget
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stoop
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Hi csc Erica did mention the Kinmont and Hoddam estate she said that they had been surveyed by the national archives from 1804 but as the estate was in private hands we could not access the records. It has just dawned on me that a Kerr would probably be a tenant at that time. Rachel Kerr who was the daughter of James Kerr tenant in Cleughbrae lived and died in Cleughbrae. Her sister in law lived with her(M ary Kerr ms. Slater) or near her unless there are two farms in Cleughbrae. Regards stoop.
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stoop
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Sorry about that Gadget. I am interested in two particular periods , the 1780s and 1790s and through to the 1840s when I know specific Kerrs tenanted farms in Cleughbrae and Mouswald. Regards stoop.
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Gadget
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What might be useful is a local trades directory. I know that the most important landowners are listed for each town/parish on the ones that I've consulted.
D & G FHS has some - it might be worth contacting them.
You could then check the sasines and any locally held estate papers. This wasa period when the 15-19 year leases were being changed to improving leases and the farms were being consolidated.
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stoop
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Thanks Gadget I will pursue this line. Regards stoop.
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kojak
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Hi stoop and gadget,
If you pop along to the Ewart Library in Dumfries and go to archive records section (turn right through main doors and turn corner to left) and ask to be shown where the valuation roll records are kept on shelves you will be able to see who not only owned land but also who lived in every rateable building in every parish within the County of Dumfries, Kirkcudbrightshire and Wigtonshire.
You will spend hours and hours looking through the rolls.
I spent about 5 months recording the parish of lochmaben alone!
As I recall the rolls go back to 1870s till 1980s/90s.
Enjoy the read and be careful not to lift more than one roll at a time - they are heavy !
Kenny
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Green, Gibson, Ross, Telfer, Jardine, Hay, Kennedy, Dickson, in Dumfriesshire esp Lochmaben and Kirkcudbright
Thom (Banffshire and Renfrewshire), Cormack & McBain in Ross and Cromerty and Banffshire/Aberdeenshire
McClelland, MacNeill, MacCully, Carson, Northern Ireland
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kojak
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Oops just read the time period you are interested in. Perhaps the older rolls from the 1600s would be of interest as well.
The library may have some records of landownership too.
Kenny
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Green, Gibson, Ross, Telfer, Jardine, Hay, Kennedy, Dickson, in Dumfriesshire esp Lochmaben and Kirkcudbright
Thom (Banffshire and Renfrewshire), Cormack & McBain in Ross and Cromerty and Banffshire/Aberdeenshire
McClelland, MacNeill, MacCully, Carson, Northern Ireland
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Gadget
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Hi Kenny 
The Ewart has more on our ancestors than we'll ever have time to read - especially if it's the odd visit. I do wish I could spend a few months ther. It might solve some of my loose ends 
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stoop
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Hi Kenny and Gadget, you have both inspired me to make plans for an early visit to the Ewart. Every time I go I do not want to leave. Stoop.
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