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James Barrett, Nina williams, Military police
« on: Wednesday 16 February 05 17:32 UTC (UK) »

Hi everyone,
Looking for family of James Barrett born abt 1883 Wandsworth,
and his wife Nina Williams, born1883, they married 1910 Norbiton, and had Hilda Winifred and James,in Hampshire.
Nina Died 1918 Norbiton, from Consumpton, James was listed as Sgt Major Military Police. James parents were Alfred Carpenter and Mary Jane McKay. Nina's father was Joseph Williams working as a carman.
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Re: James Barrett, Nina williams, Military police
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 19 February 09 15:17 UTC (UK) »

Hi Kenjo

Just doing some housekeeping on the Surrey boards and going through the oldest posts. Now there are further resources available it gives a chance for old posts to be looked at again to see if the information can be found or the chance for posters to say whether this information has been answered and this topic can be completed. If it can be completed please put completed into the title of this topic and it can be moved to Surrey completed (it is never lost off Rootschat) giving more space for other topics to be looked at again by all of us to see if we can help. If you are still looking for the information perhaps you can now add further details to help others search again for you.

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Re: James Barrett, Nina williams, Military police
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 24 February 09 08:01 UTC (UK) »

Still hoping to find rellies,
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Re: James Barrett, Nina williams, Military police
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 08 March 09 19:48 UTC (UK) »

Kenjo

What information does the 1911 census give you about the couple living in Kent at the time of the census? Where were they born?

http://www.1911census.co.uk/

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Re: James Barrett, Nina williams, Military police
« Reply #4 on: Monday 09 March 09 07:49 UTC (UK) »

Hi Ya Valda,
I think I was one of the first who bought 1911census, but really no joy.
Nina claims to be born in Aldershot, but, from previous research there wasn't anyone suitable.
I will get back to this and possibly there will be a baby born that just might fit, maybe she will have a different surname.
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Re: James Barrett, Nina williams, Military police
« Reply #5 on: Monday 09 March 09 22:48 UTC (UK) »

Hi Jo

The Barretts

1891 census RG12 434 folio 20
100 Meyrick Road Battersea
Alfred Barrett 43  Head Married Carpenter London
Mary L? Barrett 40 Wife Married Spotland Edington
Fank Barrett 18 Son Butcher Aldershot Hampshire
Thomas Barrett 15 Son Candle packer London
Mary Jane Barrett 11 Daughter London
William Barrett 9 Son  Battersea Surrey
James Barrett 7 Son  Battersea Surrey
Augustus Barrett 5 Son Battersea Surrey

1881 census RG11 639 folio 62
37 Simpson Street Battersea
Alfred Barrett 33  Head Married Carpenter Kensington Middlesex
Mary Jane Barrett 22 Wife Married Edinburgh Scotland
John A. Barrett 10 Son Edinburgh Scotland
L. James Barrett 8  Son Aldershot Hampshire
Thomas Barrett 4 Son City Middlesex
Mary Jane Barrett 1 Daughter City Middlesex

The Barrett family were still in Battersea on the 1901 census but James was not with them possibly because he had already enlisted.


This family might be a possibility for Nina.

1891 census RG12 559 folio 75
17 Springfield Terrace Stoke  Guildford Surrey
Joseph Williams 39 Head Married Brewer's labourer Dublin Ireland
Jane Williams 43 Wife Married Cannore India
Ann Williams 14 Daughter Dressmaker Aldershot Hants
Jane Williams &7 Daughter County Cork Ireland

1901 census RG13 38
31 Falcon Road Stoke within Guildford Surrey
Joseph Williams 51 head Married General labourer Cardiff Wales
Jane Williams 50 Wife Married Dublin Ireland
Annie Hodson 24 Daughter Married Cannanera India British Subject
Jane Williams 17 Daughter Aldershot Hants

Elder daughter Ann Williams marriage

Marriages Mar 1901   
HODSON  Ernest Spencer     Guildford  2a 108   
WILLIAMS  Annie Bedford     Guildford  2a 108

On the 1911 census Ernest Spencer Hodson was in the military in the Guildford area.
Jane his wife was also living in the Guildford area with their three children

Births Dec 1910   
HODSON  Emily M G     Guildford  2a 91

Frederick William Hodson aged 4 and not born in the Guildford area.

And their eldest child

Births Mar 1902 
Hodson  Annie Nina    Guildford  2a 92

Named perhaps for her mother and aunt.

There was a Jane Williams birth registered at the right time for an Aldershot birth in 1883. Nina could have been her pet name to distinguish her from her mother also called Jane.

Births Sep 1883 
WILLIAMS  Jane     Farnham  2a 112


It might be worth trying to find Joseph on the 1911 census if he is still alive, to see what his occupation was. Or alternatively obtain his death certificate if this is it.

Deaths Jun 1904   
Williams  Joseph  55  Guildford  2a 68



Who were the witnesses on Nina and James' marriage?



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Re: James Barrett, Nina williams, Military police
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 12 March 09 08:55 UTC (UK) »

Dear Valda,
Thankyou so much for your efforts, I am struggling at the moment to get to this, please forgive my late reply. I did read this the other day and thought I would be able to get to it within the day. I am not ungrateful, but this deserves my undivided attention.  Give me a few days to get back and really digest your work.
I have to contact the lady concerned about the certificate.
Sorry for the delay.
kindest regards,
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Re: James Barrett, Nina williams, Military police
« Reply #7 on: Friday 17 April 09 23:14 UTC (UK) »

Hi Valda,
Firstly, could you move this back to the other board.
I have been in contact with Gwen, (the granddaughter of Nina) and she looked at the Marriage certificate and you are definetly onto something, or you have found her!

The witnesses were Ernest Hodson, Alice Perry & Thomas Stewart Barrett.

Thankyou and I will get back.
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