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Malshie
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Larkin
« on: Thursday 16 April 09 10:49 UTC (UK) »

Simon Larkin 'my brick wall' after searching for seven years to find out where my Gr.Grandfather was born I have found out.
I just had to share it with the RootsChat forum, as I am in tears now I feel so emotional, I just want to shout from the rooftops.
Please excuse me, but the family are all out and I had to share it with my 'other family'.

He was born in County Monaghan.

Very best wishes to you all

malshie

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Re: Larkin
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 22 April 09 01:38 UTC (UK) »

That's great news Malshie Smiley

Your patience in continuing your research when you hit a brick wall has produced a good result.

Christopher
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Malshie
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Re: Larkin
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 22 April 09 10:02 UTC (UK) »

Thankyou Christopher for your kind words.

My next step will be finding out where exactly in Monaghan he came from, I only hope it takes me less than 7 years!

kind regards
malshie
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Re: Larkin
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 22 April 09 17:02 UTC (UK) »

They sure know how to build brick walls in Monaghan.....good hunting!
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Re: Larkin
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 22 April 09 17:32 UTC (UK) »

Well you shouldn't have any problems finding the name of Simon's father, the census returns indicate that he married twice.

Good luck,
J.T.A.
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Malshie
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Re: Larkin
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 22 April 09 19:51 UTC (UK) »

Hello J.T.A. not really sure which census returns you are referring to?

Simon Larkin born 1845/47  the name of his father is Hugh larkin,  taken from Simon's Marriage Certificate which I managed to order.

I would really be interested in what you found out in the Census Returns, could be a relation.

Kind regards
malshie


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Re: Larkin
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 22 April 09 20:19 UTC (UK) »

Hello Malshie,

I was referring to the census returns for Jarrow from 1871 onwards. Simon Larkin's first wife was Mary Doudican but I can't remember his second wife as I am going by memory but I think her first name was Isabella.

Seeing you list the names Larkin and Doudican at South Shields and Jarrow respectively I just put two and two together.

J.T.A.
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Malshie
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Re: Larkin
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 22 April 09 20:34 UTC (UK) »

Hi J.T.A.

Thanks for your reply, yes you are right my gr.grandfather Simon was indeed married twice, to Mary Doudican then to Isabella Blakey. So it was good to know that Hugh was mentioned on both Marriage Certificates.

For a minute I thought you had found Simon's father in Co Monaghan
well i can but hope!

Don't suppose you have any burial information for Mary Doudican?
Regards
malshie





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Re: Larkin
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 22 April 09 20:51 UTC (UK) »

So Isabella must have been a widow too as her name appears to have been McMaughan when she married Simon in 1898 and there was a step-son of that name in the Larkin household in 1901.

Did Simon's marriage certificate mention if his father was deceased? There were only two Hugh Larkins listed in Co Monaghan in GV circa 1860 which could narrow your search considerably if he was alive then.

Will look out for Mary Doudican's death.

J.T.A.
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Malshie
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Re: Larkin
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 22 April 09 21:17 UTC (UK) »

Hi J.T.A.  On the marriage certificate for Simon and Mary dated February 1871 it states "Hugh larkin, Farm Labourer

On the marriage certificate for Simon and Isabella dated February 1898 it states
"Hugh Larkin, (deceased) labourer

Yes Isabella also had been widowed when she married Simon.
Both of the marriages were held at St. Bedes RC Church, Jarrow.

Simon first appears on the England Census for 1871 and finally on the 1911 Census. I presumed he was still living in Ireland up until 1870/71.

Thanks for your help
regards
malshie
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Re: Larkin
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 22 April 09 21:28 UTC (UK) »

Hello Malshie,

There is a strong possibility that Simon's father was one of the following two listed in Primary Valuation of Ireland (1860)

LARKIN  HUGH  CORCREEGHAGH  MONAGHAN  MAGHEROSS         
LARKIN  HUGH  SHANKILL  MONAGHAN  AGHNAMULLEN 

Good luck.

J.t.A.
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Re: Larkin
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 22 April 09 22:08 UTC (UK) »

Malshie,

You could be on a winner here. Even though the two Hugh Larkins lived in different parishes (Magheross and Aghnamullen) the townlands Corcreeghagh and Shankill abutted each other so the two Hughes were almost certainly related. These locations are both in the Registration District of Carrickmacross.

The Irish GRO indexes also lists two deaths which fits:

Hugh Larkin aged 55 in 1871 Volume 2 Page 267 Carrickmacross
Hugh Larkin aged 72 in 1892 Volume 2 Page 320 Carrickmacross

These ages suggest either could be the father of Simon Larkin but I have a sneaking suspicion it is the Hugh of Corcreeghagh if only because his next door neighbour was a Peter Larkin. The names Peter and Simon being interchangeable.

Irish certificates from the GRO only cost 4 euro when a reference is included.

J.T.A,
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Re: Larkin
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 23 April 09 11:01 UTC (UK) »

Morning J.T.A.

Thankyou for your post, which made very interesting reading.
although, I keep reading about the parishes and townlands I am sorry to say I still find it all very confusing to where the locations of the registrations districts are. 

When you mention the Irish certificates from the GRO cost 4 euros when a reference is included, is the reference the one you quoted i.e.
Vol 2 page 267 - for Hugh larkin aged 55?
Sorry to ask but I am very new to ordering certificates from Ireland.

I also hadn't thought about the names Peter and Simon being connected, that was another good point you made.

I learn something new from Rootschat 'posters' about Irish research nearly every day, I am just so grateful that people are kind enough to share their knowledge with others like myself.

kindest regards
malshie 

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Re: Larkin
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 23 April 09 11:11 UTC (UK) »

.... about the parishes and townlands I am sorry to say I still find it all very confusing to where the locations of the registrations districts are.  .... a reference is included, is the reference the one you quoted i.e. Vol 2 page 267 - for Hugh larkin aged 55? ..

map of the registration districts :  http://www.rootschat.com/links/05d7/

when ordering research certs from the GRO the reference details they require are :

  Name
  year / quarter
  registration district
  volume number
  page number


Shane


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Re: Larkin
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 23 April 09 11:19 UTC (UK) »

Thankyou Shane

malshie
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