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scamp1234
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Thomas Francies Farr
« on: Friday 17 April 09 19:56 UTC (UK) »

Hi,
Can anyone please tell me who the father of the above is.
Thomas was born Bathgate on 19th February 1914.
He was a goal keeper for Bradford Park Avenue football club in the 50s.
He was born in BATHGATE
Any help will be appreciated.

John
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jean jeanie
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Re: Thomas Francies Farr
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 18 April 09 10:11 UTC (UK) »

John

There is only one Thomas Farr born in Bathgate in 1914. You will find his birth cert on www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk

If you are not already a member you will have to join. It will cost you £6. However this will give you 5 certificates, if you search carefully. For example, if his parents were married, their marriage date will be on his birth cert and you could then download that too.

If there is a marriage cert it will show the names of the bride and groom's parents.

Best wishes
Jean
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scamp1234
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Re: Thomas Francies Farr
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 18 April 09 15:00 UTC (UK) »

Hi,
Many thanks I will join it.

Regards

\john
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mr-aitch
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Re: Thomas Francies Farr
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 19 April 09 00:27 UTC (UK) »

John

There is only one Thomas Farr born in Bathgate in 1914. You will find his birth cert on www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk

If you are not already a member you will have to join. It will cost you £6. However this will give you 5 certificates, if you search carefully. For example, if his parents were married, their marriage date will be on his birth cert and you could then download that too.

If there is a marriage cert it will show the names of the bride and groom's parents.

Best wishes
Jean

Hi, Jean & John.

Unfortunately, ScotlandsPeople will not provide an image because the birth is less than 100 years old, there being a cut-off point at 1907 for images of births.

I did some research on the Beatties and Ronalds in Bathgate a number of years ago and the only Farr family in Bathgate was connected to the Ronalds.  James Farr married Mary Ronalds and I suspect Thomas Francis was James' great-grandson.  If my memory serves me correctly I think the only Farr getting married in Bathgate between 1900 and 1920 was Robert Anthony Farr, the illegitimate son of Elizabeth.   He married Mary Lackie and I think Thomas was their second son.

Anyhow, I'm going to Edinburgh on Tuesday and if you can wait until then I'll get you a definite answer - albeit in transcript rather than a copy certificate.

Will that suit?

Regards,

mr-aitch
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Re: Thomas Francies Farr
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 19 April 09 06:04 UTC (UK) »

Hi mr-aitch,
Yes that will be fantastic ,  I wait in anticipation.
I have got the 1881 census and on it I have a DAVID BEATTEY (Brother in Law) from Ireland.

Regards

John
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Re: Thomas Francies Farr
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 19 April 09 12:00 UTC (UK) »

Ooops Apologies

I'd forgotten about the 100 year rule on births!

Best wishes
Jean
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Re: Thomas Francies Farr
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 19 April 09 20:50 UTC (UK) »

Jean,
Thanks for all your help

Regards

John
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Re: Thomas Francies Farr
« Reply #7 on: Monday 20 April 09 00:05 UTC (UK) »

Hi mr-aitch,
Yes that will be fantastic ,  I wait in anticipation.
I have got the 1881 census and on it I have a DAVID BEATTEY (Brother in Law) from Ireland.

Regards

John

Okay, I'll look up the birth on Tuesday.

David Beattey is the brother-in-law of who?  I have access to both Ancestry and the LDS 1881 censuses and neither records him in the Farr, Beattie or Ronald households.

Regards,

mr-aitch
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Re: Thomas Francies Farr
« Reply #8 on: Monday 20 April 09 03:33 UTC (UK) »

Hi,
In my LDS 1881 it lists
JAMES FARR  age 52
ELIZA  FARR  age 50
GEORGE FARR  age 16
JAMES FARR  age 13
JOHN FARR age 10
DAVID BEATTEY  age 27

They lived at No 1 Pottery Yard
Heworth, Durham
FHL Film 1342212     Pro Ref RG11     Piece  5031    Folio 85     Page 35

They must have moved  to england
I presume DAVID was James brother in law.

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Re: Thomas Francies Farr
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 21 April 09 23:28 UTC (UK) »

Hi,
Can anyone please tell me who the father of the above is.
Thomas was born Bathgate on 19th February 1914.
He was a goal keeper for Bradford Park Avenue football club in the 50s.
He was born in BATHGATE
Any help will be appreciated.

John

Hi, John.

For the record this is a transcript of the birth entry for Thomas.

BIRTH of THOMAS FRANCIS FARR
District:          Bathgate      District no. 662/1   entry no. 67
Date              19Feb1914 (0650 hours)
Place              81 Cochrane Street, Bathgate
Father            Robert Anthony FARR, coal miner
Mother           Mary FARR, m.s. LACKIE
Marriage        23Jul1907 (sic); Bathgate
Informant      Robert Anthony FARR, father

This is his parents' marriage.

MARRIAGE of ROBERT ANTHONY FARR
District:         Bathgate   District no.  662/1  entry no. 38
Date             26Jul1906
Place            Russell Row, Bathgate
Rites of        Church of Scotland
Age              21 years
Status          Bachelor
Occupation   Coal miner
Residence    16 Russell Row, Bathgate
Father          n/r
Mother         Elizabeth FARR, deceased

Spouse        MARY LACKIE
Age              20 years
Status          Spinster
Occupation   Domestic servant
Residence    28 Cochrane Street, Bathgate
Father          James LACKIE, general labourer, deceased
Mother         Catherine LACKIE, m.s FRAME, still alive
Minister        W.L. Webster, MA; Minister of Bathgate
Witnesses    Robert ANTHONY; Bessie KELLY

Hope these help.

May I ask, John, if  your interest is the Farr family in general?  Or perhaps, judging from your original request, are you interested in Thomas's football career?

Regards,

mr-aitch
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Re: Thomas Francies Farr
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 22 April 09 02:29 UTC (UK) »

Hi,
Thanks very very much for all your efforts and time.
My interest in Thomas is because of a dead friend.
Thomas was his uncle.
Hearing so much about him over the years got me interested.
Once again thanks very much.

Regards

John
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