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emilyandrosiesmum
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johnsons of thorney fen
« on: Sunday 19 April 09 18:35 UTC (UK) »

can anyone help with the johnson family born in thorney fen cambs. Father=william born 1842, mother = ann webb, children = sarah, joseph, elizabeth, johnson w and harriet.  william disappears after 1871 census.  Joseph and jack (johnson w) moved to haslingden lancs but mum and girls seem to have stayed behind. would love to know what happened to Wiliam and the females of the family.  thanks for any help
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Re: johnsons of thorney fen
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 19 April 09 18:46 UTC (UK) »

Hi,

Have you searched for a death for him?  On 1881 census Ann lists herself as "widow", living with children Sarah, Joseph, Elizabeth, Johnson and Harriet.


RG11    1692/78      2


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Howard , Viney , Kingsman, Pain/e, Rainer/ Rayner, Barham, George, Wakeling (Catherine), Vicary (Frederick)   all LDN area/suburbs  Ottley/ MDX,
Henman/ KNT   Gandy/LDN before 1830  Burgess/LDN
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Re: johnsons of thorney fen
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 19 April 09 18:58 UTC (UK) »

1871/1881 they were living in peterboro reg dist - daughter harriet's birth ewas reg in peterboro dist in 1878 -so possibly this is william's death reg

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William Johnson
age 36
Jun qtr 1878
peterboro
3b 159

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Re: johnsons of thorney fen
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 19 April 09 18:59 UTC (UK) »

Death William Johnson June 1878 aged 36

Peterborough  3b 159

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Re: johnsons of thorney fen
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 19 April 09 19:00 UTC (UK) »

Hi both all Smiley

Ann marries Griff(e/i)n Rycraft in Sep 1885 Whittlesey

They are living in Whittlesey in 1891 - Harriet is still at home - and 1901

RG12/1302 156 14 and RG13/1553 84 12

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Re: johnsons of thorney fen
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 19 April 09 19:19 UTC (UK) »

thanks so much everyone. I will send for william's death cert.  can anyone help with info on a dark horse of the family, Charlie Webb, son of ann johnson nee webb, williams wife.  he was apparently illegitimate and born before ann and william were married.
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Re: johnsons of thorney fen
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 19 April 09 19:20 UTC (UK) »

this looks like elizabeth in 1891
Market Place (next door to the George Hotel)
Whittlesey cambs
Elizabeth Waddwlow head W 52 Living on own means Dumfries Scotland
John J son U 22 medical practitioner Whittlesey cambs
Anne Armstrong mother W 78 living on own mens Carlisle Cumberland
Fanny Hoskins visitor W 65 Living on own means melton mowbray leics
Alice Ann Palmer servant U 19 Cook Domestic Thorney cambs
ELIZABETH JOHNSON servant U 17 Housemaid Thorney Cambs
RG12 1302 59 17

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Re: johnsons of thorney fen
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 19 April 09 19:25 UTC (UK) »

I'm still with the Johnson girls ...

Harriet Johnson probably marries an Aaron Hallam in 1895. Unfortunately Aaron is shown as married in 1901 but his wife is away and I can't find her. There are 2 children, Harriet Maria age 3 and Elizabeth age 2.

In 1911, she doesn't seem to be with Aaron either and the free index doesn't seem to show any other children.

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Re: johnsons of thorney fen
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 19 April 09 19:40 UTC (UK) »

Ann's parents Joseph and Sarah are in Haslingden in 1871, with a grandson Charles Webb age 6 born Peterborough. RG10/4140 32 24

Do you have the details yet?  Smiley

He's still with them in 1881:
http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=uki1881&indiv=try&h=11398971
RG11/4137 88 59

Birth Charles Webb Mar 1865 Peterborough 3b 221
Marriage Dec 1865 Peterbro 3b 482 Ann Webb - William Johnson
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Re: johnsons of thorney fen
« Reply #9 on: Monday 20 April 09 19:53 UTC (UK) »

thank you all for your sterling work.  I am now much further on, with good leads.
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Re: johnsons of thorney fen
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 09 June 09 03:31 UTC (UK) »

Hi, just joined the forum and landed right in the middle of family. Harriet Johnson was my Grandma, in the 1911 census she is married to Harry Wood in Leicester and her birth is given  transcribed as Chorney, but is actually Thorney if you look at the original. The family legend (i.e no eveidence) was that she was married twice, firstly to a Mr Hallam. This seems to link up with some of your prior responses, I have more info and photos if you need it,

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Re: johnsons of thorney fen
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 09 June 09 06:57 UTC (UK) »

Welcome to RootsChat Steve  Smiley

I guess you have found this alredy but there's a marriage

Harriet Hallam - Harry Wood in Jun 1918, Leicester 7a 567

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Re: johnsons of thorney fen
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 09 June 09 20:10 UTC (UK) »


No, In fact I didn't have this many thanks. Harriet was a bit of a hard case it seems. The family legend had it that she left her first marriage to live with Harry, but getting married as late as 1918 was a bit of a surprise, she was listed as Mrs Wood in the 1911 census. To top it all when Harry died she married (shacked up) with another guy, go Harriet   Smiley

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Re: johnsons of thorney fen
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 09 June 09 20:20 UTC (UK) »

Hello
Have just seen Leicester man post, I also have Johnsons on my tree. Thomas who married a Lucy Harrold ,in 1868 in Thorney, daug's Mary Ann Emma. son James, Frederick,Alfred.
Do you have any of these names

Zena

     
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Re: johnsons of thorney fen
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 09 June 09 20:38 UTC (UK) »

Hello
Have just seen Leicester man post, I also have Johnsons on my tree. Thomas who married a Lucy Harrold ,in 1868 in Thorney, daug's Mary Ann Emma. son James, Frederick,Alfred.
Do you have any of these names

Zena

     

Hi Zena, strangely I have none of those names in my tree, I have Sarah, Joseph, Elizabeth and Johnson as Harriets siblings and Ann as her mother, but these ancestors are new to my radar so more research is required my forge a link,

Steve
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