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Nicknoodle
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Moss Maria GREAD Look Up Please
« on: Monday 20 April 09 10:43 UTC (UK) »

Dear all,

I hope that someone is able to help me find more information on Moss Maria GREAD.
I know that she was born about 1825 and was still living in 1901, but I am unable to access the 1901 census.
Is someone able to look her up in any census?
Or find her marriage or death entries?

Thank you in advance.

Kindest regards,
Nick GREAD
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Re: Moss Maria GREAD Look Up Please
« Reply #1 on: Monday 20 April 09 11:08 UTC (UK) »

Hi Nick,

1901
RG13/1680 68 46
Prittlewell, Essex
Cossington Rd
Sunnyholm Weetcliff on Sea

Charles J Gread, head, 43, House Estate Agent, b. Poplar
Rosina M do., wife, 44, b. St Pancras
Rosina G do., dau, 16, b. Poplar
Frank S do., son, 14, Commercial Clerk, b. do.
Robert E do., son, 12, b. do.
Alfred S do., son, 10, b. do.
Lily E do., dau, 5, b. do.
Moss Maria L, mother in law, wid, 76, b. Bethnal Green

Makes you wonder wether Moss is in fact her surname (but Rosina married Charles as Rosina Mary Stebbing in Sep 1881)

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Re: Moss Maria GREAD Look Up Please
« Reply #2 on: Monday 20 April 09 11:18 UTC (UK) »

Back in 1881, Rosina Stebbing's mother is Maria:
http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=uki1881&indiv=try&h=15506424
RG11/501 77 18

A Maria Louisa Stebbing marries in Poplar in 1888, but the possible spouses William Inns or William Chipperfield  and I can't see a remarriage for Maria Louisa Inns or Chipperfield to a Moss ... Undecided
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Re: Moss Maria GREAD Look Up Please
« Reply #3 on: Monday 20 April 09 11:23 UTC (UK) »

Hi,

Could the "Moss" be a badly written/transcribed "Inns"?   If so there is this on FreeBMD:

Deaths:

Maria Louisa  Inns    DecQ   1904    Rochford  4a   357     (age 79)

Prittlewell is in the Rochford area.


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Re: Moss Maria GREAD Look Up Please
« Reply #4 on: Monday 20 April 09 11:35 UTC (UK) »

Hi Nanny Jan  Smiley

The name doesn't look like Inns but I agree it remains the most likely explanation.


The first letter is different from the M in Maria but the same as the M in Merchant

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Re: Moss Maria GREAD Look Up Please
« Reply #5 on: Monday 20 April 09 11:41 UTC (UK) »

Hi Tati,


Back to square one then.......... Undecided


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Re: Moss Maria GREAD Look Up Please
« Reply #6 on: Monday 20 April 09 11:49 UTC (UK) »

not seen her in 1891 - LOL, transcribed James ...

actual surname Inns... a Widow, born c1826, Bethnal Green

RG12/328; Folio 81; Page 52 - Bromley / Poplar
88, Levan Road


poor Charles Gread has both Mothers at home  ....  Cheesy
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Re: Moss Maria GREAD Look Up Please
« Reply #7 on: Monday 20 April 09 11:55 UTC (UK) »

Hiya LKL! Kiss

Can you see a marriage to a Moss by any chance, or shall we decide it's just an enumeration mistake?
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Re: Moss Maria GREAD Look Up Please
« Reply #8 on: Monday 20 April 09 11:57 UTC (UK) »

think it must be a mistake - given NJ's Death Index find ?

also cant find her first marriage to James Stebbing - they are together with a 7 and 5 year old Rosina born St Panc in the 1861* Census in Bromley (Bow / POplar area) .... so it may have to be Rosinas Birth Cert to reveal Maria L's maiden name ....


* 1861 -  RG9/300; Folio: 55; Page: 31
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Re: Moss Maria GREAD Look Up Please
« Reply #9 on: Monday 20 April 09 11:59 UTC (UK) »

Births Mar 1856   
 
STEBBING  Rosina Mary    St Pancras  v1b p92
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Re: Moss Maria GREAD Look Up Please
« Reply #10 on: Monday 20 April 09 12:04 UTC (UK) »

Rosina's older bro' Charles (on the 1861 census) - middle name may be a clue ...

Births Jun 1854 
 
STEBBING  Charles Napier      St Pancras  v1b p84
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Re: Moss Maria GREAD Look Up Please
« Reply #11 on: Monday 20 April 09 12:12 UTC (UK) »

Bet this was them in 1851 !

1851 - HO107/1505; Folio: 27; Page: 11- Hackney

James Stebbing WIDOWER 47 Head Omnibus Conducter  Ratcliff
James* Stebbing    15 son Hackney
Mary Stebbing    5 dau do
Joseph H Stebbing    2 son do
Eliza A Stebbing    5 Mo dau do

Maria L Lymes UnMarried 23 Visitor Bethnal Green



* This son James is back at home in the 1871 census - RG10/573; Folio: 76; Page: 36 - Bromley St Leonard / Poplar
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Re: Moss Maria GREAD Look Up Please
« Reply #12 on: Monday 20 April 09 12:27 UTC (UK) »

cant see her in 1841 tho .......  Sad
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Re: Moss Maria GREAD Look Up Please
« Reply #13 on: Monday 20 April 09 12:41 UTC (UK) »

Back in 1881, Rosina Stebbing's mother is Maria:
http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=uki1881&indiv=try&h=15506424
RG11/501 77 18

A Maria Louisa Stebbing marries in Poplar in 1888, but the possible spouses William Inns or William Chipperfield  and I can't see a remarriage for Maria Louisa Inns or Chipperfield to a Moss ... Undecided

If she did marry a William Inns, this could be a likely match rsulting in widowhood in 1901

Deaths Sep 1894   
Inns  William  81  Hendon  3a 105
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Re: Moss Maria GREAD Look Up Please
« Reply #14 on: Monday 20 April 09 12:42 UTC (UK) »

Great find anyway, LKL!  Cheesy

How about:

Maria Louisa Symes
Birth 3 Aug 1824, christening 29 Aug 1824
Saint Matthew, Bethnal Green, London
Father Joseph Symes, mother Mary

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