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BETSEY SMITH/ WIFE OF NELSON BUCKLAND


Re: Kiwihalfpints Scavenger Hunt....Everyone Welcome To Join In.
« Reply #30 on: Wednesday 22 April 09 14:38 UTC (UK) »

found this one:
1851 Scotland Blacks Land No 2 Kelainhaugh  Barony
Daniel Mcneil 30 b 1821 Johnston  Refrew Journeyman Ship Smith
Isabella         28 b 1832 Edinburgh, Midlothian
Richard            5 b 1846 England
Peter Mcbride  6 b  1845  Glasgow, Lanark

Just wondering its its relative to Alexander mother Margaret Mcbride?

Strangely in 1861 Census Abbey Burgh
they then have a couple living with them
John Dick b 1812  Kirk of Mun, Stirlingshire  aged 49
Janet Dick b 1822 Kirk of Mun, Stirlingshire  aged 39

Could it be the missing Janet Mcneil ? I know bith place don;t fit but birth year does

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TENETT BUCKLAND & PLATO BUCKLAND ( MY LINEAGE)
  Buckland Smith James Stanley Lovell Loveridge Lee Cooper Penfold/Pinfold Orchard Boswell Broadway Wells

AREAS OF INTEREST CORNWALL DEVON USA
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Re: Kiwihalfpints Scavenger Hunt....Everyone Welcome To Join In.
« Reply #31 on: Wednesday 22 April 09 14:39 UTC (UK) »

children of Alexander McNeil and Janet McDougall

Daniel McNeil 24 SEP 1829 Abby, Paisley

Alexander McNeil 24 JUL 1825   Abbey (Paisley), Renfrew

Margaret McNeil  born, 23 JUL 1827 Abby, Paisley, chr; 29 JUL 1827


ARCHIBALD MCNEIL born, 22 DEC 1836; chr 19 FEB 1837

another Margaret  Undecided

MARGARET MCNEIL born 09 MAY 1833, chr 16 JUN 1833, Barony, Lanark

 
ELIZABETH MCNEIL  b; 18 FEB 1835, chr; 5 APR 1835 Barony, Lanark,

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Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans
tiggi
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Re: Kiwihalfpints Scavenger Hunt....Everyone Welcome To Join In.
« Reply #32 on: Wednesday 22 April 09 14:51 UTC (UK) »

1861 Census 6 Parliamentary Rd  Glasgow Inner High
Daniel Mcneil  b 1828 Paisley, Renfrewshire Black Smith (journeyman)
Agnes            b 1829 Airdrie, Lanarkshire
Agnes            b 1857 Glasgow, Lanarkshire
John              b   1859 Garnkirk, Lanarkshire

Is this the son ?
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TENETT BUCKLAND & PLATO BUCKLAND ( MY LINEAGE)
  Buckland Smith James Stanley Lovell Loveridge Lee Cooper Penfold/Pinfold Orchard Boswell Broadway Wells

AREAS OF INTEREST CORNWALL DEVON USA
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Re: Kiwihalfpints Scavenger Hunt....Everyone Welcome To Join In.
« Reply #33 on: Wednesday 22 April 09 14:54 UTC (UK) »

1881 Canada... possibly Archibald
 Arcibald MCNEIL   45   Scotland   Farm Labourer
 Mary MCNEIL   42   Scotland 
 James MCNEIL 13   Ontario     
 Janet MCNEIL 8   Ontario   
 Neil MCNEIL  6   Ontario     
 Mary MCNEIL  3   Ontario 

all are presbyterians   
Scott, Ontario North, Ontario


folloing this;
Ontario, Canada 1871
 Archibald McNeil
b;1836-1837 - Scotland
Residence:  1871 - Darlington, Ontario, Canada
Residence:  Durham West
Reformed Presbyterian 
Occupation: Farmer
 head of household
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Wales, New Quay = James, Evans
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Re: Kiwihalfpints Scavenger Hunt....Everyone Welcome To Join In.
« Reply #34 on: Wednesday 22 April 09 15:00 UTC (UK) »

found this immigration record ...not much info though  Undecided

Archibald McNeil
Birth:  abt 1837
Arrival:  1871 - Ontario, Canada
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Re: Kiwihalfpints Scavenger Hunt....Everyone Welcome To Join In.
« Reply #35 on: Wednesday 22 April 09 15:05 UTC (UK) »

just found this marriage ...look at mother's maiden name

Name: Neil Graham
POB Paisley Ont 
22years 
bc 1875 
Father Name: John Graham
Mother Name: Janet McNeil
Date: 15 Mar 1897


found Janet McNeil's marriage to John Graham ...not her ...her dad is Neil McNeil. Undecided Lips Sealed Embarrassed

errrrrrrrrr ummmm there are lots with MMN Janet McNeil

but this one is in the same area as
there is another Archie McNeil in Plymton, Lambton, Ontario 1881 but the childrens names are not following any patern.
worth keeping a note of them though.

Alexander McDonald
DOB 12 Oct 1878
  Lambton 
Father: Donald McDonald
Mother: Janet McNeil


added ...think this one is wrong too ...found a death of Janet McDonald in Lambton ..father = Hector Mcneil  Undecided

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Re: Kiwihalfpints Scavenger Hunt....Everyone Welcome To Join In.
« Reply #36 on: Wednesday 22 April 09 19:18 UTC (UK) »

Hi guys,

You have certainly been all busy while I have been in the land of nod.   So sorry to be obtrusive and not put up Alexanders wife name ..... it was Janet McDougall and yes, there was another daughter named Margaret.  The first Margaret died .... there were also two unnamed twins 1831.

Alexander was my uncle and he isn't mentioned on the admission form as being overseas yet my ggrandfather is.

I am not surprised you have picked up the naming patterns of children, because both Daniel and his father used the naming patterns for their children, and a couple of their children continued the tradition for a couple of generations.

I am here for a short while, I have to go and give some fasting bloods soon Grin
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Re: Kiwihalfpints Scavenger Hunt....Everyone Welcome To Join In.
« Reply #37 on: Wednesday 22 April 09 19:23 UTC (UK) »

me again, I wonder if Janet and Archie, could have like their brothers, starting slipping in their mothers maiden name as a 2nd name.

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Re: Kiwihalfpints Scavenger Hunt....Everyone Welcome To Join In.
« Reply #38 on: Wednesday 22 April 09 19:42 UTC (UK) »

Right Janet McDougall was born about 1800 in Johnstone to Alexander McDougall and Janet Sinclair.   Janet died 27 December 1857 in 599 Gallowgate and buried 1 January 1858 Eastern Necropolis Gasglow.

Two other children to add to Alexander McNeil and Janet McDougall.

James born 2 Oct 1823 Abbey; ch 26 Oct Abbey

Margaret born 9 May 1833 Bridgeton, ch 16 June Barony



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kiwihalfpint
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Re: Kiwihalfpints Scavenger Hunt....Everyone Welcome To Join In.
« Reply #39 on: Wednesday 22 April 09 22:08 UTC (UK) »

1861 Census 6 Parliamentary Rd  Glasgow Inner High
Daniel Mcneil  b 1828 Paisley, Renfrewshire Black Smith (journeyman)
Agnes            b 1829 Airdrie, Lanarkshire
Agnes            b 1857 Glasgow, Lanarkshire
John              b   1859 Garnkirk, Lanarkshire

Is this the son ?

No, not the son.       I have all the info on Daniel and all the info on Alexander born 1825.
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kiwihalfpint
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Re: Kiwihalfpints Scavenger Hunt....Everyone Welcome To Join In.
« Reply #40 on: Wednesday 22 April 09 22:18 UTC (UK) »

Me again Grin Grin Grin Grin

Right the naming patterns, and my thoughts are:

Do not know who Alexander born 1799 is named after ... either is fathers side or mothers.

Janet  born 1822 named after her grandmother McDougall

James born 1823 named after his fathers father

Alexander born 1825 named after his father/grandfather McDougall

Margaret born 1827 (died between 1827-1833) named after her fathers mother.    Usually when a child dies, the next child is named after the child that has died, I have that in a couple of generations.

and have no idea where Daniel, Elizabeth and Archibald come from, unless it is from the McDougall side.



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Re: Kiwihalfpints Scavenger Hunt....Everyone Welcome To Join In.
« Reply #41 on: Wednesday 22 April 09 22:29 UTC (UK) »

Hi KHP

Nice to be here when you are  Grin almost 6;30pm Wed here  Grin

So Alexander's admission forms only state Janet and Archie being overseas .... who else was mentioned?

Geeeeeezzzzzzzzzzzzz this is really frustrating ...will persevere though.

deb Smiley
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Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans
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Re: Kiwihalfpints Scavenger Hunt....Everyone Welcome To Join In.
« Reply #42 on: Wednesday 22 April 09 22:36 UTC (UK) »

another thought ....

If Archie and janet did get married how would their naming patterns go ...


would Artchie's eldest son be name Alexander and eldest daughter be Janet? Or is eldest daughter named after mother's mother's name ...arrghhhhhhhhhhhhhh  Grin Grin Cool
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Re: Kiwihalfpints Scavenger Hunt....Everyone Welcome To Join In.
« Reply #43 on: Wednesday 22 April 09 22:48 UTC (UK) »

Hi deb,

10.43 am Thurs here.

Sorry this is so frustrating .... but you guys have excellent talents from what I have seen on other hunts.

The only other person mentioned on the admission form for being overseas was my ggrandfather Daniel who was in Australia for a couple of years before coming here.

As for the naming of the children, I would say after the father.   Looking at my tree, the first daughter has been named Janet then the 2nd one named after the mother i.e. Isabella.    The father if he is named say George, then Alexander has continued being named for the 1st son ..... if that makes sense to you.
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« Reply #44 on: Wednesday 22 April 09 22:55 UTC (UK) »

okay ...so if say Janet married a George then the first son would still be Alexander after her father or after his father .... OMG  Lips Sealed
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