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kneller1980
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Re: Swifts of Wolverhampton dead end?-updated, the plot thickens!
« Reply #60 on: Friday 22 May 09 07:27 UTC (UK) »
i did think that may be a possiability but haven't come across one yet-i'm not able to get to the shropshire archives before it closes for a month for the refurb Sad so i supposed i'll just have to wait and see...

do you think the fact it has : after the first name could indicate it has been shortened? i've never seen that before on any certificates Huh

Thanks for replying Smiley
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Tomlin: Shropshire
Tomline:shropshire
Swift: Shropshire,Staffordshire
Kneller: Wolverhampton,Swindon, Manchester,Germany.
Howes: West Bromwich
Stanton: West Bromwich
Kimberley: Wombourne
Price: Birmingham
Palmer: Birmingham
Mann:Staffordshire.

And whatever else all my digging turns up Smiley
deryckjohn
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Re: Swifts of Wolverhampton dead end?-updated, the plot thickens!
« Reply #61 on: Friday 22 May 09 08:24 UTC (UK) »
Quote from: kneller1980 on Wednesday 20 May 09 15:57 UTC (UK)
Quote from: deryckjohn on Friday 08 May 09 15:42 UTC (UK)
I hate it when that happens, luckily it has not happened that often on my tree:)

I can't see a good candidate for Thomas Price, there is another Thomas Price born Bradley, Bilston that is a good candidate for the Dec 1849 in Wolverhampton.

Have you posted the details from the marriage of Thomas Swift and Ann?

Deryck

just wondered whether you had a go index for this birth? i ordered another one and it wasn't him but not come across this one.
thanks

I think it was this one,     Dec 1849 Wolverhampton  Vol 17 Page 303

Deryck
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kneller1980
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Re: Swifts of Wolverhampton dead end?-updated, the plot thickens!
« Reply #62 on: Friday 22 May 09 08:39 UTC (UK) »
that was the one i got, it's not him Sad his father is listed as John! Cry

chasing my tail now!

Even tho i have now found a Samuel in Pitchford AND his sibling and parents on the Parish registers i obviously need to find if he is Thos (thomas) father...

I don't know where to look on line...

the SAMUEL SWIFT i have found was baptised in PITCHFORD, SHROPS 15 DEC 1799, SON OF JOHN AND SARAH SWIFT.

does anyone know where to look to find him and see if he's linked Huh Huh Huh
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Tomlin: Shropshire
Tomline:shropshire
Swift: Shropshire,Staffordshire
Kneller: Wolverhampton,Swindon, Manchester,Germany.
Howes: West Bromwich
Stanton: West Bromwich
Kimberley: Wombourne
Price: Birmingham
Palmer: Birmingham
Mann:Staffordshire.

And whatever else all my digging turns up Smiley
deryckjohn
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Re: Swifts of Wolverhampton dead end?-updated, the plot thickens!
« Reply #63 on: Friday 22 May 09 08:40 UTC (UK) »
This was the closest to a Thomas Price:

Births Dec 1850   W Bromwich Vol: 18 Page:579

Can't remember if I checked for a death or census entry.

Also, I couldn't find a BMD for Ann Price in Shrewsbury.
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Re: Swifts of Wolverhampton dead end?-updated, the plot thickens!
« Reply #64 on: Friday 22 May 09 09:26 UTC (UK) »
Ann was registered as Swift june qtr 1848 Shrewsbury.
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Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
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deryckjohn
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Re: Swifts of Wolverhampton dead end?-updated, the plot thickens!
« Reply #65 on: Friday 22 May 09 09:56 UTC (UK) »
Quote from: osprey on Friday 22 May 09 09:26 UTC (UK)
Ann was registered as Swift june qtr 1848 Shrewsbury.

If the Prices are a different family there should be an Ann Price born Shrewsbury, I didn't have time to look properly this morning so I may just have missed her.
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kneller1980
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Re: Swifts of Wolverhampton dead end?-updated, the plot thickens!
« Reply #66 on: Friday 22 May 09 10:16 UTC (UK) »
i've not come across an ann price, so i do believe there is a high chance they are the same family-why named price i don't know-i looked at the original census and it's not a transcription error.

I've sent of for Ann Swift birth certificate to see if that enlightens us further.

to confuse things further:

Births Sep 1850: Price  Thomas     Shrewsbury  18 173 (you never know?!)
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Tomlin: Shropshire
Tomline:shropshire
Swift: Shropshire,Staffordshire
Kneller: Wolverhampton,Swindon, Manchester,Germany.
Howes: West Bromwich
Stanton: West Bromwich
Kimberley: Wombourne
Price: Birmingham
Palmer: Birmingham
Mann:Staffordshire.

And whatever else all my digging turns up Smiley
kneller1980
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Re: Swifts of Wolverhampton dead end?-updated, the plot thickens!
« Reply #67 on: Friday 22 May 09 10:17 UTC (UK) »
also on later census, this 'PRICE' family do not exist...ANYWHERE! so very very strange Huh Roll Eyes
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Tomlin: Shropshire
Tomline:shropshire
Swift: Shropshire,Staffordshire
Kneller: Wolverhampton,Swindon, Manchester,Germany.
Howes: West Bromwich
Stanton: West Bromwich
Kimberley: Wombourne
Price: Birmingham
Palmer: Birmingham
Mann:Staffordshire.

And whatever else all my digging turns up Smiley
kneller1980
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Re: Swifts of Wolverhampton dead end?-updated, the plot thickens!
« Reply #68 on: Saturday 23 May 09 13:50 UTC (UK) »
Ann Swifts birth certificate arrived today it states:

Shrewsbury 18th june 1848 st chad district.

Ann girl, born pulley common,meole county Salop, father: Thomas Swift, Mother: Mary Swift late Tomlins, fathers occupation:labourer.

So least we know that Ann is right-there is no birth certificate for an Ann Price with these details ie mother and father, i think i'm just going to order thomas prices birth certificate and get them only to send it if parents listed are correct, can i actually do that?

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Tomlin: Shropshire
Tomline:shropshire
Swift: Shropshire,Staffordshire
Kneller: Wolverhampton,Swindon, Manchester,Germany.
Howes: West Bromwich
Stanton: West Bromwich
Kimberley: Wombourne
Price: Birmingham
Palmer: Birmingham
Mann:Staffordshire.

And whatever else all my digging turns up Smiley
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Re: Swifts of Wolverhampton dead end?-updated, the plot thickens!
« Reply #69 on: Saturday 23 May 09 15:23 UTC (UK) »
yes, you can use the parents' names as a check when you order from the GRO. If the cert doesn't match, you pay £3 instead of £7. Or you could order from the local office and they won't issue or cash your cheque if it's the wrong cert.
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Cornwall: Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Kellett, Tebb
kneller1980
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Re: Swifts of Wolverhampton dead end?-updated, the plot thickens!
« Reply #70 on: Sunday 24 May 09 19:43 UTC (UK) »
so excited, my hubby is taking me over to shrewsbury tomoz, we are doing a tour of shrops...going to take lots of photos and hopefully find out a bit about the swifts...i'll keep you informed-if you are interested Smiley
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Tomlin: Shropshire
Tomline:shropshire
Swift: Shropshire,Staffordshire
Kneller: Wolverhampton,Swindon, Manchester,Germany.
Howes: West Bromwich
Stanton: West Bromwich
Kimberley: Wombourne
Price: Birmingham
Palmer: Birmingham
Mann:Staffordshire.

And whatever else all my digging turns up Smiley
kneller1980
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Re: Swifts of Wolverhampton dead end?-updated, the plot thickens!
« Reply #71 on: Friday 25 September 09 13:09 UTC (UK) »
Still chasing my tail with this one Sad the Samuel swift listed apparently had several children(someone on ancestry is researching this line) but amoungst those is no thomas or thos Sad

so STILL on the hunt...any fresh eyes and help would be very much appreciated Grin
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Tomlin: Shropshire
Tomline:shropshire
Swift: Shropshire,Staffordshire
Kneller: Wolverhampton,Swindon, Manchester,Germany.
Howes: West Bromwich
Stanton: West Bromwich
Kimberley: Wombourne
Price: Birmingham
Palmer: Birmingham
Mann:Staffordshire.

And whatever else all my digging turns up Smiley
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