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Topic: John Boyd b. @ 1831 London, Middlesex (Read 166 times)
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jorose
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"Euston House Clerk" could be "Custom House Clerk"?
When exactly what he married and what other information was given there - where was he living, who were the witnesses etc.
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Valda
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Shannie
Southwark is south of the river Thames and part of Surrey not Middlesex. The actual baptism register entry for this John Boyd's baptism would give you further information about this Richard's occupation.
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jorose
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The IGI on www.familysearch.org is just an index - there will be more details on the actual record. The London Metropolitan Archives probably have the microfilm. The IGI is also not complete so just because there's only one
If you look at the marriage certificate again, there are some extra bits of info that could be helpful:
The actual place of marriage - in which church, or if just an office marriage. (For example, if he is the one on the 1871/1881 census married to a Bridget from Ireland, it would be good to know if they married in a Catholic church).
The address of John and of his wife (sometimes the same in order to avoid having to call banns in two parishes --> twice the cost. Doesn't necessarily mean they were living together).
The names of the witnesses - often family members somehow or other. There should be two of them. Sometimes the names are not easy to read or just initials are given.
You say according to the marriage certificate his birth was circa 1831, but if he is who I think he is then in 1871 and 1881 his age is more around 1834/5 in those records - can you confirm?
If his father was working at the Custom House in London, he may have been born somewhere in the Docklands area (East London). His father could also have worked at Custom House in Liverpool. (Basically, anywhere with a port where shipments from overseas were coming in).
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jorose
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Census ages shouldn't have been rounded down on anything but the 1841, but he may have rolled his age a couple of years back on later records because his wife was younger than he was. If he was also Roman Catholic then there might be an Irish connection on his side of the family also.
As to where he was on earlier censuses - overseas, under a different name, just missed out... lots of possible reasons. That's why it would help to know all the details from the marriage certificate, even if they seem like minor things.
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~hibernia/churches/ant.htm
- information on the church in question.
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Valda
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Are you sure it is not 34 on his marriage?
His afe on the 1871 census is given as 37, on the 1881 census 46 and on the 1891 census 54.
1861 census because of damage to the census page and no occupation filled in, it is impossible to know where this man was born or what his occupation was. I can't see a John Boyd of this age in Lancashire married to a Mary on the 1871 census but he may have moved from Lancashire, or just be difficult to spot. This may or may not be John Boyd born Middlesex.
1861 census RG9 2718 folio 132
11 High Street Everton Liverpool
John Boyd Head Married 23
Mary Boyd Wife Married 23
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jorose
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If he wasn't in Liverpool in 1861, he could be this very mobile fellow:
John Boyd aged 28 b. London, a hatter, wife Jane b. Ashbourne Derbyshire, 27, dau Hannah b. Nottingham, 3, son Henry b. Gateshead, Durham, 9Mo, living in Shelton, Staffordshire (can't spot them in 1871).
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Valda
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I think the hatter is still in Shelton in 1871.
1871 census RG10 2863 folio 95
5 Cambridge Street Shelton Hanley Staffordshire
John Boyd 38 Head Married Hatter Islington London Infirm
Jane Boyd 36 Wife Married Rochdale Lancashire
Ann Boyd 14 Daughter Nottingham
Henry Boyd 10 Son Newcastle upon Tyne
Elizabeth Boyd 8 Daughter Hanley
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