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Topic: James Aitken/Janet Gillon - Larbert 1820's (Read 413 times)
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Siward
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Hi all,
Just wondering if anyone has any information on the family or relations of this specific couple. Trying to work out if there daughter Helen Aitken, born Larbert 1822 is the wife of James Steel of Letham, his wife being born in Larbert around the same time.
Any information that could shed some light on this matter would be most helpful.
Best regards,
Richard
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Armstrong, Bell, Creevy, Fyfe, Gibson, Hunter, Kilpatrick, King, Lawrie, Leitch, Marshall, McArthur, McLae, Mills, Munro, Thomson, Williamson, Wilson - Lanarkshire Davidson, McFarlane - Dumbartonshire Baillie - Armagh Aitken, Connachie, Gillon, Hotchkiss, Philip, Sands, Steel - Stirlingshire Middlemass, Wilson - East Lothian Marshall - Mid Lothian Aitken, Gillon - West Lothian Armstrong, Chalmers, Creevy, Hosie, Kilpatrick, Paterson - Renfrewshire
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MonicaLesl
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Hi Richard
Going by location and dates, certainly looks a strong possibility that Helen was daughter to James and Janet. To get full verification, you would need to look at Helen's death cert (if she died in Scotland) to confirm her parents' names.
This looks like information on the Aitken line on the generation that you are looking at:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~gillon/mom/pafn21.htm
There is also a private member's tree on Ancestry for this line of James Aitken and Janet Gillon, not sure what additional information may be there.
Monica
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire. Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll. Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire. Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan. McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland. Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland. ..........and lots of Spanish name interests........ Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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Siward
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Thanks Monica.
On one of my relations (Margaret Steel) birth cerificate it says here parents James Steel and Helen Aitken were married on the 19th of July 1844 Airth.
But from information extracted from the IGI its says
James and Helen married/banns Larbert 14 July 1844 and banns 7 July 1844 in Airth (IGI,extracted)
So a little confused now 
Best regards,
Richard
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Armstrong, Bell, Creevy, Fyfe, Gibson, Hunter, Kilpatrick, King, Lawrie, Leitch, Marshall, McArthur, McLae, Mills, Munro, Thomson, Williamson, Wilson - Lanarkshire Davidson, McFarlane - Dumbartonshire Baillie - Armagh Aitken, Connachie, Gillon, Hotchkiss, Philip, Sands, Steel - Stirlingshire Middlemass, Wilson - East Lothian Marshall - Mid Lothian Aitken, Gillon - West Lothian Armstrong, Chalmers, Creevy, Hosie, Kilpatrick, Paterson - Renfrewshire
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MonicaLesl
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Hi Richard
They either got their dates wrong on Margaret's birth entry by a few days, or the 7 and 14 July were banns for the marriage and the marriage took place on 19 July. It can be hit or miss on Scotlands People regarding marriage entries in that you don't know whether the entry was for banns or the actual marriage until you look at the image which is a pity.
Their first daughter Helen look to have been born the following month and christened in September that year.
Monica
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire. Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll. Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire. Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan. McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland. Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland. ..........and lots of Spanish name interests........ Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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Siward
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Hi Monica,
Just topped up the credits on Scotlands People a few mins ago and have now found the death certificate for Helen Aitken.
Turns out.... Father - James Aitken (Farmer) and Mother - Janet Gillon
That's tied up a whole lot of information. Even the signature of the informant is that of here son in law, my great great grandfather.
Best regards,
Richard
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Armstrong, Bell, Creevy, Fyfe, Gibson, Hunter, Kilpatrick, King, Lawrie, Leitch, Marshall, McArthur, McLae, Mills, Munro, Thomson, Williamson, Wilson - Lanarkshire Davidson, McFarlane - Dumbartonshire Baillie - Armagh Aitken, Connachie, Gillon, Hotchkiss, Philip, Sands, Steel - Stirlingshire Middlemass, Wilson - East Lothian Marshall - Mid Lothian Aitken, Gillon - West Lothian Armstrong, Chalmers, Creevy, Hosie, Kilpatrick, Paterson - Renfrewshire
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MonicaLesl
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That's great Richard 
Not sure how much you have on Helen's family. If you do a parent search on IGI (let me know if you haven't done this before) you will see a list of Helen and James' children including submitted details for one of their daughter's marriage (Janet I think from memory).
Monica
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire. Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll. Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire. Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan. McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland. Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland. ..........and lots of Spanish name interests........ Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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Siward
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Monica,
The information I have on the Aitken/Gillon family is
Thomas Aitken b: JUL 1816 in Larbert Stirlingshire Robert Aitken b: JUN 1818 in Larbert Stirlingshire James Aitken b: JUL 1820 in Larbert Stirlingshire Helen Aitken b: 31 AUG 1822 in Larbert Stirlingshire John Aitken b: AUG 1824 in Larbert Stirlingshire George Aitken b: JUN 1826 in Larbert Stirlingshire Alexander Aitken b: APR 1828 in Larbert Stirlingshire Edward Aitken b: 21 MAR 1830 in Larbert Stirlingshire Janet Aitken b: 2 OCT 1831 in Larbert Stirlingshire William Aitken b: SEP 1834 in Larbert Stirlingshire James Aitken b: OCT 1836 in Larbert Stirlingshire
And from the 1841 cenus of Larbert is
AITKEN James M 46 Blacksmith AITKEN Janet F 44 AITKEN Thomas M 22 Blacksmith AITKEN Helen F 17 Female Servant AITKEN John M 15 Blacksmith AITKEN George M 13 Blacksmith AITKEN Alexander M 11 AITKEN Janet F 8 AITKEN William M 6 AITKEN James M 4
Looks like being a Blacksmith was popular 
Plenty to go on now, and many thanks again.
Best regards,
Richard
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MonicaLesl
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Hi Richard
You have death cert details for James Aitken and Janet Gillon on that link I posted earlier which will help when moving on to the next generation.
Again from what looks to be the same database is this http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~gillon/mom/pafn20.htm re the Gillon side taking you back to Robert and Helen, Janet's parents
This looks to be the main page with a contact email that might be worthwhile you following up on  http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~gillon/mom/
Monica
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire. Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll. Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire. Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan. McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland. Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland. ..........and lots of Spanish name interests........ Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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MonicaLesl
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Some additional sites on the family lines of Gillon and associated families:
http://hotchkissclan.org/gen/Records/INDIs/II10261.html
And a couple of trees on Ancestry on this lines taking you back to the previous generation.
Richard, plenty on the Gillon side...not so much on the Aitken line that I can see on-line as yet.
Monica
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire. Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll. Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire. Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan. McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland. Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland. ..........and lots of Spanish name interests........ Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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Siward
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Hi Monica,
Thanks once again for the links. Will drop some of the Gillon descendants an email in a few days, once I've got a bit more time and few more peices of information together.
Yes Rex Hotchkiss's website is very good, several of my ancestors on my fathers side there and just found Gillons from my mothers side. Seems on both sides of my family there is a lot of strong connections to Stirlingshire.
Best regards,
Richard
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Armstrong, Bell, Creevy, Fyfe, Gibson, Hunter, Kilpatrick, King, Lawrie, Leitch, Marshall, McArthur, McLae, Mills, Munro, Thomson, Williamson, Wilson - Lanarkshire Davidson, McFarlane - Dumbartonshire Baillie - Armagh Aitken, Connachie, Gillon, Hotchkiss, Philip, Sands, Steel - Stirlingshire Middlemass, Wilson - East Lothian Marshall - Mid Lothian Aitken, Gillon - West Lothian Armstrong, Chalmers, Creevy, Hosie, Kilpatrick, Paterson - Renfrewshire
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