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1901 census look up please. Brennan Clonegal.
« on: Thursday 23 April 09 18:25 UTC (UK) »

Does anyone have access to the 1901 Co Carlow census and could do a look up for me please?
Trying to trace Thomas Brennan and son Thomas Brennan then aged approx 15/16 or so.
I have no other infomation another than the possibility of the place name Clonegal.
Thomas Brennan senior died 1909 and is buried in Clonegal said to be the place of his birth.
Extremely greatful for any help direction.
Regards Jackie.
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Re: 1901 census look up please. Brennan Clonegal.
« Reply #1 on: Friday 24 April 09 09:46 UTC (UK) »

A list of burials for Clonegal cemetery only has one Thomas Brennan recorded and while the records say that no all headstones may be recorded, it's very extensive.
Brennan Thomas, 85, Monaughrin, 25/5/1922

There are also records for other Brennan's named,
Mary, Elizabeth, John, Margaret, Bridget, Winifred, Bridget, James, James.
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Re: 1901 census look up please. Brennan Clonegal.
« Reply #2 on: Friday 24 April 09 11:12 UTC (UK) »

Many thanks for your reply,

At this early stage I really don't have no idea at all if the gravestone of the Thomas Brennan or any of the other Brennan's you mention are connected to my Thomas Brennan.

All I have so far is that the Thomas Brennan I received details of yesterday died 1909 and is buried in Clonegal. As the family appear to have been Roman Catholic, I'm presumming Thomas senior would also have been R.C.

I will most definately keep the information you sent as it may come in useful at a later date.

Once again thank you for taking the time to reply.

Regards Jackie
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Re: 1901 census look up please. Brennan Clonegal.
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 20 October 09 23:23 UTC (UK) »

hi there
i have just taken a look at the baptismal parish records for clonegal, and can find no thomas brennan, there are two brennan familys baptising there children around 1885/6, they are from springfield and ballyredmond. It may have been the case that he was not baptised, or maybe not entered in the register. Also this is a transcription of the register that i am reading, and maybe when it was being transcribed the reader maybe could not decipher it.

The 1911 census shows a 14 year old thomas brennan living in ballyredmond. living with his mother and two siblings(possibly) as a servant of the redmond family.

I hope this is of some help to you.

all the best

pete
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Re: 1901 census look up please. Brennan Clonegal.
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 22 October 09 19:57 UTC (UK) »

Hello,I had a look on County Carlow IGP website,i found baptismal records for the RC parish Clonegal,there is an entry for a Thomas Brennan for the 27thApril 1850,his fathers name is Patrick,and his mothers name is Betty,the address is Abbeydown.Not sure if there is a connection,but i hope it may help.
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Re: 1901 census look up please. Brennan Clonegal.
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 22 October 09 23:10 UTC (UK) »

Hi Noxas
You are right, but the Thomas Brennan that Jackie is looking for would have been born around 1885, so this could be his dad or an uncle or the like?
I will be down there sometime and will have a look in Clonegal and Kildavin Cemeteries if I remember.
All the best
Pete
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Re: 1901 census look up please. Brennan Clonegal.
« Reply #6 on: Monday 26 October 09 17:52 UTC (UK) »

Hello Jackie and Pete I had a good look through the baptismal records again and like you i could find  no Thomas Brennan to fit with the younger Thomas, and the full 1901 census does not come on line until sometime at the end of the year,or possibly in the  coming year,the information is available,but only by visiting the records office in Dublin,or having someone on the ground in Dublin who could undertake the task for you.I will have another look through any other records i can find,will keep you posted.
          With regards Diarmuid.
         
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Re: 1901 census look up please. Brennan Clonegal.
« Reply #7 on: Monday 26 October 09 21:26 UTC (UK) »

hi again
Fortunately, I will be paying a visit to LDS tomorrow, so amongst other things, I shall look up the 1901 census for springfield and ballyredmond. I do hope I find your Brennans.
all the best
pete
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Re: 1901 census look up please. Brennan Clonegal.
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 27 October 09 21:46 UTC (UK) »

hi again
couldn't get springfield, LDS did not appear to have that reel, though springfield is actually in wicklow, but in moyacomb civil parish which is a mixture of carlow and wicklow townlands, from what i saw today.
but here is Brennan, ballyredmond 1901 census

house number 10

patrick brennan     farmer    63  head of family
mary brennan                      60  wife
james brennan                    33  son
john brennan                      31  son
michael brennan                 29  son
mary brennan                     27  daughter
annie  brennan                   25  daughter
katie brennan                     23  daughter
lizzie brennan                     22  daughter

house 11

john brennan         farmer   40  head
margaret brennan               38  wife
michael brennan                  13  son
charles brennan                  10  son
thomas brennan                   8  son
margaret brennan                4  daughter

there is one thomas there, though he was born about 1893, though that is not that far off. considering that from my own experience, looking at my own family history which would be in this catholic parish too, alot of them as adults never really knew accurately how old they were. Usually when i've seen the birth record and seen the gravestone, it is not uncommon for them not to match up.
I hope this has been some help
all the best
pete
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Re: 1901 census look up please. Brennan Clonegal.
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 27 October 09 21:56 UTC (UK) »

just looked up the baptism on rootsweb

1893 Apr 25 Brennan Thomas Johnbrennan and Catherine kelly  Ballyredmond

http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlcar2/Clonegall_1893.htm
All the other children of this family have there mother as catherine according to the transcription on rootsweb.
I know that it says that john brennans wifes name is margaret on the 1901 census, maybe one of two things, first the census ennumerator(the person who took the census details) wrote down margaret by mistake, or secondly, and more interestingly was john married a second time?
I hope this has been of help.
all the best
pete
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Re: 1901 census look up please. Brennan Clonegal.
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 03 November 09 16:24 UTC (UK) »

Hi you guys, many, many thanks for your information, unfortunately I've not been keeping up to date with the site because my young foster child has been seriously ill for most of the year with an unidentified virus, he's now much better and on the road to recovery.
The last month has been hectic getting ready for a visit from my Irish and American side of the family, they've now all left so  I can get down to dealing with my many emails.
I spent months and months researching the Brennan's of Clonegal, because I was sent details that the young Thomas had a travelling show and his father Thomas had been a land steward, it all seemed to fit, so spent a small fortune getting births, marriage and death certs only to discover that it's probably not my Brennan's.
The certs show that the Thomas I thought was Thomas the land steward was in fact a farm labourer and couldn't read or write and he died 1905 whereas on my Thomas's wedding cert 1907 Co Cavan his father is not listed as deceased...but it hasn't been to no avail, the old boy who was giving me the info (grandson of Thomas the father was thrilled with the BMD certs infomation and I also had the Carlow Webmaster put the certs on the site just in case any other researcher needs the info.
I will also mail details to the Carlow website of all the info you have put on the site, I'm sure that they will be thrilled.
In the meantime my Thomas Brennan's remain a mystery.
Thank once again.
Kindest regards Jackie
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Re: 1901 census look up please. Brennan Clonegal.
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 03 November 09 23:06 UTC (UK) »

hi again, thanks fort getting back to me.
if i can be of any further assistance, please ask, as i would like to see if you can sort out you thomas brennan.
I am in dublin, and can look up alot of this stuff, most of which would be free, so why not?
all the best
pete
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