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Topic: St. Josephs Cemetery,The Rock, Ballyshannon. (Read 1560 times)
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Summerhill
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He There,
Can any one tellme if there are any graveyard transcriptions for the above cemetery. I know that it is in Magh Ene Parish and that Finner Graveyard in Bundoran its sister parish has been transcribed. I am trying to obtain burial records for my Great Grand parents James Mc Gowan and Brigid Mc Guinness from Westport Ballyshannon. They Married at St. Josephs The Rock Church in 1899. I have written to the parish priest Oct.2008 and have never received any reply
I would appreciate any help in this regard
Summerhill.
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malchie1
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hi summerhill i live in ballyshannon know the priest will try and find out as much as i can for you what month and date did they marry and did they continue to live in Ballyshannon will look up cenus for Balyyshannon. give me a couple of days and i will see what i can do
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Summerhill
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Hi Malachie,
Thanks for replying. My Grandmother Elizabeth MC Gowan was born on the 31st march 1905 at 13 Westport ,Ballyshannon. Her Fathers Name was JamesMc Gowan and Bridget Mc Gowan (Nee Mc Ginney/McGuinness) the entry in the bmd register is not very clear. James Was a plumber.
On the 7th April,1926 Elizabeth Married James Campbell in st.Josephs Church, The Rock,Ballyshannon. James was a Garda Sergeant in Ballyshannon.
Elizabeth's mother Bridget died around the time of her Holy communion, she would have been around 7or 8 yrs old.
What I am trying to find out if they are buried in St. Joseph sCemetery Bally shannon and also the Baptismal record for Bridget and for my ggrandfather James McGowan. My husband & I hope tovisit Ballyshannon later this year and we would like to visit their grave & pay our respects. I wrote to Fr. Mumster last october and I have not received a reply. I have never been to Ballyshannon, buthave seen it on the net
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malchie1
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hi summerhill will check that out for you and will ask a few i know who would know the family. Ihave ask already and when have all in hab=nd will let you know as I say give me a couple of days FRmunster isnt there any more he is in Bundoran it is FR F MC Manus that is there now but it should not be hard to check out i will check grave yard to morrow for you be in touch in few days
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Summerhill
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Thanks a million Malachie, that would be lovely. It would be lovely to find their grave including those of the Mc Ginney/McGuinness family too. Ballyshannon looks a lovely town. Unfortunately my grandmother died when I was ayear old. So i only knew my grandad but i did n't see him veryoften. He died 25 years ago.
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malchie1
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found Jamesw mc Gowans grave yesterday but only his name on it so am i finding out tomorrw if that is diffinatelys his grave sorry to day in bad stat if it is his will send u pic of it . There are stacks of MC Guiness es still living in west port Ballyshannon so you coukld be related.Did James campbeel come from Ballyshannon? will fill u in later
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Summerhill
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Thanks a million again malachy you are very kind. If it is Great Grandfather James MC Gowans Grave can you send me a picture? James campbell Came from Derry City. He joined the Garda Siochana in 1923 and was stationed in Ballyshannon when he married granny Elizabeth . They probably movedon from there shortly after.He was stationed in Monaghan, Athlone,Oulart,Co. wexford, Kilmore quay Co. Wexford and finally Wexford town.
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malchie1
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great will have more info oom Momday evening the inscription on grave is no date or his wife is not mention so i am waitng to find out if that id his grave but will let you know it funny number 13 westport is still in habited by the MC Guiness and they were plumbers some still are
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Summerhill
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Hiya Malachie. Thanks for the reply. Now I received James &Bridget Mc Gowans Marriage Cert. from Donegal Ancestry yesterday.
Date of Marriage; 29th June,1899.
Church: St. Marys Catholic Church .Bundoran Co. Donegal.
Groom: James Mc Gowan , Full Age, Ballyshannon.Fathers Name: William Mc Gowan-Labourer.
Bride: Bridget mcGuinness Ballyshannon. Fathers Name: John Mc Guinness- Labourer.
Witnesses: William McGuinness, & Annie Ginn.
Priest: Rev.William Doherty C.C.
As you can see in that marriage cert she is Bridget McGuinness but in my Granny Elizabeths Birth Cert her maiden name is Mc Ginney.
Now I do know that a parish register would have contained more information regarding addresses. As I still dont know where exactly in Ballyshannon Bridget came from so I am still in the dark.
Donegal ancestry also sent me the 1901 census and on that were James &Bridget &their Daughter Mary kate Born 1900
They also sent me the 1911 census on that are:
James & Bridget, Granny Elizabeth (Aged 6).
Margaret (Maggie) aged 2.
Sadly Maggie died in 1912 and they had 2 sons named John born 1908 & 1910 who also died in infancy. Donegal ancestry confirmed this for me. So my Granny was the only surviving child. And as Bridget died around the time my granny made her communion. You mentioned in your last post having found James Mc Gowans grave , but his is the only name on the headstone and it is in a bad state. I think that Bridget & her infant children may have buried with her own people the Mc Guinnesses. (THis happened with my Maternal Grandmother who is buried with her people in Ardcavan Cemetery wexford.
But her husband is buried in Castlebridge 5 miles away. The reason being the parish opened a new cemetery in castlebridge. My maternal grandmother died in 1932 while my grandfather died 30 years later in 1963 but by this time Ardcavan cemetery had fallen into dis use.) So probably by the time James died he had no family left but my granny who was living far awayand there are no living relations left to maintain it. it is quite possible that it is his grave.
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rathmore
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Hi, My grandad was Eddie McGuinness (McGuiney) married Maggie Madden from Bundoran in 1905 ran off to glasgow then came back to Ireland in about 1910, move between townlands Carrickboy and Higginstown, Maggie was from townland Rathmore in Bundoran they were flax seed growers for the linen industry. I think St. Josephs over the years has been trying to sort out the cemetery, I know my Gran and Grandad are buried there have you look on the Ballyshannon site McGuinness listed in the phone book - address:- www.geocities.com/johngall_99/oldphoto1C.html
owing to the fact a lot of people are trying to find out were they come from all around Ireland Father Munster and Co will not have time to sort every one out. McGongle, McGowan, McGloin, Madden, Doherty and possible many more are my relatives. I was born in Ballyshannon in XXXX but never been back.
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rathmore
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Hi,
Have a look at http://genforum.genealogy.com/mcguinness/messages/194.thml
in 1911 Census my Gran and Co were McGuiney by the time the 1939/40 Census they were McGuinness I guess it depends if the powers that be can read your writing. Or maybe it was easier for them all to be come McGuinness.
Looks like McGuinness lived at West Port. If you are writing to the Church did you send enough funds to cover cost of printing and postage. Have you written to the Garda.
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Summerhill
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Hi Rathmore,
Thanksfor your replies, Yes I did enclose a cheque for £25 when I wrote to Fr.Munster. But I have never received a reply. Idid ring the Garda in ballyshannon about it too. But noluck as yet. It probably did go astray in the post. As you can see from my earlier posts I hope to visit BLLYSHANNON THIS SUMMER and would like to find my great grandparents grave to pay my respects. But I will definately consult that census link you gave me.
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rathmore
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Thank you for your reply, you might not be getting anywhere because you are looking for McGuinness, I sent photos of my family to the Ballyshannon site, the Ballyshannon site said they did not know my family, I have since worked out that other people are going to Ireland as my family. I blame Ballyshannon and County Donegal and relatives who were involved in this for doing this to my family and for not telling my late mum Meg McGuinness (McGuinness was her maiden name) that other people are going to Ireland as us. If I can help you in any way I will. Meg and her brothers moved to the new houses that were built on St. Mary's Terrace, Ballyshannon in the late 1940's, my sister and I were born in Ballyshannon.
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Summerhill
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Hi rathmore, I have sent you a personal message.
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rathmore
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Hi,
Thank you for your message, it has something do done with land that was left to a cousin McGuinness who aunt was a Kennan cannot remember the man she married a man who had money and land, and when she died sometime before 1980. The land is in Ireland, when they could not find the right cousin someone came forward and claimed the land the people involved in this are going to Ireland as my family. I am from Lancashire. Noel Farrell writes books about ballyshannon and other counties. Ballyshannon used to come under the Province of Ulster some record will be held under PRONI have a look at site www.moyvane.com photo under memories photo of men at a retreat men named as connell or oconnell I think they are McGuinness. On the Ballyshannon site photo of McGuinness playing football, look under OLD PHOTOS. I worked out who took the land then wrote to the land registry in Letterkenney the about 2week later I had a phone call from Letterkenny I knew straight away it was not Letterkenney ringing me. who every is involved took my letter.
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