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wolly
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« on: Sunday 07 June 09 07:04 UTC (UK) »
looking for imformation on Jane Shipman born sculcoates yorkshire in 1813,   think she married someone, with surname of thompson before 1841
may have ended in Divorce or Death of spouse    wolly
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Re: marriage
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 07 June 09 07:40 UTC (UK) »
Is ther some Nottinghamshire connection?
Where was she and with whom in 1841? (Give transcript & reference)

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« Reply #2 on: Sunday 07 June 09 07:52 UTC (UK) »
   Jane shipman married a william parkin moon in 1847 but before that he married  a Jane Thompson in 1841 who we think was also Jane NEE Shipman, just trying to verify if Jane thompson & Jane shipman are the one & same person,  there is also a child born in 1834/5,  as Jane was born in Sculcoates yorkshire thought she may have married someone of the name of Thompson first,
its all a big mystery which we hope to solve one day
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« Reply #3 on: Sunday 07 June 09 08:04 UTC (UK) »
OK,
We'd still like  to have the census info..

What information is held on the 1841 and 1847 marr. certs with respect to ages, fathers, occupation, location and witnesses.

What's the name of this 1834 child? What's their given birthplace in the 1851 census?

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« Reply #4 on: Sunday 07 June 09 08:32 UTC (UK) »
the imfo we have is that the marriage date for Jane Thompson amd william Parkin is 2/ aug/1841, seems her father Robert Shipman is the same as our Jane Shipman , a labourer
william married Jane shipman in 1847, on the marriage cert it states Jane as being a spinster
details of the 1847 marriage they were married at Parish of st george the Martyr mdx oct 25 1847,  williams address given as 14 eagle st , father thomas moon a carpenter
Jane 6, gt Ormond  yard father a labourer
witnesses John Chambers & Mary  connor
the mystery child name is given as william  robert Shipman xtn 14 jan 1835 Sculcoates Yorkshire, mother Jane,
afraid thats all I really know    thanks wolly
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« Reply #5 on: Sunday 07 June 09 09:36 UTC (UK) »
It's actually quite difficult to follow your info in the way you have presented it.

1841 census: You don't give the refs or transcript.
                      What sign is there of the husband-to-be?

1841 Marriage (August); you don't say where it was. NO witness info given here.
William Parkin (No age, no occupation, no status, no address, no father or father's occupation)
Married
Jane Thomson, no age, no status, father Robert Shipman a labourer.

1847 Marriage Oct 1847. London. Witness John Chambers & Mary Connor

William (Parkin Moon?) no age, no occupation of 14 Eagle st Father Thomas Moon, Carpenter.
Jane (Shipman) No age, Spinster of 6, Gt Ormond Yd, Father Robert Shipman a labourer.

No 1851 census given...

Back to this 1835 child. Looking at the parish record of baptism, what address is given, is the shipman family anywhere by/around there in 1841?

Is there any baptism for Jane, daughter of Robert 1813 or later?
does robert Shipman baptise any other kids in the area?

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« Reply #6 on: Sunday 07 June 09 11:03 UTC (UK) »
the husband William Parkin Moon b:3/12/1911 in the parish of Bloomsbury  middlesex         (paper bag Maker)   
        m  2/8 /1841 Old church St Pancras lon eng    abt 30yrs & 29yrs     
wife (1)Jane Thompson ( maybe nee  shipman)  resided looks like Rove Alley, st andrews holborn mdx london 
             m oct 25th 1847 p0arish of george the Martyr in the county of mdx lon
wife (2)   Jane Shipman christened 11/6/1813, Sculcoates yorkshire
            says both of full age
parents Robert Shipman & Margaret Shipman of Mason st  Sculcoates yorkshire
   
william was living at 14 Eagle st Camden lon Eng    and occ Printer
Jane at 6, Great Ormand yard Bloomsbury

Jane later died in 1847/8 Wiliam remarried Sophia ann darvell in 1851
hope you can understand this one I cant tell you anymore if I knew I wouldnt have to ask   thanks wolly
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« Reply #7 on: Sunday 07 June 09 11:06 UTC (UK) »
If the 1841 and 1847 marriages are in London, why is the post in Nottinghamshire?

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Re: marriage
« Reply #8 on: Monday 08 June 09 00:47 UTC (UK) »
because I thought m aybe she had a first marriage in nottingham    please DONT bother answering
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